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I would have thought 'Harvey Mason' would have been considered worthy of a place in the 100 greatest Drummers list, considering his modest CV?

Maybe Rolling Stone could have allotted him the number 94 in the position of *greatness*.

Artist Credits - Harvey Mason

I have been a life long fan of Dave Grusin. A top, top keyboard player who just happened to compose knock out Film Scores and very memorable TV Themes.

His bands and Orchestras were often filled with a lot of my favourite musicians as well - A win win for me.

I just so happened to watch a film last night called 'Havana' and Dave Grusin composed the score.

A mixture of Latin Music and Orchestral cues. This piece below 'Cuba Libra (Se Fue) is from that film.

9 hours ago, TimR said:

 

I played with a drummer for several years who couldn't up the tempo gradually because it doesn't work like that. The drummer is human. 

 

Music does work like that, exactly like that. Because as you say, 'The Musician (Drummer) is human'.

Accelerando,  Rallentando, Ritardando, A Tempo, Rubato?

Changes of tempo - Understanding musical terms

19 hours ago, TimR said:

 

It's not the drummer's job to keep the band's time. The first paragraph of the link says its the drummers job to keep time. 

Even the OP realises that the drummer isn't there to keep the band in time. The band can do that themselves -  especially when the drummer isn't able to and needs a flashing beacon stuck in their line of sight. 

I wasted years playing with a drummer who sped up if I stopped playing. Every song we played I had to lean back on the beat in order to keep time. One gig I had had enough and went with him on the final song. It just crashed and burned when it was going so fast the singer couldn't get the words out.

Maybe at the time, you should have recruited a Drummer who could keep time. You could have avoided all those wasted years.

In hindsight, maybe you should have got him "A Simple Metronome With A Big Flashing Light"

2 hours ago, TimR said:

See my previous post. 

I did, but I didn't understand what you were talking about. Judging by your post, neither did you. That's why I asked.

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1 hour ago, TimR said:

 

Well that's the first paragraph wrong to start with. 😂

 

No wonder there's so much issues with drummers who think everyone should be following them. 🤦‍♂️

  What's wrong? 

16 minutes ago, Acebassmusic said:

 

I think having 1 person in the band to count in all songs can give a bit of consistency to start tempo. The number of times I've played in bands where another musician (usually the guitarist) would start the song at a totally different speed due to nerves / adrenalin / last song played / they just feel like it! 🤣

 

In my band we try not to leave much space between songs and use the drummer as the focal point. They're queing up the next tempo whilst the guitarist checks tuning or someones changing patches etc. Everyone knows who does the count in and should there be any technical problems they can signal to the drummer to hold off. It seems quicker and pretty efficient.

 

I agree that it's everyones responsibility to keep time together but it's the drummers role to provide the pulse that we keep time to. If the drummer can't keep to the rehearsed beat then you've got problems...... I'm in the house band for a local jam (so no real pressure on getting things right) and we regularly play "Le Grange" which on the record is about 160bpm. The guitarist always starts it off about 170bpm and by the end of the song we've achieved 190+bpm Our drummer is usualy solid but for whatever reason on that one, goes astray 🤣

Yep, and most of this in the link below as well.

Please enter at your own risk - It's a dot com for Drummers.

This Is Why Drummers Are So Important In A Band

On 13/04/2024 at 20:36, RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE said:

Jefferson airplaine -white rabbit 

 

Haha...I really like the George Benson version of White Rabbit.

😁

3 hours ago, Marky L said:

Wotcha

Well, as it says above (but add in cheap). Anything anyone can suggest? I want to be able to biff in the bpms and hit go and a big assed light begins to flash.. so I can shove that in our drummers face so he can count in songs at the right speed. (Something he seems to think only he can do).

 

Thankee.

Do you have to shove it in his face? If not, can I suggest you get a vibrating metronome, because I can think of a better place to 'shove it'. 

😂

13 hours ago, Mykesbass said:

Interesting choice. One of my favourites was from two years later:

 

I remember getting this album when it first came out (I was 15). I still listen to it quite a bit these days.

Some really nice arranging from Don Sebesky and of course, produced by the late, great, Creed Taylor.

Both who were the team behind 'The Other Side of Abbey Road'.

John King does a good groovy job sitting and laying it down...

Just watched this video about the terrific 'Jeff Porcaro'. The fellow was the absolute master when it came to feel and groove:

Personally, I wouldn't have two identical cases. I would have a Red & a Black.

2 hours ago, tauzero said:

David Bennett Piano - not for my non-existent keyboard skills, but his looks at chord progressions, time signatures, etc.

Mike Verta's channel is good for Piano/Keys as well. Lots of great tips.

Rick Beato for me as well...

Also, I like Media Music Composer, Guy Michelmore. His YouTube channel is updated regularly with composing and music theory tips, along with software demonstrations etc.

The Alfredo Rodriguez Band:

38 minutes ago, tauzero said:

 

I found the two Tripadvisor reviews that mentioned the venue's treatment of bands useful. 😁

I have just seen them as well.

Name and shame 'The Sh*thouse pub in Slough' on all the Social Media sites to let other bands/musicians know what happened.

19 hours ago, basso navo said:

Hello disciples of the bassic tones,

 

I need your help:

Who else other than Jamie Callum sings "What a difference a day made" in the key of F?

 

Thankful for your useful replies

basso navo

I think Canadian Jazz singer, Chantal Chamberland, did a version in 'F'.

She has quite a low register.

56 minutes ago, RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE said:

Communards - Don't leave me this way . A good song completely ruined by sweep impersonations ( sooty and sweep ) 

 

Funny enough, I've just heard that on the car radio and had forgotten how much I really dislike everything about it.

A very popular cover though!

12 hours ago, Mykesbass said:

Just checked Babbitt's discography on his own website. He didn't claim it (although he did record with her in 70 and 71).

Also, there doesn't seem to be any credits on all the usual sites for that album....

Which I thought would have opened the door for Carol Kaye to claim it was her. **

Basie Meets Bond...