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[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='427050' date='Mar 6 2009, 12:48 PM']The bass has been sold, subject to payment.[/quote]


Thanks !
Hope it lives up tot its reputation (would also be nice if things could be like they used to, before this whole discussion and every member as welcome as before)

Tony Oppenheim-Slap it...... also worked for me.
Easy to build up, well explained. I used to work in a music-shop where they sold these sort of dvd's and haven't seen anything better than it.

The Belgian government is very worried about the lack of Celinder basses in our country and has send you a PM.

I posted a link of this topic on another bass-forum...If I'm amazed by these pages filled with pointless comments (wow, someone says that he doesn't like U2 : that changes everything for me, suddenly I realised that I had to change my opinion and that I was wrong !!) then I want to share this with fellow-bassplayers.
Maybe you could change the title of this topic in "My taste in music is better than that of millions of others and I want to keep on trying to convince others that I'm right"
Keep on posting...it's amusing and I keep coming back to this topic.

I'm not even a big U2 fan but I'm just struck by the negativity there is on this forum... putting musicians down and really not contributing anything except saying "no". That's just the easiest thing there is and I see that all around me. If it should be encouraged that more totally useless remarks should be made all in the name of 'I'm entitled to my opinion"... well go ahead. As soon someone says anything about the uselessness they get the reaction "But we can write anything we like..". If only it would add something to what I don't know
I'm not interested in that sort of people.. "McCartney is a lousy bassplayer" "Knopfler wrote stupid songs" "Slipknot rules and is better than Jamiroquai"
Sigh.......
You probably also won't care about the fact that there is such a big difference between reading on Bass-chat and other bass-forums across Europe where there seems to be just a tiny little bit more respect and positivity.

There's a difference between a solid opinion and useless remarks like "Yeah, Bono is an idiot" or "I think The Edge is stupid and my mother thinks so too".
As soon as a band is famous there seem to be a change and you're not supposed to like them anymore.
Everyone has a right to have an opinion but how many are actually saying or explaning something ?
Reminds me of those thousands comments on Youtube : who cares ?
U2 certainly doesn't...

edit : I always enjoy the comments of a forummember Bilbo230763, interesting to read, no envy, good insight and I learn a lot, makes a big differences with all the other important opinioooooooooooons.

They have a guitarplayer with a unique sound who influenced thousands of other players, they have a good bassplayer who knows his place and has some great basslines (Stories for Boys, Mysterious Ways, etc...), they have a driving drummer who is solid and they have a powerful singer with charisma and something to say. They moved millions of people with more than a couple of great songs...
What's more childish than saying " X sucks...."
Instead of putting down creative people who have succeeded, try to write a good song yourself.

Congratulations, Oliver.... beautiful !!

Not too bassy because that makes it undefined when playing in a band.
I like lots of midtones with just a bit of bass added, like a Wal, a Fodera of a Ken Smith with the bridge-pickup mixed with a tiny bit of the neck-pickup. I need every note to be be heard and I don't like it when people feel the bass but can't hear the notes.

John Giblin, Graham Maby, John Illsley

Well, there seem to be plenty of bassplayers who think otherwise... He's got technique and he uses it. I would too if I could. Sometimes passion means also speed and weird fills. There's a whole more in Funk than just playing dull octaves in E while thinking "I'm really grooving... mààààn". A lot of bassplayers think they are funky because they play one note on the "1" for fifteen boring minutes.
I can't stand more than ten minutes of Parliament, George Clinton etc because I think it's dull and has few ideas. I bet Wooten can do all that stuff too but if he wants to expand his horizon and play a lot of notes, why shouldn't he ? I get a kick out of him. I was blown away when I first heard him and still am (not always).
He made me a more versatile bassplayer than I was. I don't copy him but I use his ideas. And I think he is a very funky guy..

