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[quote name='obbm' post='20893' date='Jun 20 2007, 05:25 PM']I'll bring my iron with me and do it for you.[/quote]

Hey Dave, I've got some rumpled shirts here if you are ever in Cardiff .....

[quote name='thedontcarebear' post='20755' date='Jun 20 2007, 01:47 PM']I know there are builders around here like Shuker, RIM, AC etc, but whenever I start writing an e-mail to one I get a little way then have no idea what to tell them as I'm not 100% sure on what I want, apart from a singlecut! What kind of stuff do they want to hear to give a rough price?[/quote]


It's s tricky one first time round.. I was a bit aprehensive when I first specced out my bass to Jon Shuker but he is great at it.
So as Big Red and Largo have said just call up with the bits you know - like how many strings, headed/headless... single cut you've sussed.
There's a whole lot of stuff you won't even think off til they ask but they will take you through the options and what difference things make .. Like maple or laminated necks and then what the different types of laminate will do to the sound etc..

Jon Shuker was brilliant at taking my confused ramblings and make a bass out of them and I am sure the people you listed would also be able to do that.

Whateve r you get have LEDs on the side Oh and if you go to Jon Shuker's STAY OUT OF THE WOOD STORE!!

OG

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='20615' date='Jun 20 2007, 10:06 AM']Cheers.
Actually we might start doing what you suggest.
with my other band i always go in to their PA. Its only a small one but they have a sub bass speaker as well and your right, just a small amount helps.
with my main band its difficult getting them to do anything but at the last gig we all put a bit of our instruments in to the PA and it does help project but at this gig we didnt get to sound check so it was a bit over the top.
We are hoping to continue to do this but by no PA support i meant large PA.[/quote]

Okie kokie
OG

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='20595' date='Jun 20 2007, 09:23 AM']We have three holiday camp gigs in early July, no PA support so these will be the biggest venues we are playing this year without PA support.[/quote]

Hi Dave
Glad the cab story has a happy ending ....
Meanwhile have you tried putting a tiddly bit of bass into the vocal PA for this sport of gig (I assume you have vocals )
I do that with my band and the smallest amount of bass in the PA seems to throw it a lot furher down the hall and means the backline sound can be less loud ..
Just a thought
OG

[quote name='Sean' post='20430' date='Jun 19 2007, 09:16 PM']the resluts should be what you're looking for. Anyone concur?[/quote]

Blige! I dated a few of the Resluts in the 80's .. They arn't still around are they?

[quote name='binky_bass' post='20106' date='Jun 19 2007, 12:11 PM']basses are allowed more than four strings![/quote]

Quite right
Your's looks like it has none though

As a slight aside .. are there any mainland European mags that feature basses? Don't mind which language

[quote name='The Funk' post='19492' date='Jun 18 2007, 10:18 AM']£125 for a valve compressor? Bagsy me after Dood?[/quote]


After you, please Mr Funk
OG

[quote name='lwtait' post='19710' date='Jun 18 2007, 04:24 PM']ive seen a fwe of these shuker basses on basschat, theyre really nice. im guessing theyre handmade by Jon Shuker by what ive seen from these comments.[/quote]


Oooh yes There's loads of us with them

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='19741' date='Jun 18 2007, 05:19 PM']Genetic engineering has allowed them to insert the DNA from a Harley Davidson V-Rod into a donor egg taken from a Yamaha J-bass, producing this mutant zombie-axe.

Normally, the aluminium sub-frame is concealed beneath a layer of synth-skin, allowing this monster to avoid detection ... until it's too late.[/quote]


Wow! if Linda Hamilton is involved, put me down as interested ..
OG

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='19734' date='Jun 18 2007, 05:08 PM']Not on the fingerboard, Jon, just the nitro-cellulose bits. I use lemon oil (and very seldom, too) on ebony or rosewood.

I wouldn't recommend using [i]Brasso[/i] on a frequent or regular basis, just for that once-in-a blue-moon clear-off-loads-of-crud type clean.[/quote]

+ lemon oil for the woody bits

Use actual T Cut and car polish like MER on the shiny polished bits - occasionally.
It works fine on modern bass coatings.

