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The grille is just velcroed in to place. Mine is buried in a lockup but I'm pretty sure the piping is stapled to the frame around the sides. 

Pop the staples out of the piping, rewrap with new grille cloth, staple piping back on and you have a nicely matched cab!

10 hours ago, greavesbass said:

So Glastonbury is just one big Karaoke event. You could not make it up. Be cheaper and easier to have holograms of ur favourite bands, save a whole lot of hassle and money ...Oh sorry its marketed as a "live music event", silly me.

There's tons of bands making use of tracks, for sure, but that doesn't make it karaoke. 

I'm sure artists would love to have a massive band line up on stage recreating all the parts they'd like to squeeze in, but it's not financially or logistically practical for the vast majority. 

Even for bands touring reasonably sized venues, every player you add to the show adds a cost in wages, catering, travel, accommodation, rehearsal time, equipment etc. You add a few extras players and you need to start increasing the crew size to manage it. You go past the amount of people you can fit on a sleeper bus and you have to add an additional bus and driver to move your touring party around, with all the cost and logistical issues that entails. 

For smaller bands touring in vans, you can fit 9 people including driver in a typical tour van (any vehicle carrying more than that requires a CPC trained driver and a tachograph to log drivers hours, so isn't commonly used in small scale touring). If you can squeeze extra players in, you still have all the other additional costs attached, and given that the vast majority of tour vans are usually already running over the legal weight limit when packed with backline and a few bodies, accomodating extra players and their kit safely and legally isn't really practical. 

Operating costs on tour are higher than than ever at the moment and budgets are being squeezed. When you see that side of it, you can see why it's more practical for bands to add additional elements on playback than it is to add another couple of musicians to the lineup. 

The majority of bands that use click tracks and playback are using it for parts that enhance the overall impact of the show, but are still a fully functioning musical unit playing live together. Some modern genres of music are more dependent on electronic elements that don't all lend themselves to being recreated through live performance too. 

Running a click track also means that lighting rigs and other visual elements like video content can be locked in sync to the performance, adding to the overall experience that's created for the audience. Some artists I work with are using click tracks live purely to lock in with timecoded visuals and don't have any playback element to the show at all. 

Expectations for production standards on live shows have risen considerably over the last couple of decades, so artists and their teams are just making the most of the technology available to create a memorable experience for the audience. The majority of the crowd at most shows aren't musicians, they're there to see and hear a show and be entertained. A drummer having a click in their ear, and a couple of layers of backing vocals and keyboards being dropped in on playback doesn't invalidate the performance that's happening and the experience that the audience are enjoying. 

There's definitely viable careers to be had, and while you're young and have no significant financial commitments or dependents is the best time to have a proper crack at it. 

I came the long way round, and after dabbling in the industry when younger, I left a "sensible" job of 7 years at the age of 28 to come back to working in the music industry. 

Its a lot of hustling and you have to have a bit of a "portfolio career" and be open to doing different things. 

I started out with a mix of function band playing, sound engineering and driving vans for bands. Got busy enough with both that one had to give, so I stepped back from playing and shifted to the production side fully, and I now predominantly work as a tour manager, production manager and monitor engineer (with occasional bits of stage management, backline teching and FOH).

Whatever you're doing, it takes a few years to build a network and professional reputation but there's work out there for the taking. I'm typing this from a dressing room at Reading Festival now, waiting around to look after a headliner on one of the stages here, and I'm just a blagger from Liverpool who got lucky, so if she's actually talented, the world is her oyster 😉

On 24/06/2023 at 17:19, leroydiamond said:

I guess I come from an era when backing tracks were never an option. Live meant live, end of but times have changed obviously. I wonder would PT have opted for the same option if Gavin Harrison was unable to perform.

What era do you come from? They've been an option since the 80s at least. 

Been at the mercy of festival house consoles for the last few weekends. Lots of the larger frame dLives, which was nice. Hadn't spent a ton of time with them in monitor world, I'd mainly used them at FOH, but I'm seriously considering making the jump from Digico for my next couple of tours. 

On 12/07/2023 at 20:43, Chienmortbb said:

You are making me miss my old Ramsa DA7. I sold it when some years ago, but now wish I had it back.

 

 

Don't see those very often at all! Panasonic/Ramsa have all but vanished from the pro audio world outside of Japan. Heard the DA7 was a cracking console for its time though.

IEMs are great (when well set up) but Bluetooth is completely inadequate for them. The latency is way beyond anything vaguely acceptable for monitoring live performance. 

If you could do it with cheap Bluetooth buds, everyone would be doing it instead of spending hundreds on proper radio systems. 

