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"What Did The Romans Ever Do For Us?"

Made Ford Transits going by the age of that.

It's probably why the Romans built the roads straight if you've ever tried steering a Transit around a corner flat out?

It looks like a TWB6Z. These came with gold hardware.

[quote name='NJE' timestamp='1389015936' post='2328773']
I wouldnt mind seeing a Jaco jazz with his other less known, fretted maple Precision neck. I would kill for a Jazz bass with a bulky old maple precision neck as I find the jazz neck a bit scrawny.
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Just bolt a Precision neck on a Jazz body then.

People who really haven't grown up and real eccentrics don't know it.

There is nothing 'not grown up' in being in a band. it's a very normal thing to do.

You all seem to me very well adjusted individuals. Not crazy and certainly grown up. It's simply what we do.

[quote name='isteen' timestamp='1388956662' post='2328189']
Thank you for all inputs, I will definitely take them into consideration.
Is the VJ96 replaced with the V74?
Can't find the VJ96 on the homepage anymore
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Yes it looks like you're right.

[quote name='watton_earth' timestamp='1388959568' post='2328232']
Thanks...that's the one....I need to save some pennies for this, and buy when mrs watton earth is not watching.....(shhhhhh)
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I bumped it up hoping that you would reply because i was curious as to whether it was the one you meant.

They actually look good don't they?

[quote name='chriswareham' timestamp='1388959048' post='2328225']
That's one of three of those Gibson EB type Kays on eBay at the moment.

But there is a nice looking later model Kay bass on there as well:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KAY-Bass-guitar-Thru-Neck-Vintage-Japan-/121245668282"]http://www.ebay.co.u...n-/121245668282[/url]
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There is also this.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-1960s-Kay-K-2B-Electric-Bass-1964-/181292808458?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a35e4b90a

This is much different to the three similar ones on ebay that owe a more than a nod to Teisco.

Obviously not that important then?

[quote name='Fionn' timestamp='1388950052' post='2328045']
The rug is AMAZING though!
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I knew a girl who had a carpet like that in the 70s.

It used to make my eyes go all funny even back then. Oh, hold on a minute, that could have been something entirely unrelated to the carpet.

Cosmic, man.

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1388950191' post='2328053']
I used to sell those back in the 80's.

RRP was something like £39.99 IIRC.
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...and you can still sleep at night?

[quote name='tedmanzie' timestamp='1388948220' post='2328009']
I disagree with some of your assessment I am no expert but as far as I'm aware the JV's were built as exact replicas of the vintage 57 and 62 instruments, although only the very first ones were finished in nitro. I thought the USA Fenders of the time were not very good, and I thought that they re-started production in the mid 80s having learnt from the Japanese factories how to improve the manufacturing and quality control. My 1987 US strat is very well made.

I have two JVs and they are both better than the more recent MIJ 62p that I have also owned (and sold). I also much prefer them to nearly all the USA Ps I have tried in shops. They also have a good mojo about them being 30 years old and all that.

I am no virtuoso bass player, but I think for £600 to £700 a JV is a great instrument for not a lot of money. I disagree that its a fashion thing, as the Squier brand now is decidedly unfashionable and associated with cheapness!

However I would definitely NOT buy the bass under discussion in this thread for £400!!
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JVs are great basses and just because i think that they are fashionable doesn't mean they aren't great basses. I just think that there are a lot of other basses out there that are good but simply not fashionable and hence not worth anywhere near what they would be if they were in fashion. These JVs were always great basses even when new and excellent value. The music press knew that and Fender eventually caught on and realised it too and over the years have become more and more collectable. The word Squier may be unfashionable now but every bass players knows what a JV Squier is and it has become a cult object in the bass world.

The same thing seems to be happening with Shergolds and Haymans at the moment. A few years ago you couldn't give these away mainly because they were out of fashion but now they've gone through the roof. I doubt if the price of the Shergold Marathon 6 would have climbed as high they are now if it wasn't for Peter Hook. Kids have got into old Joy Division and New Order records and that has sparked a massive interest in them. In the 90s these stood for months in music shops because no one wanted them.
Rather amusingly in a thread on BC recently some said that the Robert Smith was the most famous Fender Bass VI player ever. I suppose for many guitar and bass players of a certain age he is but of course there were many famous players using these years before most of them were born and the fact they are fashionable has undoubtable a lot to do with Bob.

What we've got to work out nowTed is what the next 'most wanted' basses are and we've cleaned up.

P.S. I've got a shed full of pointy 80s & 90s Jacksons and Washburns so fingers crossed.

I wonder if Ed Cassidy had a mid life crisis?

