sykilz

It's all a bit of a shared job I think , there are differing opinions, but it seems Alec played all the bass on 7800, parts of the first album, but then Hugh did the studio work and Alec played live. Strangely, at the time ( no internet then, kids) none of my crowd who were massive Bon Jovi fans even knew that the band used other members, but to be honest it was all about Jon and Richie back then, they were the stars. In my mind Alec will always be MY Bon Jovi bassist. ( no disrespect to Hugh who's a great player)

Yeah, think him and Tico were a bit older than Jon and Richie.

Those first 4/5 Bon Jovi albums have some great bass lines on, perfect pop /rock records IMO.

My own personal favourite is 7800 Fahrenheit  , love that album played over and over back in the day.

Sadly it seems Bon Jovi ( original) bass player Alec John Such has passed away age 70

Flea popped up in the Obi Wan Kenobi tv show as a baddie, and was quite good. He's done some cameos before as I recall.  Perhaps that's the future career path....??!!!

1 hour ago, ezbass said:

The boys from Thunder always deliver and my best gig of all time was seeing them at the old Astoria in London. Chris is also one of my biggest influences from when he and Harry were in South London, pub rock stalwarts, Bad Influence. A great player with a huge range of ability, great voice and a thoroughly nice chap. Hopefully, his bass wasn’t drowned out by a heavy kick drum mix (it normally is with Thunder ). I noticed the Status on Instagram, Chris does like to chop and change. He started with a Stingray in Thunder (they bought it for him), then his old, go to Jazz bass, then a Ricky and, until recently, the Sandberg. Looks like he’s using a Fender backline now, having used Orange for a significant period. He should join us on BC, his GAS would fit right in.

We were about 8 rows from the front almost dead centre, so the sound wasn't too bad for Wembley, and for once the drums didn't drown out the bass!!! There was a decent amount of bite and definition to his sound, I don't doubt in a smaller venue it would have been very much better, but for a barn it was good. The vibe was great, Thunder do a very nice line in smile inducing rockers.

Thunder, with Ugly Kid Joe and Kris Barras band, all three were great, Thunder were majestic, had good seats luckily because it was at Wembley cattle shed. 
Chris Childs of Thunder has moved from his Sandberg basses to ( I think) a Status graphite neck 5 string , he didn't change it at all and I didn't even see him tune it which is refreshing in an age when people seem to use a different instrument every few songs.

1 minute ago, Maude said:

 

 

I do love a good pop tune though. 

Maybe I shouldn't be here? 😁

You should definitely be here, writing a good pop tune is so hard, music snobs will tell you otherwise, but if it were easy we'd all be doing it and be millionaires.

I'm a hard rock/metal fan, but I love catchy pop stuff.

13 minutes ago, yorks5stringer said:

Weirdly I saw them maybe 6 years ago in South Petherton and have just accepted a gig there myself about 5 minutes ago.

Cool, well done you👍👍

I was going to say didn't know Larkin Poe had been around six years then remembered the gig I just saw should have been two years ago so that's probably about when I first heard of them , time gets weird sometimes 😆😆

Saw Larkin Poe at Shepherds Bush Empire last week.  Great gig, superb performance, the sound wasn't too loud and wasn't too bassy for once, vocals were sooooo clear , so I thoroughly enjoyed it!!!!  The girls in the band didn't stop smiling the whole gig.

5 hours ago, cetera said:

I've been given two free tickets for Bryan Adams at the Royal Albert Hall tonight playing the entire 'Cuts Like A Knife' album, plus assorted other greatest hits etc. Result

 

 God I love that album, when I first saw the 'This Time' video I so badly wanted to be Bryan. I was about 12 but it's still a great bit of American pop/rock, and Bryan can still kick it live, saw him a few years back👍👍

I would have said blue , but then thought of my actual basses through the years and the clear winner is red, closely followed by white, and 'natural'. In fact I've never owned a blue bass. But they look nice. Also I saw one of these in a shop recently and lost my mind, it actually looked as awesome in the flesh as in the pics. Ridiculous, but awesome.

my current bass is one of these, roadster orange apparently, and it's lovely

My originals band back in the 90's played metal akin to Metallica, Alice in Chains, and a healthy dose of Black Sabbath, and I used a five string as 50% of the stuff we wrote was in D, Db or even low B. However we broke up, then reformed in the  2000's and I only had a four string Warwick, I tried detuning but it didn't sound right for some reason, so I decided to channel my inner Geezer and Steve Harris and play in standard, in some cases an octave up from the original versions. Surprisingly it worked a treat, it added a kick to the music because the guitars were heavy enough already, several people told me they actually heard what the bass was doing for the first time (😆😆😆) . Saw Sabbath on the 13 tour and had a seat a few yards from Geezers side of the stage, and he plays well up the fretboard a lot, and yet the band retain their heaviness, so I guess there's an argument both ways, sometimes the extra low stuff will work, others you can rely on the heaviness of the guitar riffs to allow you to add more punch by playing higher up. IMO.