I made a living predominantly from playing for a few years, but supplemented it with bits of sound engineering, driving bands about on tour, that sort of thing. 

All the full timers I know are doing a mix of functions, more frequent but lower paid bar gigs, bits of teaching or studio work, and various bits to fill in the gaps. 

I went the other way, hung up the bass (from a professional standpoint - I still play for pleasure) and threw myself in to the backstage side of it, and I'm now fairly busy all year round straddling multiple roles in live production on fairly decent sized shows - tour management, production management, sound engineering and backline teching. 

There's decent living to be made from music, but it's hard graft, you've got to build a good network of people and a reputation for being decent at your job and pleasant to work with, and be good at sniffing out opportunities to do things. 

It's also very tough on family life and if you've got a family, requires huge compromise and sacrifice from yourself and and your partner to make it work. 

It's not for everyone, but it's out there if you really want it. 

On 21/06/2023 at 10:39, andydye said:

has anyone jumped from enki to scott dixon or vice versa?

 

any comments on pros - cons for either?

 

both are spendy, scott dixon have much easier access for stage use...

Scott Dixon's do, over time, take a beating and the lids start to get a little out of shape and become a faff to put back on.  That said, I've never seen a guitar come out of one damaged, and I work as a tech with multiple artists who use them and they've all earned their dents and bumps on huge numbers of flights and truck rides. 

Toured with an artist who had their basses in an Enki last year and was very impressed, it's a great case and a snug fit, and we flew it around Europe for a busy summer of festivals with no issues.  Haven't seen one that's been in use for as long as some of the Scott Dixons I see though, so can't speak for the longevity in the same way.  

On 14/06/2023 at 18:47, bassbiscuits said:

Bravo - it’ll be your last chance to see him. And well done on playing at Glasto too! What’s the band?

Thanks! Won't be slinging a bass there, I'm afraid. I'm there as a production manager with an artist. Hoping for a slightly more relaxed visit than last year when I did six shows over three days, doing three different job roles 🤣

On 12/06/2023 at 15:19, bassbiscuits said:

Went to see Elton John's "Farewell Yellow Brick Road" tour at Birmingham NIA (now called Utilita Arena) on Sunday night.

 

He seems like a very cool old granddad now, rather than the strident, bullish rockstar diva I'd half expected - more an impish, delighted old man enjoying the fun of celebrating a look back his life and music one more time. He can still play the b*llocks of his piano though, and his band were great.

 

Loved how he came on for the encore in his dressing gown, and then got whisked off by a sort of stairlift which took him up and away into a little trapdoor high in the backdrop, from where he waved us farewell. Quite poignant and really glad I went.

I'm staying on an extra day after the show I'm doing at Glasto and hoping to catch him there. They've (very inconsiderately) scheduled Queens Of The Stone Age to clash with him, but they'll be back again, and he won't, so I think I'll be sticking around for Reg. 

1 hour ago, JPJ said:

So last nights gig had in-house PA & engineer (a treat for me as I’m the one tasked with running sound in both my bands). The venue was using the Soundcraft Ui16 and the engineer was suffering WiFi dropouts all night which he said he experienced a lot when bands use wireless gear (I was using a Line6 G30 and one guitarist was using a Lekato wireless). I checked and he was using the built-in WiFi so I guess the in-built WiFi problems are not limited to Behringer? 

You'd be correct.  The Ui16 is particularly dreadful.  A company I used to freelance for had one that they'd send out on small corporate events when it was just a couple of mics and some playback, and I had such horrendous, show stopping issues with the control interface seizing up (even with a wired network connection to my laptop, sometimes) that I stopped taking it on shows at all.  I wouldn't trust the built in WiFi on any mixer from any brand in a show critical situation. 

And on the Yamaha front, I had the great displeasure of a very tired PM5D as a festival monitor console that I had to throw and go on the other week. Had an absolute stinker of a gig for various reasons, but that old dinosaur definitely didn't help 🤣

On 31/05/2023 at 23:12, VTypeV4 said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Various snaps across the UK from 'The Crossing' tour featuring legends Spear of Destiny and Big Country. I was only in for Spear but next time we do this, I'll be on duty for both bands. Some very cool places up and down the country despite the seemingly endless weeks!

Lots of the usual Midas Pro 1/2, A&H SQ / dLive and Soundcraft Vi consoles this time. Special mention of course to that killer Heritage 3000 - I rather suspect that'll be the last one I'll use 'in the wild' - it was great fun. On the Yamaha front, no 02Rs although I used a few Yamaha M7s, a CL1 and even used my own DM1000 on one of the shows..