Also Planet Waves make a "mirror finish" spray for guitars which is really good too .. Not that good on the car though ...

[quote name='Tinman' post='19461' date='Jun 18 2007, 08:50 AM']Just thought I'd ask this as I'm going to be out of the country for a couple of weeks from later today.

If any of you are going along to Jon's to start a build or check on a current one, could you possibly take a camera with you and see if there's anything of my build to photograph. I know it's only been 3 weeks since it started but I don't want to bug Jon too much as he's so busy and the last thing I want to do is annoy him with endless requests for pics.

I should be able to access my e-mail while I'm away, so if there are any pics available could you e-mail them to [email protected]

Cheers in advance.

Pete[/quote]


Might be up there this weekend though it may not involve a trip to Jon's workshop .. If I see anything I'll snap away ..
OG

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='19464' date='Jun 18 2007, 08:54 AM']Yeah, it was a long drive home. worth it though as the audience was all female [/quote]

Is that the gay club in Doncaster?

[quote name='elom' post='10318' date='Jun 1 2007, 12:42 AM']Okay, that's good enough for me. I'll get one in the next couple of weeks.

Thanks for all your help.[/quote]

Elom did you get one?
What do you think now?

[quote name='paul, the' post='18696' date='Jun 16 2007, 08:47 AM']I swear I find out about a new brand of bass every day.[/quote]

Ha ha well here's a few years' reading for you
[url="http://www.bunnybass.com/e-zine/directories/builders.shtml"]Bunny Bass list of cusom bass luthiers - about 100[/url]

[quote name='nik1093' post='13748' date='Jun 7 2007, 07:05 PM']how u get side leds???????[/quote]

Side LED's are pretty normal ..
Martin Sims will retrofit them to your bass if you like ...
[url="http://www.simscustom.com/html/simsleds.htm"]http://www.simscustom.com/html/simsleds.htm[/url]

Orange ones are a tad pervy and bizare but hey, that's Rich for you

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='19122' date='Jun 17 2007, 12:53 PM']Going OT here i posted this over on TB but seeing as they are all still in bed ill post this here to see if anyone can help
Last night i had the worst sound ever at a gig. Using my MB SA450 and UL115.
--Snip------
Thanks for any advice.[/quote]

Dave were you set up in the same place on the stage as usual?
It may have been a wall proximity thing

I've also noticed that the density of the air can change the sound - cold nights with atmospheric high pressure sound different to hot sweaty humid low pressure nights.

Oh and I once went back to a venue and the whole place souned different as they'd moved the PA bass bins under the stage - caused all sorts of strange effects til we got used to it.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='19183' date='Jun 17 2007, 04:13 PM']I believe you totally overestimate the size of the market! I doubt even Ampeg sells that much gear...

Alex[/quote]

How many Epifani dealers are there in the UK? Is it just the Gallery?

Something odd has happened to my view o fthis threads' buttins and controls so here's paste in

"by site map you mean a page with links to all the pages on the site? excellent idea.

i do realise i am a bit slack on the SEO front! i should make more of an effort. i will be doing some updates for the NightDragon site when they are a bit further down the line, so i will use that time to do the tweaks you suggest.

i'm just more of a pictures guy....and i tend to let the clever stuff slide a little bit.

i'm pleased you like the ND site mate....it's nice to have a review from someone who really knows their stuff.

i did expect you to have something to say about the sound fx and animation on the flash banner though! "

-------- reply -----

Yeah Site map is one page with links to all of the pages on the site.
That way when the Google (Yahoo/MSN) spiders get to it they can find all the pages on the site. I am sure you realise that no one knows exactly what Google bots do but the belief is that they are now looking specifically for site maps and favouring new sites that have one. Thus your site gets indexed more often .. Loads about it on the google site.
Also humans are finding site maps to be the fastest way around a site when the navigation is complex or idiosyncratic

PM me when you want to do the SEO on the Night Dragon site and we can talk specifics.

