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Cheers Mykesbass, Interesting reading.

[quote name='Mykesbass' timestamp='1443120024' post='2872461']
This discussion kicked off on here a couple of months ago, and I worked out then that Spotify payments are actually quite good in comparison to radio plays per person listening to your track, The problem has arisen as artists are looking for streaming revenue to replace physical sales but there just isn't enough money being generated from streaming customers to make this happen. If Spotify put their prices up people would stop paying and go back to file swapping/sharing and then the writers and artists would get nothing.
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Sorry, I didn't mean to retread old ground. I also think I probably got the title of the thread wrong.

I was just a bit suprised that one of the biggest songs of the last few years had made so little for one it's co-writers via streaming. I think your points pretty much sum up the catch 22 that non-'name' musicians are finding themselves in with regards to streaming services.

I don't really know anything about the ins & outs of Spotify but presumably someone must have made some serious money.

[url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/34344619/all-about-that-bass-writer-says-he-got-5679-from-178m-streams"]http://www.bbc.co.uk...om-178m-streams[/url]

I put on my raincoat to make it rain, and sure enough the skies opened up again.
I dreamed of you as I walked to the shops, you were dancing with the wallies on Top of the Pops.

Billy Bragg - Moving the Goalposts.

Harley Benton do an active 6 string progressive.

I seem to recall Bilbo from this parish got a 7 string HB which he was pretty chuffed with.

Other than that Thomann are doing the Ibanez GSR206B-WNF (catchy name) for £251.64 & I think I've seen Andertons selling them at a similar price.

Its all pretty astonishing. When I started playing 25 odd years ago it was rare to see a six string this side of a grand.

[quote name='SimonEdward' timestamp='1442760230' post='2869260']
I've [u]never[/u] been tempted to own one, but I've heard them on records and always thought.. meh and?.. so what?? 'Everybody' has them, and everyone sounds similar. Solid but 'safe' and not very inspiring.
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On my best day I might be able to tell an active bass from a passive on a record, or whether its being played on the bridge or the neck pick up, but as to telling the actual brand of bass being used - no chance.

[quote name='sykilz' timestamp='1442744866' post='2869100']
Seconded, if we get one more person to agree we can pass the above as law, I think.....
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Its been reviewed by both conservative & labour governments a couple of times, & they decided not to intervene for reasons unknown, which is slightly odd because when it comes to prestige sporting events the rules around ticket resales are much tighter.

I love Fenders.

My only problem is that, like a lot of people I think the USA range is currently overpriced when you look at what else is available at that price point.. They're great instruments but I'm just not sure that they're £600-£1000 better than a made in Mexico.

Congratulations. That is a definite result.

They've just announced they're calling it a day, but Funeral for a Friend - Hours was a great album.

Emo mainly passed me by but I saw them live about 10 years ago, bought the album & ended up loving it. Its somewhere between hair rock Bon Jovi & early Manic Street Preachers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX-kf3s_6DQ

Not going to be everybody's cup of tea, but I'm quite fond of


[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfeyUGZt8nk[/media]

By the time it finishes I've forgotten it's a novelty & been transported back to a dodgy club in the late 90s.

1992 is mu favourite Carter album - I atill break it out for a listen every now & then.

I'm not sure what qualifies as 'under rated' but my choices would be

The Wedding Present 'Bizarro'.

Maximo Park 'A Certain Trigger'

Beastie Boys 'Ill Communication'.

I'm not at all religious & I don't really understand these things (& I certainly don't want to sound like I'm taking the pee), but is it possible that he sees taking part in the band as part of his worship experience, raising a joyful noise unto the creator? (if that's actually a thing, I know it's a Galliano album), rather than just providing a backing track for the congregation?

My best mate rediscovered christianity a few years ago & I'm constantly suprised by the way he applies it to almost every area of his life.

Alternatively, Double Bass guy could just be being a d*ck.

Probably worth asking on the bass build diaries section.

There are some seriously skilled people on that thread.

The main thing I've picked up is that you need a lot more clamps than you might think when building a bass.

I've sung & played guitar in a couple of bands but when it comes to singing & playing bass, I just can't do it, its like a mental block.

In one band we used to do Nirvana's 'All Apologies' - after a bit of practice I had no problems singing & playing the guitar line at the same time. If I switch to bass & try to play exactly the same line whilst singing my fingers start tripping over each other. I can't even do it with a pick (which is how I played it on guitar).

I have nothing but envious admiration for every bass player/singer out there.

After multiple attempts 878 with right hand, 893 with left hand (I'm right handed) & 832 the time the program ran without sound so I had to guess where the beat was based on previous attempts.

I was a big fan of Galliano in my student days (early 90s) particularly the 'Joyful Noise Unto the Creator album'.

This thread has inspired me to go back & listen to a few of their tunes.
Tbh I think I'm bit old, jaded & cynical for the idealistic hippy lyrics these days but apart from that its still fairly enjoyable

Anyway...

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymGxV6KEtCc[/media]

I do still love the flute solo on this one.

I think from a bass players perspective (and purely my own opinion, of course) that when you play with a guitarist with a single coil guitar it leaves a clear demarcation between the sonic territories of the bass & the guitar which makes it relative simple to get a nice clear bass sound in the mix.

The increased mids range of humbucking guitars (PAF fitted Les Pauls seem to be particularly strong in the mids area) blurs the sonic territories together making it a little bit harder to get a distinctive bass voice in the mix. Its not a huge problem but I think it does require a little more fiddling with various controls to get right.

Going from a Tele to a Les Paul does seem a bit like going from one trebly extreeme to the mid-heavy other.

[quote name='bartelby' timestamp='1439322444' post='2841957']
The first time I heard Om I listened to the album constantly for a week
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When I read 'Om', for a split second I thought you might be referring to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M0GnI_cIDg

Nooooo

Not the Reflex, I'm only about about halfway through my efforts to save up for one. I think I'll have to keep the fund going & see what the new bass models are like. (Fingers crossed there are some new bass models)..

It's not going to be to everyone's taste, but it looks like you've done a fantastic job there.

You should stick a thread up on the Build Diaries section I'm sure they'd be interested in the processes you employed to get such a great looking instrument.

I was on the Public Peace website last night and found these stunning examples.

[url="http://www.public-peace.de/index.php/bass-guitars/maruszczyk/mr-tee/4-string"]http://www.public-pe...mr-tee/4-string[/url]

They've definitely made the 'basses I will one day own' list.

The red hollow body is up there with the most beautiful basses I've ever seen.

[quote name='bluejay' timestamp='1438806929' post='2837643']
Their guitar, drums and bass solos weren't driven exclusively by their egos. James needed breaks to rest his voice, and obviously the other bandmembers who weren't playing a solo at any one time could rest for a few minutes too. Jason usually played some nice melodic solos which stopped just before becoming boring!
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I saw Metallica on the Black Album tour at the NEC in Birmingham. During Jason's Bass solo me & a friend left our spot in the stands, [color=#000000]queued [/color] up at the bar, bought a round of drinks for the rest of our group & returned to the stands and still had to wait a couple of minutes before he finally finished.

Still it was better than Lars' Drum solo. Played at a physically painful ear splitting volume complete with strobing lights I have wondered if the effect it produced is similar to those employed by the CIA on Guantanamo inmates.

Still one of the best gigs ever though.

I'm in the 'Bass solos can work really well in Jazz' camp.

But then only for about 30 seconds to a minute tops.

Other genres I'd have to take on a case by case basis , but generally its a bad idea - 99% of audiences would prefer it if you just did another song.

I've always found Closer by Nine Inch Nails to be a particularly touching & emotive love ballad.