I saw STP at Brixton, I think, with Scott back in the 90's and he came whirling on stage in a black flat leather police style cap, mirror shades and a voluminous white feather boa. I can still picture it so vividly, even now. Great showman.
Also saw Jeff with them a couple of years ago just before covid, and was apprehensive about him replacing Scott, but to me he did a great job of honouring the memories while adding new material. It was one of those gigs that within minutes I was taken away to a happy place and it became quite a fantastic evening.

And yes, Rob is a cool bass player, to listen to and to watch too, he has a laid back style of his own!!

I like the bass tone on the album myself. However after hearing the whole album I'm left somewhat disappointed by the songs on it. I apologise for starting this thread with an optimistic heart 

Unbelievable. The man was a force of nature. Rarely am I shocked by a 'celebrity' leaving us, but this time I am shaken. Damn.

When listening to raaaaaaawk radio, I can tell the difference between the bell "clang" at the start of AC/DCs "Hells Bells" and Metallicas "For whom the bell tolls".  I mean as soon as it goes clang, I don't have to hear both, that would be easy. I couldn't describe the difference though. They just are.

I've yet to find any practical use for this.....skill......☹️

Some of the mid range Yamaha BB basses have a similar 'rounded off' joint, but on a cheaper Yamaha I've not had problems accessing upper frets, I guess you adapt to what the guitar is shaped like eventually??

Has anyone else seen the Foo Fighters film?

I went to the cinema last week to see it. Yes it's kind of awful, but in a good/knowing way, there were some genuinely chuckle worthy moments, some great fake gory deaths, and a possible side project album. Could have been 15 minutes shorter IMO.  I doubt the oscars will be knocking at the door but I've seen worse films. Unsurprisingly Grohls 'acting' was pretty good, the rest of the band....not so much 😆😆😆😆

3 hours ago, Steve Woodcock said:

 

Thanks @sykilz, I'm glad you liked it.

 

That's a good question: honestly no, I don't think it did make a huge difference - in fact when I submitted the session file the guys in the band didn't even realise it was fretless! 🙄 I'll take that as a compliment about my intonation I guess, haha 😅 I've been playing fretless for about 26 years now I think and have used it in similar settings throughout that time but ultimately my decision to use it on this particular session was because their previous bassist had established fretless as part of the band's sound on their previous four albums.

Knowing it's a fretless on the track I can 'hear' that slightly different timbre, but in all honesty blindfolded there's no way I'd have guessed. And yes, your intonation is obviously spot on , and there's some nice brisk technical stuff in there. I love Ibanez basses in metal in general, but too many guys spend all their time down the far end of the neck, when playing parts in the higher registers give a lot more punch and focus to my ears. Nice job sir!!!!

13 hours ago, Steve Woodcock said:

Another one from me, here I am playing on the new single from UK death metallers De Profundis, again with my fretless Ibanez Gary Willis signature bass:

 

 

 

Oooh, really like that.

I'm more of a traditional metal guy, but that's great, the reason I found this thread is I saw a mate's sons band yesterday they were ??death core???, anyway, they had a fretless bass player and it just didn't work for me, all very boomy and ill defined, but this is what it should be like, your playing in this track is very well defined and punchy. 
Do you think that the fretless makes a huge difference in the final mixed track as opposed to a fretted? Or have you always played a fretless in such bands so don't know/care??😆

22 minutes ago, AndyTravis said:

I think Strays by JA is the Album One Hot Minute could’ve been…😉

Love 'em both 👍

13 hours ago, EdLib-3 said:

As I mentioned previously, One Hot Minute is an album I've grown to appreciate more and more over the years. I dig the Dave Navarro era, anyone else a fan of the more rocking Navarro Chili Peppers? Also that album to me, is Kiedis's songwriting as its best. The lyrics are really memorable and coherent.

I love One Hot Minute, but if I'm entirely honest I come from the 'rock' side of liking funk rock, and I was a huge Janes Addiction fan so that's probably no surprise!!!!!

8 minutes ago, Kevan said:

Hagrid 👏👏 good spot. 

😆😆 bang on !!!!

Although Hagrid does the facial hair better IMO.....

2 hours ago, AndyTravis said:

Much like anything Star Wars - I’ll give anything RHCP a go.

 

Just like the constant rumblings about Star Wars’ recent output- I’d rather have it than have nothing.

 

I am surprised they stir up so much ‘hatred’ in people - but, that’s life isn’t it.

 

Agreed Andy. Lots of the bands that I discovered in the 80's and 90's are, luckily, still around and putting out new stuff. I'd rather that happen than not. ( same with Star Wars)

But also there are new bands ( some heavily influenced by the sound of the previously mentioned bands) and that's good too, because now there's much more choice and breadth of stuff. 
So if the older bands are stale and not as imaginative to your ears as they once were, there's other alternatives.

As I said in the OP, it's VERY reminiscent of previous material to me, but I'll still sing along when it pops up on the radio.

I remember a good stand up by Dara O' Briain where he says one of the great things about being 40 is not having to be 'hip' or 'cool' in your music tastes, you are free to just enjoy the sounds you like. 😆😆😆

Think I read somewhere the album is in the 'style' of Stadium Arcadium. Personally I quite like that era, obviously it won't be for all and they are  probably never going to do another Uplift Mofo Party Plan style album. After the last few years I'm just glad a lot of the bands I liked as a 'youngster' are still out there playing.