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17 hours ago, Bassassin said:

The pre - Kaja Beggsy, circa 1979. Tells you all you need to know.

 

 

Kasuga EB-750 from '75-ish, if you were wondering.

 

 

Reminds me of pictures of myself at that age around the same time, except I was much uglier.

I really liked Nick Beggs as a bass player as soon as I first saw/heard Kajagoogoo. Superb and inventive bass lines that really captured the zeitgeist of that time. There were lots of fancy dan bass players back then, but Nick Beggs had real substance to what he played. 

I've always thought Nick has a very distinctive tone, too. Lots of top end but mids to the fore as well. 

If Kajagoogoo had chosen a different name for the band it could have been a different story, daft as that may sound. It's difficult for a band to mature when their name embodies infantilism.

3 hours ago, White Cloud said:

I like the strategically placed pack of Rotosound Swing Bass as much as I like that bass, and I like that bass an awful lot.🙂

Jeff Beck was a phenomena, a one-off. Like when Aretha Franklin died, there is no one comparable to take his place. I once heard Malcolm McLaren describe Jeff as the Paganini of the electric guitar, and I wouldn't disagree with that.

Special talents like that don't come along very often. Jeff had his own unique voice on the guitar, and it was beautiful. There was always something challenging and edgy about Jeff's playing. All the way through his career that distinctiveness set him apart from most of his contemporaries. He will be sorely missed.

38 minutes ago, Skybone said:

 

IIRC, Rickenbacker have been using Pau Ferro for years (early 2000's?).

I think Rickenbacker have been using the aforementioned Caribbean rosewood for the past few years. Before that I know they had dabbled with jacaranda and bubinga for fingerboard wood, as well as traditional rosewood.

I saw that Rickenbacker have recently stopped lacquering their fingerboards. That's a bit of a deal breaker for me. My experience is that to lacquer a board makes much more of a difference to the tone of a bass than the choice of wood. Maple boards with lacquer sound much brighter than those without. I expect that the lacquered fretboard has been a significant element of the Ric tone we all know and love.

43 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said:

Its daddy is just to the left of it. You can just see the edge at the bottom corner.

Here's a better pic. 

This is one of those Father Ted moments. "these ones are small and those ones are far far away 

I had to look twice at that ,too...

7 minutes ago, Bassfinger said:

 

Ironic, as Geddy himself prefers his "medium-high."

 

 

Well I never knew that!!🙂

I would have presumed Geddy was a low action kind of a guy. Then again, he did play Rickenbackers for years, so he probably had to adapt to a slightly higher action.

Laurel is a bit of a budget option in lieu of rosewood, but pau ferro is a completely different proposition.

If I recall correctly, "Bolivian rosewood" was traditionally the preferred fingerboard wood for USA- made Spector NS basses, and "morado" is Roger Sadowskys' preferred choice for fingerboard wood paired with an alder body, in preference to rosewood. 

Some folks think that in terms of tone, pau ferro is an excellent amalgamation of the warmth of rosewood and the brightness of maple. I can't comment, never having owned a bass with that wood for the fingerboard, but I'd definitely be up for trying it, even on a high-end bass. I like the pinky colour and I'm sure it would sound fine on most basses.

I think bass players worldwide would like to hear you unleash this beast in a video! The bass looks good too, by the way.

On 17/12/2022 at 10:21, joe_geezer said:

Hasn't arrived yet but here's a taster...

 

Stunning example. If it's an Empathy it will have a sweepable mid control with a three way toggle switch, from what I remember. I had a headed Empathy from this era and I remember it fondly. 

I remember playing a proper Status Series 2  like this one for the first time at the Bass Center at Wapping and being surprised that it wasn't as light as I had expected. For some reason my youthful self had assumed that all graphite basses were lightweight. Not so. Not that these basses are excessively heavy, by any means but they are usually over 9 pounds. 

And yes, they do look the business with that two piece brass bridge.

I probably watched this the night it was on!

Great band, excellent bass player, lovely bass. Paul Webb was/is a tasty player, for sure.

22 hours ago, White Cloud said:

I take your point however, also recall the 80's very well wherein Fenders were generally considered as 'naff' by a great many players.

Funnily enough, I remember Fender basses being much harder to come by in the 1980s. New Fenders at the time were not very nice and ones from the Seventies and earlier were not as numerous as they are today. 

19 hours ago, ARGH said:

Naaa I’m talking the really far out 8,9,10+ string instruments… Dzrod, Conklin, Bee etc

Stew McKinsey, Trip Walmsley, Jean Baudin pioneering the big boards.

 

 

I recall that Les playing a fretless 6 in 91 was really brave, now it’s kind of, ok, nothing too far out. 

It just shows how old school I am that a five string bass is extended range to me.🙂

Those big basses never really became a mainstream trend though, did they? If Flea had adopted one it could have been a different story. Maybe.

I am really interested in how this turns out! Keep us posted. 🙂

Extended range basses really started coming to the fore in the late 1980's, not the 2000's. Maybe in the 2000's they reached a different audience with the advent of progressive metal players adopting them.

I remember the Ken Smith 6 string being a game changer in so much as it had wider spacing so you could actually adapt to playing it without spending several months in seclusion trying to adjust to 15mm spacing. I remember the first ones arriving at the Bass Center at Wapping  around 1987-88 and they were selling them like hot cakes. They were all either spoken for or sold within a few days.

And by the late 80's/early 90's five strings were de rigueur. You had to offer an excuse or explanation for why you didn't have one.

