Hi Steve,ah you'd already seen it,no worries. I have no personal experience with these but remember hearing that the price difference between them wasn't entirely justified. Hopefully someone who knows more can chime in. It's interesting how Andertons rate the condition of their used basses. I'm in London so able to pop in quite easily and I tried the AFR5 in person which was rated a 3/5 and I couldn't really see a mark anywhere on it. My only hesitation is whether or not it's "my" sound. Good luck with the search. At least they're popping up somewhat.