80% of SEO is common sense and easy so a good picture guy with good visual design skills who also builds to include easy SEO as a default (a very rare animal) would score many brownie points with clients and potential clients who look at his portfolio

Re the Night Dragon site - "arts" sites are great 'cos you can basically do what you like, unrestrained by the rules of commerce, competition etc. but you are selling the movie to loads of people - investors are just one group - so it does need to work well in that respect.

Someone looking for info about a specific project like the Night Dragon film will stick with the site and work out the navigation and stuff like that..
It's not like selling a wedding band to a groom where you have to make it easy straight off or they just go BACK one click and google off to the next wedding band in the results list ....

Incidentally you should use the phrase "night dragon" whenever you talk about it in a forum as these forums are indexed by Google and so it will add to the google score for the film, especially if you link to it .... Guerilla SEO in action

Animation and music are fine in their place - I'd expect a film site to have it - in fact a film site without that stuff would be missing an opportunity ..

Flash is great as well. Used sensibly it can really lift the quality of a site, used badly it can make your site invisible to Google and impossible to forward to a mate, thus killing a (following building) band's main marketing methods stone dead - google and viral marketing. However if you sell your band to agents then an all-Flash site works a treat precisly because it doesn't work well in Google ..

Fun eh?

Found this useful list somewhere

GT6B Models etc

Flip top-models the ampeg B-15
B man models fender bassman 100
Bass 360 models acoustic 360
T.E. models trace elliot ah600smx.
Session models SWR SM-400
Concert 810 models ampeg SVT
As for speakers
1x15 Trace Elliot 1518
1x18 SWR Big Ben.
2x15 acoustic 402
4x10 SWR Goliath.
8x10 ampeg 810E
Original for built-in speaker for amp selected in type.
-----------------------------------------
Effects

Individual effects:

Comp/Lim
OD/Dist
Chorus
Rev/Delay
Preamp
3 Band ParaEQ
Speaker Sim
Wah

Combined FX1:
Octave
Enhancer (fantastic){original author's opinion]
Slow Gear
Defretter
Ring Mod

Combined FX 2:
Phaser
Flanger
Harmonist
Pitch Shifter
Pedal Bend
2x2 Chorus (Chorus with a crossover, very cool)
Auto Slap (stupid)
Short Delay
Vibrato
Humanizer
Tremelo/Pan
Bass Synth.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='18645' date='Jun 15 2007, 11:51 PM']Dave, whilst you've got the speakers out I'd really like to see some photos of the inside of the UL cabs, just trying to get an idea of how they brace things to make them quite so light!

Alex[/quote]


To refer back to a question way back up the thread, isn't [i]that [/i](and the sound) the stuff that makes a cab with two 100 Euro drivers worth £800?
It's the R&D ..
OG

[quote name='paul h' post='18614' date='Jun 15 2007, 10:44 PM']always helpful OG..thanks mate.

NightDragon has been up since yesterday...and all the text is as supplied. i gather that they are sending out an investment pack with a link to the website so they are not relying on people finding it via a search engine. but if it becomes an issue i will happily look at the changes you suggest.

as for my site...i love the idea of using the misspellings! top tip. i am always the top of the search engines with the right spelling...but how many people spell it right???

good stuff.

paul.[/quote]

You are welcome .. I'd suggest that from now on you always add a site map to any design, linked from the Home page, and submit it to Google site maps. You don't have to make it a glaring link, something subtle will do the trick. The robots don't know what image you use so a 1x1 pix (with good tuned alt tag of course) will do it if you don't want teh humans to see it.

Yes any ol' SEO company can guarantee to get a site to the top of the search engines results pages, if the search is for something unusual like your name, Dood's name or "hht6789jkim3m3m3m44" assuming that text thread happens to be on the Home page somewhere

Re Night Dragon,
It looks great by the way - the site I mean .. I expect the movie will be good too ..

"I gather that they are sending out an investment pack with a link to the website so they are not relying on people finding it via a search engine."