For me, in the 2000's the main trend was mainstream bass players going increasingly retro, leading to the fetishization of all things vintage that we enjoy today. In the 80's/90's a trendy bass player would have spent his money on a brand new Trace Elliott stack and revel in its clean power. The same bass player today would spend his money on a vintage Ampeg B15 and marvel at its historical authenticity. Presumably also when it's authentically knackered and being repaired again.

I haven't played a CS Pino, but reading your previous post about favouring late 60s/ early 70's P Basses( my favourite era too), I would draw your attention to the much wider nut width on the Pino, and earlier P Bass reissues in general.

If, like me, the primary reason you favour late 60s/ early 70s Precision Basses is because of the narrower nut widths Fender started to offer as an alternative to the 1 3/4 inch that was previously standard then you might well struggle with a bass with a wider nut. I don't  particularly enjoy playing 4 string basses with a 1 3/4 inch nut, and if you are the same then I would steer clear of any P Bass with that dimension.

If you're spending that kind of money make sure you get something you like, not something you have to adjust to, because you probably won't, if you see what I mean.

Most decent P Basses sound fairly similar, in my experience, ie like a  good P Bass. Boutique examples offer a better playing experience rather than a radically different tone to a fairly standard Fender. In terms of tone I have never heard a Custom Shop Fender that was incontrovertibly better than or particularly different to a regular USA- made Fender, so I wouldn't stress too much about the sound. Find a decent CS P Bass bass that suits you and chances are it will sound Ok.

According to Freud, the compulsion to collect stems from toilet training and an unwillingness in the infant to relinquish  their faeces. That is the psychology behind collecting anything, if you accept Freudian psychology, anyway.

Regarding collecting basses, my own experience is that I have often bought basses that I absolutely need to own, but in practice don't particularly need to play, if you see what I mean. I must just like the reassurance of having those options available should I choose them. 

I think the Bongo is a beautiful bass. It's also a wonderful instrument in use.

I remember when they were first unveiled and I thought the EBMM were going to be inundated with demand. I couldn't wait to get one myself!

I still find it hard to understand why so many people object to the look of the Bongo, and I'm sure most detractors have never actually seen one in the flesh or indeed played one. The three dimensional chamfering is very attractive when you see it up close.

Funnily enough, not so long ago I found the old (or should I say"vintage") pair of BHS underpants I used to use to polish my first ever Fender bass that was my pride and joy about forty years ago. It's a strange thought that if my music career had gone slightly different ( i.e if I had had one) they might be worth a few quid as memorabilia, especially if I had a road case for them that could be auctioned as a separate item.

I saw him playing a lovely old Fender P Bass with a blocked and bound Jazz neck and what looked to be a Badass bridge and Di Marzio pickup a few years ago. I wouldn't be surprised if he had kept that one.

I think that's the bass his custom USA Lakland P was supposed to emulate. 

On 02/12/2022 at 08:31, pn_day said:

I purchased a 1978 BB2000 last week. I'm still getting used to it (and to playing round wounds as I've been on tapes/flats on all my basses for years) - but it is rather nice. It sustains longer than any bass I've ever played, but also has more clarity than my (Indonesian, bolt-on) BB425. I've always fancied a neck-through Yamaha - and when I played this one it was hard to say no!

 

I know such a post needs photos, so here goes...

Phil

 

 

That's a proper Yamaha bass!

Well, to me the Warwick is a bass of the 1980s/early 1990s. I suppose by the early 2000s Warwick's marketing had shifted its focus more  towards the  modern rock genre, giving their basses a bit of a different media profile.

According to my recollection the early 2000s bass trends were characterized by a preponderance of active Jazz-style basses and the burgeoning revival of the Precision Bass, especially with flatwound strings. These trends were primarily influenced by Marcus Miller and Pino Palladino respectively. And they are still with us twenty years later.

4 hours ago, Kiwi said:

Out of those two Alembics I think the fretless went for way more that it might have sold through somewhere like Ebay.  And the graphite necked one went for less than I expected.  A selection of items went for way more than their estimates as well including that 1960 P bass.  Given the choice between a pair of wooden balls and two Alembics, the decision would be easy given the total values are so similar.

Let's face it, you probably need a pair of wooden balls, or something similarly robust, to fork out so much money on items that won't necessarily be great investments in the long term. 

I am a big fan of John McVie's bass playing but I am sceptical that the tools he has used are imbued with magical properties making  them more valuable. Will collectors in 20 or 30 years time still believe in Fleetwood Mac?

As the baby boomers pass into history, will the generations that follow place such importance on the artists of that era? Only time will tell.

The only magic I would pay these prices for is if John McVie had found a way to make his Alembics balance properly on a strap in a comfortable playing position and weigh less than about 9 1/2 pounds. And even then, if John McVie doesn't want them, why should I?  Presumably the basses he is keeping offer some advantages over the ones he is getting rid of.

Thanks for that fascinating insight. I have wondered about these basses for decades, with the likelihood being that I would never get my hands on one.

Maybe Stanley Clarke likes neck-diving basses, because his Alembic Signature model is inherently prone to it, too. Bear in mind Stan is a big bloke, so he is dwarfing a short scale bass. I get the impression that he is such a virtuoso that what would be big physical challenges for lesser mortals don't bother Stanley Clarke.

Lovely basses with a great sound for any genre of music, modern or retro. The passive pickups on these basses sound so huge they put a lot of active basses to shame.

Looks good in black,too!