Toddy

Thought I would throw this into the Hive for discussion,

It's kinda been on my mind for some while, however, I have no technical background on this.

I've used most basses and gear over the years, but always seem to return to a late 90s Warwick std, these are excellent but were known for having a MEC pickup with low power output, this never bothered me, as a decent amp and FOH support were always available 

to me this bass just seems a "Magic Wand" and is more musical, than anything else I've used

Ive also recently read that Carole Kaye never had her volume pot on full as cranking it back a touch "sounded better"

I even thought I could be that less power = more compression, although thats probably drivel, but its a more balanced musical sound than my other gear, Ive owned high output Fender and Ibanez amongst others.

SO, is there a case for low power pickups?  vintage stuff still seems highly desirable, or am I talking bollox again lol

Like to know thoughts

J

Massive love for SWR Stuff,   recently bought a workingpro 12 combo, immaculate and with a custom cover for £140, its already done 30 or so gigs on theatre stages, perfectly loud enough for me to hear it (obv needs pa support) and love the damn thing, great sound, looks great, I'm chuffed to bits with it,  

If you assign them left and right, via some free software, rather than pan them, it will sort the bleed , enjoy

 I know, there isn't one, but having seen the success of the Coventry Music Museum recently, Occurred to me it would be a great hands on idea,  

Appreciate we have virus issues etc, but in principle, a home for all the prototypes, even famous basses, amps, stories, players, even a meeting place for product launces (The National Motorcycle Museum is brilliant for that kind of stuff as an example ) meet ups and talks, Just a dream,  but any thoughts?? 

UK Gigs as normal for now, Guessing Belfast next week is now off (Ulster Halls), expecting the update today,  

interesting topic, Its a tough call if your in that position, I walked off  Scunthorpe Steelworks one day and just never went back, financial suicide, luckily as I was now available, doors opened, its a brave decision tho 

Hey all, I’m clearly not in a good place at the min, can I apologise,  if caused any upset or offence I’m genuinely sorry, best wishes and regards to all of you 

private messages, lets bury this thread,,,that's why the pros avoid this forum,,bloody shame, as the bass community deserve better,,good luck with your  gig at the dog and duck,, 

instantly edited btw (not by me),, my words were stronger

On 04/02/2020 at 13:48, Beedster said:

BC at its classic best

BC at its classic worst,, oh I've been there and done that  righteous cow poop,,  you not me...

13 minutes ago, Bluewine said:

I'm a product of the 60s & 70s. I wish my band could afford IEMs and I wish I could sell my band mates ( all half my age ) on the value of what IEMs could bring to the band.

Blue

love your input, but feck..were supposed to impress the audience , not ourselves

16 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

Are you saying that if you had a class D amp all that time, noone would have danced or had a good time?

basically yes,,,do you dance?

Just now, roonjuice said:

 

no offence meant or taken, its all about the bass,,complete respect  

Just now, peteb said:

I thought that the whole point of this thread was that it was 'bothering' you... 

fair comment,, im out , lol,, love to all xxx

1 minute ago, peteb said:

I haven't got a later LM3, but based on the difference in volume between my Italian 500w rated LM3 and the 800w Mesa D800 (spoiler, the Markbass is MUCH louder and generally has more umph), I'm guessing that there would be. Bear in mind that I actually liked the basic tone of the D800, it just wasn't loud enough and didn't cut through. 

I genuinely don't fecking care..its all about the sound, its either right or not,,

7 minutes ago, roonjuice said:

And a fully decent engineer will take your di signal pre and post amp, an blend with a mic’ ed cabinet and use that :0)

er,,nope,, they wont,,what planet are you on?

58 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

 

 its all a load of nonsense anyway, any half decent engineer will DI you, your on stage sound is vanity

please note, I'm not trying to pick an argument, but I've a lot of experience, and my ears arnt painted on, 

9 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

You're very welcome. And if you're someone who can do that effortlessly then I, for one, ain't gonna be picking an argument with you any time soon. Lol.

Long live Trace Elliot.

its cool, loading nexo alfa and a piano down a pier or venue every week,,just stick it on wheels,,jobs easy lol

48 minutes ago, karlfer said:

Sorry Toddy but that cab seems a bit Chubby to me 😐

 daft lad , lo  I play guitar on that gig now,,please don't hate me,,,

7 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

How's your back doing? 😉

I load in and out of theatres, 3 times a week,   its fine, nice of you to ask lol

2 hours ago, Phil Starr said:

I love that this was edited by one of the mods

As a flag waving, T-shirt wearing techy I'll bite. Mic that rig up and pump it through a really good Class D, Neo speakered, festival sized PA rig and it'd sound just as good. So it isn't class D or lightweight neo speakers, it is something else.

I'll tell you my theory, in the olden days speakers and amps were designed to enhance your bass sound (guitar sound even more so but this is Basschat) They didn't need to be clean and undistorted they just had to sound good. People built cabs and tried them out with bass and the ones that sounded best or most popular got made and sold. Theory wasn't really worked out until the 70's and didn't get through to instrument amp design until much later. The truth is we don't much like uncoloured sound for bass and most of us aren't very good at finding the eq to achieve it so a nice old Trace that gives us the Trace sound sounds better to us than our own attempts to recreate it. 

The second thing is that we like things that are loud, too loud to be sensible but there is joy in just cranking up an old monolith of a speaker with an amp with the frequency response curve of the Cairngorms. Sensibly we'd scrap the backline, use in-ears or at least floor monitors and let the PA do it's job but for some that's no fun. 

There's also a lot of self delusion, I used to have fun in my old rear wheel drive cars with cross ply tyres sliding round bends double declutching because the synchromesh was rubbish but I can't really pretend those cars were 'better' than those I drive now. 

One day soon the computer modelling will be so good we won't be able to tell the difference but that is still a little way away. Until then if you love an old Peavey stack and don't mind shifting it then the important thing isn't technical perfection so go for it and enjoy.  

so after 20 yrs of making people dance and have a goo d time, im still convinced, this is a load of bollox, 

14 minutes ago, gjones said:

I have a GK MB500 and a GKMB800 (I like them a lot) but they can't do what that Trace GP7, I played through, could do.

fecking awful. 

Hey all, expect to get a bit of stick for this but hey ho, its bothering me

So 20 yrs as a Bass Player, I've been very  lucky and successful, most ambitions achieved, (played every major venue in the UK)and open minded too modern ideas etc, had to play a successful event last night (*sold out last November) and in rehearsal my modern ish Bass amp packed in  ,,quick ring round, and the  drummers  brother came to the rescue with a large 80s Peavey tank and an Amp peg  cab OMFG, The frequency's were amazing, used a couple of  basses,  the active cut through  , the passive was great    I loved it, the engineer loved it, the audience went mad, and even a world class engineer in the audience gave praise, annoyingly this rig has stood unused for 20 yrs,  it was far better than any of the rigs I've owned since my Trace Elliot days in the early 90s, I have do desire to be a dinosaur, and no disrespect to the modern light stuff, but cannot these amazing sounds be reproduced, yes I've done the massive 8x10 stuff at festivals,  but to get a punch like that in a venue was phenomenal, are we on the right track ?

Hey All,

I've a Ashdown combo that used in anger last night the output dropped to almost zero,,worked when I kicked it, but then repeatedly has this massive volume drop issue all evening, is this a familiar and quick fix?,,Ive only one more gig to do later this week, before it retires anyway,,might have to hire in,,any thoughts?