JJTee

How about C.K.Watt?

Thanks all, glad it’s not just me who can’t quite pin it down! Almost sounds like a heavy chorus that’s then gone through a subtle phaser. 

Caught this on Pick of the Pops earlier and the bass, and the very heavy use of effects, caught my ear. Found the isolated track and out of curiosity I was wondering if this is a very heavy chorus effect, or flanger? (Or maybe phaser, but thought not). Anyway, it’s very effective (pun intended…):

https://youtu.be/AYtG3NSJ5CU?si=4WG4ym4_o98_laVT

You all have it all wrong. THIS is how a jam night should be…

This is a great little vid.

35 minutes ago, Belka said:

I've heard about this before, but I've never exactly understood what he means by 'egg-shaped'.

I think in profile, the bottom half was fatter/thicker and more bulbous than the top half. So looking down the neck the lower half was just a bit fuller feeling in the hand is my guess. 

Thanks for your thoughts Belka - you’ve certainly given me pause for thought with the refinishing plan. I also wasn’t aware of the difference in truss rod access between the different years. I vaguely recall something about the very early versions not having a jazz-width neck (unlike mine and all the later ones), and perhaps they somewhere in between a P- and a J-width. I don’t know what year that’s from though. 

There are a few differences between the main run in the years 84 to 87, and from what I’ve read this was due to what was available at particular points in terms of hardware. So some have different bridges and tuners. And obviously at some point they stopped painting the back of the necks - sometime in 1986 I would guess. 

I knew Duff’s had a manufacturing defect in the neck which meant it had a slightly ‘egg-shaped’ profile which took Fender a couple of attempts to get right when they made a couple of copies of his original back in the late 80s/early 90s. 

Finally got my hands on one of these, since Duff inspired me to pick up the bass back from in 1992. Ideally I would have like a slightly earlier one (84 to 86 I think) that seem to have the back of the neck painted black, and obviously in pearl white like Duff’s (which he bought in 86, so guess it was an 85/86 model). My serial no starts ‘E7’ which I think is 1987. 

Anyway, it’s in very good condition, with (unusually) the original Fender knobs. It has the original oversized Japanese pole pieces in both pickups. They’re about 6.5mm across, and I’ve compared them to the SD Quarterpounders I had fitted in my Fender Aerodyne, and they seem to be about 6.7mm.  Feels quite heavy (4.2 kg) compared to the Aerodyne (3.8kg). Very solid. Love the jazz neck. 

Duff apparently switched out the Jazz pickup in his model for an SD Hotstack - I don’t know why (in one video I saw he said “it came with Seymour Duncan pickups” when he bought it). So there’s a bit of confusion as to what’s gone on. It’s difficult to tell from the available photos. Who knows what was in place when Appetite was recorded. His signature models have a Hot Stack jazz pickup and a generic Fender P pickup with normal sized pole pieces in both. 

Anyway, it could well be irrelevant as, to my ears, the magic is all the in the TBX rotary control (the one nearest the Jack) With all controls on max and the pickup selector set to both pickup, it’s instant Duff! And that’s even with the deadest strings I’ve ever experienced. There’s just a difficult to describe upper mid/top end character that comes through when the TBX is on full that is unmistakably that sound on the Gn’R albums. So I don’t I’ll be installing a Hot Stack. 

Anyway, sacrilegious as it may be to strip the excellent condition red finish, my plan is to take to Bow Finishing near Godstone to get it refinished in pearl white and the back of the neck painted black. 

27 minutes ago, NHM said:

Are you certain you paid your £50 into his account?

Yep. All gone through smoothly to the account details provided by the seller. 

Many thanks chaps. I have messaged a mod. The guy has sold 8 items in the past, all with great feedback. So it is a bit odd.
 

I haven’t left feedback yet in case there’s some sort of crisis going on here. You never know what’s gone on in someone’s life that means a £50 online deal is utterly irrelevant while they try and deal with whatever life has unexpectedly thrown at them. 

OK, I bought an item from the For Sale section here a few weeks ago on 30 September, paying (perhaps rather naively) by bank transfer as the seller said they didn’t have PayPal.
 

It wasn’t massively expensive - £50 pedalboard - and the seller seemed friendly and efficient, saying it would be posted out the next day. 
 

Over 3 weeks later, nothing. No item. No replies to my messages. Diddly. Squat. Of course there could be illness, a family emergency, or another crisis at play here. But I can see they’ve visited the site as recently as Tuesday. So I’m resigned to thinking I won’t see my item - which is still for sale on here, by the way - and will put it down to experience (and will use full fat PayPal for all future dealings on here, rather than bank transfer as I did on this occasion).

Any suggestions as to what to do? The irony is that I can see this person has made a few contributions on the Mick Mason thread… !

Have had mine since they were first released. Will never be sold. No, it’s not subtle, but it does a superb super- intense synthy fuzz when tweaked towards the extreme end. Love it. Good one pedal solution for things like Hysteria. 

Another cracker from ‘82, this time from Shalamar (Leon Silvers III on bass/producer duties?):

Is this still available?

I think this is what Duff uses (and maybe Flea?), so good enough for me.

Bump

I love Pick of the Pops on Radio 2. Currently hosted by Gary Davis. I always find any chart between 1977 and 1982 to be absolutely packed full of superb tunes, and some cracking bass lines. 1978 was one from last week: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m001y2kd?partner=uk.co.bbc&origin=share-mobile

Baker Street

Wuthering Heights

Night Fever

Everyone’s A Winner

Denis

…oh and Brian and Michael’s Matchstalk Men & Matchstalk Cats & Dogs…

I was 3 in 1978, so I think this period is fused with my early life and memories. But there did seem to be some high quality music in those five years. 

17 hours ago, fretmeister said:

I'd go natural, rosewood board, chrome hardware, black plate - just like 'Nards one.

 

And the SLO neck profile.

 

$2999 which is about £2377 today + shipping + vat = about £2971.

Maple board, then!  Looks like he had two, or switched pickguards from time to time. 

Everyone* in this video:

*In reality, I do appreciate their technical ability, and musical knowledge. But the vast majority of this video leaves me stone cold…!

Champagne Supernova

Don’t Look Back in Anger

Wonderwall.

You’ll see a pattern emerging. Appalling, over played, over-rated rubbish. 

Can’t beat a bit of Beato when it comes to theory…

On 15/03/2024 at 12:44, Cosmo Valdemar said:

This deserves to be seen in full, it's just a symphony of perfection. 

 

 

"Grab me guitar please."

If only you there was a way to translate what the dog was chipping in with. Probably a helpful comment like, “don’t forget to retune it”, or “I told you to get a chair with five casters, much more stable”.

And here he is on a BC Rich…

Marvellous stuff!