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Dan Dare

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  1. 13 hours ago, drTStingray said:

    Well you may think this but the question asked by the OP does not have any specific answer and from my experience, dynamics and especially the lack of from guitarists/keyboardists and even saxophonists can seriously contribute to the problem - I've had several experiences where the guitarist won't play a solo for fear of stopping playing the riff - as a dynamic I went over and rocked with the guitarist - he was so loud in front of his gear that it's no wonder it would sound thin to him as he could not really hear anything else (until he stopped).

    If you intend to have more harmonic content (like Yes for instance) add keyboards. If you want to have continuous rhythm guitar or guitar riffs add another guitar - however the bass will not be able to achieve this if this is the soundscape you want. 

    In a band environment techniques like the drummer playing ride cymbal, the bass player playing a higher and more intense part, and the solo player creating more dynamics can raise the intensity of a solo. However if your idea of filling the sound out is to sound like Status Quo then the bass will never achieve this and you'll need more musicians or backing tracks. 

     

     

    You are making my point for me. I am suggesting adding to the harmonic content - via adding keys, brass, etc - in order to make the sound fuller and more interesting. I certainly didn't say that one ought "to sound like Status Quo". They can hardly create a harmonically interesting sound, after all, with just 2 guitars, bass and drums. It's the same every time and swiftly becomes tedious.

  2. Just now, Dan Dare said:

    Unless you have a complicated active bass, wiring is incredibly simple. You could do a J Bass for a great deal less than it costs to buy a kit. Three CTS pots, a capacitor, a Switchcraft socket and some decent cable is not going to cost you more than about £15. Plenty of diagrams on the 'net. As long as you can solder,  you're away.

     

  3. 16 hours ago, drTStingray said:

    The thing to remember is a small change on bass goes a long way - simply doubling up the notes or changing the intensity of the line you're playing goes a long, long way in terms of dynamics - or introducing a root note an octave higher.

    However if you're already playing flat out there's nowhere to go - so you (and especially the guitarist) need to organise the song dynamics to account for this.

    A good lesson can be learned from Free - these tricks were used to great effect.

    Finally fat bass sound (without effects to create it) will generally come from your fingers, a bass guitar and amp set up with those  characteristics - eg Free - Andy Fraser using an EB3 with a valve stack (Orange?). I find basses like Warwicks, Wals and Musicman create a fatter sound (to the extent you sometimes have to thin it out a little or play softer) - there's a good reason why Flea stopped using the Fender Jazz live - it was simply a thinner sound and wouldn't get that raunchy fat slightly driven sound so effective in a lot of RHCPs music. 

     

    As I said, it isn't about dynamics, volume, etc. It's about harmonic texture. Bas and drums with a solo instrument is still pretty harmonically uninteresting to the average listener, who is not interested in how accomplished the bassist is.

  4. 16 hours ago, chris_b said:

    Jack Bruce, John Entwistle, Ronnie Wood, Tim Bogert. Not very interesting? Seriously?

    A classic example of solipsism, I'm afraid. To most listeners, who are not focussing solely on the bass but hearing the whole piece, a bass player, no matter how accomplished, playing on their own with a drummer and one melody instrument is not very interesting. Sorry, but that's the way it is. 

  5. 10 hours ago, chris_b said:

    But the point is you don't want to fill out the sound. That's not how it's done.

    Listen to any record and the levels don't go up or down during solos. Quiet sections aren't quiet. The arrangement will change so that less is played but the level remains the same. No one plugs in a pedal to fill the sound out on a record, so why do it on a gig?

    If the OP's sound is thin during the solos then it will be thin in the rest of the song and the racket the guitarist is making is covering it up. Sort the band's sound out (maybe add some natural authority to the bass tone) and the guitar can play or not and the band sound will be good.

    I'm not talking about volume, but texture and I disagree with your assertion. A band can sound "thin" if there is little happening harmonically. The worst example is the classic guitar, bass and drums trio. When the guitar player stops playing chordally and takes a break, you have drums and one, yes one note (unless the bassist uses a lot of double stops and/or chords) playing at any one  time. Not very interesting and it's going to sound sparse, however much you "add authority" to the sound of the bass.

  6. Why get a small low powered head for practices? Any modern, powerful class D head will be light (my Ag700 weights about 4 and a half pounds) and do you for full on gigs as well. Saves having to buy two.

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  7. 1 hour ago, BigRedX said:

    Most bassists who claim not to need compression probably have something in their signal chain that is actually doing the job of a compressor. Where it is valves in the amp or something in the sound coming out of the PA.

    The only way you guarantee not to have any compression in your bass sound is if you:

    1. Don't go through the PA
    2. Use a transistor amp (not class D) with the input gain well below the level at which the clip light comes on and still plenty of clean extra volume available on the master volume control.
    3. Don't have any overdrive/distortion/fuzz effects.
    4. Don't use any digital effects.
    5. Don't use a wireless system.

    You forgot a very important point. You must use a cab that is capable of reproducing the full frequency range fed to it and at full volume. Such a beast does not exist in any transportable format.

  8. 1 hour ago, EssentialTension said:

    In my exerience, with some guitarists in some bands, it can help to encourage the guitarist, or other musicians, to stop calling it a 'solo' and to stop thinking of it as a 'solo'.

    The 'instrumental interlude' should involve all members of the band - it's not all about one instrument with everyone else doing as they are told.

    That sounds like a recipe for cacophony. Unless it's an arranged, multi-instrument break, the rest of the band should be providing back-up when someone takes a solo and staying out of his/her way. You wouldn't all noodle away whilst the singer was singing (well, you shouldn't, anyway).

  9. 19 minutes ago, mike257 said:

    Not everyone uses them on their pedalboards, but almost everyone will be compressed. A lot of amps will compress naturally anyway, and, at small club gig level and upwards, it'll almost certainly hit some sort of compression somewhere between arriving at the mixing desk and departing from the speakers.

    Very good point. Although bass players may not use compressors per se, a lot of bass rigs (especially smaller combos) do indeed compress naturally by virtue of the fact that they run out of headroom.

  10. 11 minutes ago, tonyclaret said:

    I wasn’t thinking that myself, perhaps the whole neck needs rising. Veneer, do you mean this kind of thing?

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    Yes. I think raising the whole neck slightly would be the way to go. As you like the way it plays, it sounds as if the neck angle is good and you just want to lower the action overall. Shimming one end of the neck will alter its angle by canting it back, so you'll lower the action at the top end, but you'll have to adjust the nut to take care of the low end. I'd experiment with varying thicknesses of card (don't glue them in place so you can change them) and then get a piece of veneer in the thickness that works best.

  11. It sounds as if you need to raise the whole neck away from the body a little, rather than adding a shim at one end to increase the break angle, so a shim covering the entire neck pocket surface looks the way to go. Fwiw, I don't buy the arguments about decreasing resonance by introducing a tiny gap, etc. However, covering the entire neck pocket surface won't result in any gap if you do it neatly ( a piece of veneer - you can experiment with thickness - should do the trick).

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