I'm still a big fan of Wooten, think he is one of the best bass players ever and he has a great groove and timing. His imagination is endless and his ideas are fresh. Sometimes his sound is a bit too thin but that's his choice. He opens doors for me unlike the bassplayers of the Arctic Monkeys or the Kaiser Chiefs whose groove doesn't move me at all but that's a personal taste off course.
Sometimes Wooten plays crap but so does Percy Jones or Stanley Clarke or anyone. Wooten doesn't stand still and moves on unlike a lot of other bassplayers (including me a lot of times). I think there's a lot of jealousy going on. If he wouldn't be any good, he wouldn't have a topic going on around here.
I like Karn, Giblin, Levin, Wooten, Paul Turner, McCartney, Graham Maby, etc... they all move me for various reasons.
This Wooten thing I really like and I would love to be able to play this way.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_9vLph-9ZA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_9vLph-9ZA[/url]

Great to have that sort of reaction...maybe odd for people who don't share our "obsession" but inspiring to us.
A couple of years ago I was in France and a friend of mine did backing vocals at a concert with the musicians of Elvis Presley. I got the chance to go to a restaurant nearby with bassist Jerry Scheff and we shared thoughts (what can you say to a man who says while he's eating a pizza "I didn't just play Elvis stuff, I played bass on "Riders on the Storm" too...)
I send him an email when I got home to thank him for the experience and quickly got a reply with kind words. Surprisingly he told me that he liked to listen to Radiohead (I think he was 63 at the time). I still treasure those moments.

Beautiful bass, I used to have a simple VW Monarch without the extended equalising.
This makes me think about buying another, why are you selling it ?

Maybe I overlooked but nobody mentionned Richard Bona yet...he's a revelation to me.

[quote name='bilbo230763' post='407337' date='Feb 12 2009, 10:45 AM']I went through a massive Jaco phase and still love some of what he did but, when you listen to a LOT of it, it is amazing how much repetition you hear - same with Stanley Clarke. I am not referring to stylistic things, the little idiosyncratic details that define every player to some extent, I am talking about stock licks that are 'party pieces', things that are pulled out of the hate time and again for non-musical reasons.

Some Jaco is sublime; Joni Mitchell's 'Shadows and Light', Heavy Weather, the Word of Mouth stuff, Bright Size Life etc but some of it is clumsy beyond belief and very uncool.

Personally, I think that Jaco (I feel the same about Paul Chambers) was at his best when working with strong musical personalities who kept him in check and gave him great material on which to work; Zawinul & Shorter, Mitchell, Gil Goldstein, Bob Mintzer, Pat Metheny etc. When the people around him deferred to Jaco's muse (Birelli Lagrene, Jon Davis, Brian Melvin etc), the product was second and even third rate.

But, in short, some of what he did was absolutely marvelous.[/quote]

+1 (still think his best work ever was on "Refuge of the Road" with Joni Mitchell)

[quote name='BeLow' post='404727' date='Feb 9 2009, 09:15 PM']Because I am very old I can recall Pino being interviewed by the bassist mag and I think I recall him saying he played that track on the pedulla, on which he subsequently wrecked the fretboard with his slap playing.

I would say that is a Vigier in the video as well.[/quote]

I feel also old and remember the same interview mentioning the Pedulla on that song.

Nice bass...but don't you think that it deserves a better price ? 700 £ is a bit too cheap imho.
Good luck with the sale.

I like Donna a lot !

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqdX7YaIrdE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqdX7YaIrdE[/url]

Nice to see that it's got sold, Oliver.... congratulations.

[quote name='spiritchaser' post='393607' date='Jan 28 2009, 02:00 PM']Cheers Geert! Need a fretless? [/quote]

I just sold my MKI shedua fretless last Sunday for the price I had paid... New owner didn't mind selling his motorbike to obtain the Wal. I've got three Wals for the moment and I'll pass this one :-) It's nice to have some cash on my bank-account for a change !

Hello Oliver, good luck with the sale of this beautiful instrument...
I remember your story about the cat and the Wal bass...too bad the animal's dead.

Nick Lowe...loved that bass sound on "Breaking Glass"

I am a huge Paul Simon fan and I think Graceland is one of the best albums ever...the basslines had a big impact on me and I still feel that everytime I play.
Just recently I noticed how many times Paul sings out of key during live gigs..It was also a bit painful when I saw him on "Later with Jools..." during the piano chat.
He seemed to have some mental problems, looked depressed and he refused to watch the old footage of himself. He doesn't seem to be very happy.
I still think he is one of the best singer songwriters ever...his lyrics really move me and there are too many excellent examples to quote.

Thanks, Oliver !