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I asked Modern Vintage about the 70's P neck and they said...

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The neck profile is essentially modeled after what people refer to as the ‘B’ neck of the ‘70s. It feels a bit more round, and while not much deeper, the narrower nut/taper combined with the rounded shoulders, feel like a bit more girth, but very fast and easy to play.

I bought a beautiful Modern Vintage MVP4-62 from our own @Sibob last year in gorgeous shell pink!  It's basically a remade 62 precision.  I found the build quality to be exceptional, and it sounded fantastic.  Unfortunately, the neck was of the wide but shallow variety, and I started to find that it cramped my hand if I played for too long, so traded it in against something else with a deeper neck.

I was just browsing the Modern Vintage site, as you do, and noticed that they are now advertising some 70s Ps and Js.  https://modernvintageguitars.com/product-category/modern-vintage-instruments/4-string-basses/modern-vintage-mvp472/

Just wondered whether any BassChatters had tried one of these, or knew anything about them.  I don't think they've been out very long.

23 minutes ago, joe_geezer said:

Here's a demo of the bass in action

 

Wonderful playing!

From some of the comments, I was expecting this one https://www.andybaxterbass.com/collections/bass-guitars/products/brian-eastwood-bender-collision-bass-fiesta-red

12 hours ago, Old Horse Murphy said:

After spotting this at Bass Direct I went up to try it and took it home.

Did you try the orange ones?  I've been eyeballing those but hard to know if they look as red as they do in the photos.

This one's light...

https://classicandcoolguitars.co.uk/portfolio/sandberg-california-ii-vs-in-high-gloss-creme/

49 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said:

I dont have a VS but if i select just the P pick up on my VM4 it doesn't have the same warm depth that i get from my P basses even boosting the bass EQ on the bass its a nice deep tone but again i find my P bass has a bit more warmth. That's maybe because one bass is passive and the other active so its not a like for like scenario.

Curious to hear what passive VS4 owners come bacck with. I'd really like a passive California VS4 for the build quality but i'd like that vintage warmth of a Fender P bass. Could always change the pick up over to be honest.

Dave

What happens when you put the VM4 into passive mode?  I'm assuming this is always possible with a Sandberg, but don't know what I'm talking about (as usual).

So if you had to compare the VS pickup against a P, how different is it?

2 minutes ago, mattpbass said:

Having said all that I just looked up a video of me playing the VT and it does sound pretty good, and man it was nice looking. 😂

 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CRrLGJrCewa/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

Sounds great!

I discovered Jeff Beck through Stanley Clarke.  I always thought he was great.  Never saw him live though.  RIP.

7 hours ago, Lozz196 said:

I’ve had the Vertigo and the M80 and I find the M80 better for my needs. The straps can be folded away and I can still load the bass in whilst it’s standing up.

This is my experience too.  I prefer the way the M80 opens, with the zip going all the way around.  Makes it much easier to pack the bass away.  The Vertigo only opens partially and you have to slide the bass in.

What a beaut!  GLWTS.

I used to have one of those!

I always fancied one of these. GLWTS!

The Poolice

Look at film cameras, for example.  Some really old film cameras are now quite valuable, but generally Leica/Rolleiflex/Hasselblad etc.  You'd think the value would have dropped, but it hasn't.

So I suspect prices will broadly hold.

5 hours ago, Franticsmurf said:

I wonder if sometimes the name affects how we actually hear the instrument, too? 

 

Made me think of this:

https://www.science.org/content/article/million-dollar-strads-fall-modern-violins-blind-sound-check

I have that bass in that colour and it's wonderful.  The neck is exceptional.  GLWTS.

I'm interested to know whether anyone has tried the Righton Dual strap.  Looks like a cheaper version of the Gruv Gear Duo

https://www.rightonstraps.com/en/Dual-strap-for-guitar-and-bass-guitar-harness-strap.html

30 minutes ago, Beedster said:

Having said the above, I still count Follow You Follow Me as one of my favourite all time songs, a bit out of character for me!

Such a great record.

I don't listen to Genesis much these days, but when I do, I usually reach for Foxtrot, especially Supper's Ready.  I do still listen to Peter Gabriel quite a lot.

32 minutes ago, Piers_Williamson said:

And while we are at it, I think Imagination's bass player used to appear with a different bass every time, so this might be the only Wal appearance? (and I presume the bass line was actually a synth?)

I was (still am really) a huge Imagination fan, and Ashley Ingram appeared with Wals on several occasions (I'm sure I had an old VHS recorded off the Tube or the Word or something).  I wanted a Wal for sure.  On the records, the bass was clearly a synth, and it took decades to learn that it was almost certainly the Roland SH1000 making that sound.  Live, I'm pretty sure that bass guitar was played over the top of synths, but sometimes the bass was just synth (and not played by any band member). 

3 hours ago, Tradfusion said:

They broke the mold with Joni... heres a clip of her performing Hejira live with a fantastic band including the one and only Pino on fretless... 

 

Oh how amazing!  I didn't know that existed, thank you!

I was about 12 when Joni Mitchell's Mingus came out, and already learning the bass.  That album took me via Jaco to Weather Report and Metheny and Herbie, and via Mingus himself to all sorts of other jazz that might have seemed musty and fusty (although all roads lead to Miles!).  It opened doors which at 12 would have felt impenetrable.  I'll always have a soft spot for it.  In my personal musical history, it might even be the most important record I ever heard.

I still listen to it regularly.

Looks great.  I'd love to hear more about how Status necks compare to regular Jazz/Precision necks.

54 minutes ago, FDC484950 said:

Setting aside the nonsense of how many hours it takes to “master” an instrument (which is impossible anyway - no-one has ever “mastered” any instrument), there is some evidence to suggest that different instruments have different learning profiles. The piano is rather hard at the beginning because you have all 10 fingers in both hands, chords and counterpoint etc., but over time progression is relatively linear - so in general the more positive effort you put in, the better you will get. The guitar and similar stringed instruments are rather different. Although more generally accessible to beginners (basic chords in the main are simpler to execute and you suffer less with different keys and fingerings, plus you fret with one hand and pluck with the other), learning beyond a certain level plateaus significantly - so lots more effort and practice doesn’t result in the same level of improvement, just because of the physicalities of the instrument. It’s one of the facts that spurred Emmett Chapman on to create the Stick - to combine elements of a fretted and pianistic instrument. 
However, as has been mentioned many times in this thread already, it depends very much on the individual. A family like the Porcaros for example had the genes, natural ability and the perfect environment (plus tons of connections through their dad Joe). Players will more often than not advance faster with ability and/or with lots of hard work doing the right things to get better - which largely boils down to proven teaching materials and constantly challenging yourself to a) not develop bad habits (or correct them) and b) keep learning and growing with music and techniques you cannot play, instead of rehashing what you can play or are comfortable with.

The other point of view (which is just as valid) is that you only need as much ability to be happy playing the music you love

 

Great post!