OK same points, really. i.e. most people that get any info about the film from any source, trade press, a flyer, and especially anything on paper or via good ol' word of mouth, will instantly search for "Night Dragon" in Google and see what comes up. And, as any ecommerce adviser will tell you, these days if you ain't on Google page one - five, you don't exist ..

So I'd have though you really should do as much as possible to make the site work as well as possible on Google given what they have supplied .. I know a lot of web designers have "SEO " as an add on at extra cost but for the 5 minutes it takes to do a decent page title tag, description and (image and Flash movie) Alt tags I'd have though it was an easy bit of "added value" to offer your customers ..

But then if they all did that I'd have a lot less work

[quote name='Painless' post='18600' date='Jun 15 2007, 10:30 PM']LoL!!!

I actually live on Marylands Eastern Shore, which is farmer and redneck country... anything over 150 watts and you risk blowing their straw hats off![/quote]

My apologies That sounds a whole lot more civilised to me
Then Rumble-on, boy

[quote name='paul h' post='18485' date='Jun 15 2007, 06:37 PM']let's keep the old website thread alive eh!

i have just done a bit of web design this last couple of weeks and it's made me realise how out of touch i am with it all!

first i had to find a way around microsofts annoying "click to activate this control" thing for a flash navigation bar to work properly. that wasn't around last time i did anything. in the end i dynamically loaded the swf using javascript and it worked a treat.

so then i decided to redo my personal site in the "modern" style. by that i mean by using just divs and css to take care of all the layout. no tables to be found! check it out if you fell like it. definitely the "cleanest" website in terms of code...and probably design i have done. just lacks content at the moment.

no site engine optimization on there at all...but i get all my work through word of mouth anyway.

[url="http://www.paulharckham.com"]www.paulharckham.com[/url]

paul.[/quote]

Hiyah Paul
Yeah people do still PM me now and then to take a whiz through their band sites and I'm happy to do that ..

Yours is interesting cos, as you say, it's not really there to be found by concept searchers. You might like to optimse the SEO for people who know you exist, know you have a website and are trying to remember where the hell they left the url though ...

"Now what was that guy's name? The designer guy that did Night Dragon, Paul something Arcam? Hackem? Harkam?"
I'd put all the possible misspellings of your name in an Alt tag on one of your images just in case ..

is this you too?
[url="http://www.paulharckham.com/portfolio/"]http://www.paulharckham.com/portfolio/[/url]


Flash is generally a pants way to display info or navigate for DDA and SEO reasons as the spiders just can't see the contents of flash movies (and they hate javascript too ..) so they just won't get past the Home page unless there a site map or text links to the other bits... Of course you don't have a huge amount of stuff there anyway so it's less of a problem for your site but normal navigation and bits of Flash adding, well, "flash", work "better" and can achieve the same visual effect, more or less ..

Not being found on Google may not be a problem for you but I suspect it could be a problem for the Night Dragon site as there's little accesible stuff for Google to index ... and it hasn't got as far as indexing the "we want investors" page, despite the link.. . This may be because it's new and just not indexed yet or it may be that the spiders got to the home page and found not much to index, no metatags to speak of etc and just went off somewhere else more stocked with search terms ... If it's been up for longer than 6 weeks I'd suggest you look at the SEO ....

Incientally "Click here" is not good text for a link, in general, superflous and not beneficial for google, it also works less well for people using screen readers - imagine tabbing between links and all you get ist "click here" click here" "click here" Better if the links are informative, say "Home page" "contct us" "investment details" or better still "invest in Night Dragon" ..

Anyway I hope this second view of your sites helps ..
OG

[quote name='stingrayfan' post='18187' date='Jun 15 2007, 12:16 PM']My 100w watt Rumble used to hold its own doing small pub gigs. They do also have a balanced XLR out so you could run it into the PA for bigger ones. I got GAS though and felt the urge to upgrade![/quote]

Yeah but he's in the states where a small club bass rig is 1000 watts ...... (sorry talk like that got me chucked off US forums