He was 46 when this was recorded and being the drummer in a band of youngsters obviously didn't do him too much harm as he lived to be 89.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs7qUw3cuYc

I and most of my friends have gone through that time in life and i've come to the conclusion that a 'mid-life musical crisis' is fine.

It's the non-musical ones that worry me like at one time every friends house had a gleaming new Harley-Davidson in the drive. That was worrying.

Take up the Mandolin and go down your local folk club.

[quote name='Steff' timestamp='1388938349' post='2327824']
I know you have mate, that was a joke.

I'm just saying it's not the whole JV fashion that's the cause of this bass to be relisted

Anyway I'm not gonna comment much here - don't want this thread locked too.
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Sorry but jokes don't come over to well on a forum....... That's a joke by the way!

It is nuts how the prices if bass of certain basses has gone though. I Bought an old Japanese made Tune Bass Maniac recently for a fraction of the cost of a JV Fender. When they were both new the Tune was about 4 x as expensive as a JV. Now it's the other way around. Mainly because the Tune is not fashionable, it is though in my opinion a superior bass.

JVs are good but just not that good. I have though enjoy the posts on this one which shows that humour isn't dead on here just yet.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1388936822' post='2327799']
This is what students at Manchester Polytechnic used to look like in the late 1970's.
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Only if their name was Geoffrey and not really Klaus Flouride.

[quote name='Steff' timestamp='1388926612' post='2327635']
Fashion?

You might have missed 5 pages of discussion about this in a different thread
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Check the thread that you're referring to and you'll see that i have contributed to it. If you had read it it could have saved you the time to post your comment.

These basses were cheap in comparison with other Fenders at the the time. I know that because i was around then. They aren't any better now than they were when they were cheap. We now live in a world where most things retro in the guitar and bass world are worth a lot of money.
It's fashionable to have a JV guitar or bass and people fall over themselves to be on that train. It's always been the same. In the 60s you could buy an old grey army coat for pennies on any army surplus shop until the hippies started wearing them and then they were asking £££s for them in Kennsington Market and not because they kept you warm but because they were fashionable.

[quote name='spacey' timestamp='1388927746' post='2327656']
But churning ot basses from China with Fender on has devalued the brand.
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Fender have always churned out basses. Whether it's China and Mexico nowadays or in the U.S. in the 50s, 60s & 70s. These are (and were) mass produced in their thousands.

[quote name='spacey' timestamp='1388928862' post='2327678']
They did not as they were not invented
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Yes, that's why if you notice i said 'wish'.

[quote name='spacey' timestamp='1388927746' post='2327656']
Fender was and should be a premium brand that commands respect, not something chopped out by a CNC machine in a country where they get executed for not been a slave.
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Have a good look at a 60s or 70s Fender and you may wish that they had CNC capability back then.

400 quid starting price?

Just goes to show that the world of bass guitars is as driven by fashion as electrical gadgets, shoes and handbags.

[quote name='yorks5stringer' timestamp='1388865230' post='2327158']
I know a man who made a Bass for Michael Henderson: Jim Fleeting from Ripon. Here's a photo of it:http://jimfleetingguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/angled.jpg. Maybe someone can do a linky, seems to have stopped working for me....
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Yes, i remember Jim Fleeting making that Starship bass.

Here's a link to it....... [url="http://jimfleetingguitars.com/basses/michael-henderson-starship-bass/"]http://jimfleetinggu...-starship-bass/[/url]

[quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1388919079' post='2327536']
How come no manufacturer has ever offered "signature" upright double basses? (No doubt someone will prove me wrong but I've never heard of any)

I guess they must think that upright players wouldn't feel the need to lash out around £35,000 for a "Ron Carter RC55 deluxe" or a "Charlie Mingus Mojo 2"
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I suppose it's because all the great jazz bass players played 19th Century basses so it would be difficult to make a signature version.

A Scott LaFaro signature bass made by Kolstein would be nice though.

[quote name='leschirons' timestamp='1388919079' post='2327536']
How come no manufacturer has ever offered "signature" upright double basses? (No doubt someone will prove me wrong but I've never heard of any)
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Here's one...

[url="http://kolstein.mivamerchant.net/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=KMI&Product_Code=1LRTB13&Attributes=Yes&Quantity=1"]http://kolstein.miva...=Yes&Quantity=1[/url]


and a signature EUB....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bunny-Brunel-Signature-Series-Electric-Upright-Bass-/150543268015

I had a Vintage VJ96 and i can't say enough good things about it.

Very well made, great value for money and also the lightest 34" scale bass i've ever had.