Looks like a good run! Every time I get behind a Midas Pro and hear how bloody great they sound, I (almost) forgive them for the bloody trackball and the patching screen 🤣

Spent today prepping an SD12 package for a couple of weeks touring with Circa Waves. Had to do some chicanery to make it work, but have squeezed my SD Rack, the FOH dLive rack, split/patch and all the IEM in to a double wide, so it'll be a nice easy build each day! We're in production rehearsals tomorrow so I'll try and snap a couple of pictures. 

Haven't had many chances for desk photos for a while, been pretty solidly in tour manager/production manager mode and doing less audio, although I did just have my SQ5 out for a few weeks round the UK with Bad Boy Chiller Crew. Even more compact package with my stage rack, splits, power distro, RF and battery chargers all tucked in to a little 12u. 

Got a lovely unsealed maple neck on my '04 Stingray. It's got a mildly grimy vibe to it that it's had for many, many years. Don't think it's going to go away any time soon, I'd just embrace it if I were you!

Stereo DI boxes are just two mono DIs in a single enclosure so you shouldn't have any issues caused by the DI itself. Any phase differences incurred by the blending of your two signals as discussed above would be the same whether you used two individual DIs or one stereo. 

The general rule of thumb is tone and then time - so your chorus, being a time-based effect, is probably best at the end. 

Effects that depend on pitch tracking tend to work best with a clean and consistent signal, so on that basis I'd try the synth right at the front. 

The preamp is simulating the front end of an amp, so I'd start with having that after the drive. 

Tuner > Synth > OD > Preamp > Chorus would be how I'd start, but it's always fun to move things around and see how different pedals interact with one another. 

This film was a gateway drug for me and plays a big part in my love of this sort of music. Have played a bunch of the songs with a soul band I used to be in. Great lines, great grooves. 

A drummer friend of mine plays in a touring Blues Brothers show and has an absolute ball doing it. 

As a live sound guy and a bassist, I'd absolutely prefer that to be two lines. 

As others have said, both sources will have a different sonic character and need treating differently in the mix. 

As for DI boxes, my go-to recommendation is always Orchid Electronics. Small UK based company, hand assembled kit for a very, very good price. Old school website, you have to actually email to place an order, but you're dealing directly with the guy who's building the kit!

http://orchid-electronics.co.uk

For my sins, I've never owned a really good Precision, so the nicest P I could get my hands on, black/black/maple, job done. 

3 hours ago, mrtcat said:

I literally couldn't think of anything worse than going back to the old days without in ear monitors. I hear everything I want, I don't lug an amp, I don't ever get home with my ears ringing and I just feel so much more in touch with the drummer. 

 

Some gigs everything is mic'd up. Others we just have an overhead and kick mic on the kit but guitars / bass / keys are always DI'd and it always sounds killer in my head. 

 

I have a pair of UE6s and a pair of KZ10s but my UE6s are now completely unusable because it seems my ear shape has changed a bit and now they just sound muffled and distorted. The KZ10s are great as long as you can keep stage noise down.

Usual advice is that you need fresh moulds every 4-5 years, as your ear shape continues to change over time. 

Band I've done a lot of work with this year had two basses in an Enki double and it's been rock solid. 

Much prefer them to the Scott Dixon's. I've yet to see a well-toured one that isn't bashed in and struggling to fit together. 

On 10/12/2022 at 04:05, gjones said:

What about violin/fiddle players?

 

Bassists embraced frets in the 50s. It takes the first 5 years, after taking up the instrument,  to figure out how to play a violin/fiddle in tune. If they came with frets as standard people would be knocking out symphonies in no time.

 

I'm currently touring with this show. All of the string players playing custom electric instruments through guitar effects pedals. 

Hearing our lead violin flawlessly knock out the solos to Killing In The Name, Sweet Child Of Mine and Master Of Puppets is quite something!

Played a wedding gig with a hideous case of Norovirus once.

Wouldn't recommend it!

On 08/11/2022 at 10:15, Al Krow said:

What proportion of pro bands are using IEM set ups these days?

 

Was at a Level 42 concert on Friday and thet were using an "old fashioned" stage monitor set up, so it got me thinking about this question. 

Monitor engineer here. I mix very few shows that are fully on wedges these days. Did a first show with a new client the other week who were on wedges and genuinely had a "how long is it since I've done this?" moment!

Of my regular touring clients, there's a handful where one or two members still use a wedge, but it's becoming the exception. It gives the FOH engineer more control as they're not fighting tons of stage noise, protects the ears of the artist from damage, means I can give them studio levels of clarity and separation in the mix (if that's what they want) and is a much more consistent experience from venue to venue than wedges will ever be.