JJ Bass

[quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1300477147' post='1167555'] NYJO....National Youth Jazz Orchestra [/quote] Yes, he was in NYJO, I saw him a few times with them and the late Chris Dagley on drums. They did an amazing jazz funk track on an NYJO album called Maltese Cross, its worth finding! I saw them do it live and it blew me away! I was very young at the time and was more into funk back then (still am!) and it was just stunning. BTW Mark Ong's youtube site has gone, great shame.

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1328135092' post='1522616'] If you want the best from that bass I'd get it sorted by the person who knows it best - send it to John and let him put it right!! All this second guessing isn't getting it fixed so let the man weave his magic on it - it'll be money well spent!! [/quote] Funnily enough the bass seems to be righting itself, I'm slowly day by day lowering the action and even though the action was too high on my jam vid (blisters to proove) the bass is sounding just great I'll get it to John when I can...

[quote name='BB3000S' timestamp='1328136197' post='1522633'] Hey, great playing! Great choice of song as well. [/quote] Not my best playing but great fun! thanks though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKG6Y5D7-J0 One take jam

[quote name='jdbm19' timestamp='1327951940' post='1519409'] [i][u]jonannlou[/u][/i] Where the photo of your Jaydee GA24? [/quote] see my profile Not the best pic, will do some more soon...

[quote name='Big_Stu' timestamp='1327962647' post='1519729'] +1, or at least ask your guy if he's seen many JayDees. I wasn't aware of the shorter truss-rod issue, maybe your guy isn't either but luthiers being what they are would be loathe to admit it. [/quote] I do know my local luthier had heard of Jaydee but thats it, I'll call John before I go to see him as I want it to play as it should, but its definatley much improved with the other strings.... Odd one innit!! I've been wanting a Jaydee for 20 years, so it has be 'just right'

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1327949729' post='1519344'] Yes. That would certainly explain the 'mechanics' of how the middle of the neck is pulling forward. John might know which trussrod he'd have fitted to that particular bass from the serial number. [/quote] Update! Just put on the GHS 30-90's and a huge difference??? Not sure why. They do feel heavy for 30-90 (that makes sence to me) and I've made sure I've strung them so the string is at the top of the tuning peg thing (brain gone, excuse me!) I even managed to slightly lower the action and remove one of the temporary 'shims'. D is still a bit buzzy, but its playable now! It still has no nut on the truss rod, but maybe as I've kept it in a hotter room its helped? Will try and get a YT vid up in the next few days to show the beast off a bit! I'll still take it to my local luthier as I think the action could go lower

Pics to be added soon !! I'll give John a call tomorrow, I'm visiting a local luthier who's been recommended so we'll see what happens. My mistake, thought the 18v was both both pic ups, as i had the same on my Status 3000 I'll soon have some YT vids on to give the beasty a test run, from what I've seen the only fella playing a GA24 is George himself on there.... Just going to try a set of GHS 30-90's and see if it makes a difference. Would the fact its always had heavier strings make a difference? Thanks for everyones tips )

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1327883213' post='1518386'] Nope. Truss rods work in one direction only. Tightening a truss rod pulls the neck 'back' to compensate for the tension of the strings pulling the neck forwards. Once the truss rod is fully slackened it's effectively doing nothing. [/quote] All that happens if I tighten it the mid section of the neck bows outwards a little, I just need a tad more and it looks as if it would help... Any ideas?

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1327873480' post='1518158'] Hi Jonathon Glad to hear that you got a GA24 though it must be a proper ar53ache having problems.. Got to agree with Stu - John's a top fella - give him a ring/email ([email="[email protected]"][email protected][/email]) - I'm sure that he'll come to your rescue.. [/quote] Will do tomorrow... Can the truss be adjusted once the nut is off? Ie can you make it even looser turning the truss itself? Just a though!!

thanks everyone for you help. I'll give John a call tomorrow, theres nothing that I would do that is sacridge to a Jaydee! I'm still getting quite alot of fret buzz and the action is higher than I want it, I've dug out a 90 and 70 to replace the 85 and 65 but no difference. Maybe it needs a fret dress?? Its fine past the 9th or so fret. The nut for the truss rod is basically as loose as it can be (near enough moveable with my fingers) The neck looks pretty straight, with any tension on it it will go up in the mid section.... What does the screw at the bottom of the bass do? Is it just for protection? Or it is truss rod related? I don't really want to send my bass away as its my only bass and after waiting for donkeys years to play/own one I want to do so! The 18v elecs are a dream Look forward to hearing from you all!

[quote name='BassBod' timestamp='1327795298' post='1517028'] Sounds like the nut needs to be re-cut or replaced to suit your choice of strings - raising it with a shim will do as a quick fix, but getting it out cleanly (its probably well lacquered in place!) isn't easy. Once the nut is done then concentrate on the truss rod/neck issue. Tuning the bass slightly sharp for a few days may help the neck "give" a bit and leave you with a slight bit of relief. Laminated necks can be very stiff and sometimes won't set up well with lighter strings...but its a JD, so I wouldn't expect that to be a problem! I had one a few years ago (1985/6 model) and it was very well behaved with both 35-95 strings and regular 45-105. Good luck [/quote] Just realised the E and A are 85 and 65 so might be best to find the 90-70 to give it a little more tension?? The temporary shim has worked but still have some near deap spots on the 3rd -7th frets.... Nut came out ok with no damage - phew

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1327792294' post='1516983'] The point I was clumsily trying to make is that, if this instrument [b]was[/b] one of the ones that have issues, it's potentially been 'out there' for 20 odd years and, if there was a major defect with it, it would probably have come to light and been fixed long ago. I'd use a scrap of fag packet as well, but it doesn't sound very technical when you put it like that. [/quote] Well the fag packet scrap bit has worked but its still a little 'dead spot like' between the 3rd and 7th frets, but its does sound like a Jaydee now Is the allan key bit to lower the pick ups usually a bugger to move? Might just be my old keys!! I've used 3 or 4 layers of fag-packet paper and its gone up well, I wouldn't getting a brass one put in, but are they a sod to put in? Only my old Zoot Prototype had that and it looked good and each string was adjustable Thanks for the all help by the way J

[quote name='icastle' timestamp='1327790336' post='1516955'] There were a number of Jaydees that had issues back in the late 80's but 20 years should have taken care of most of those by now. It does sound as though the nut has been cut too deep though if you're catching the first fret. If you want to check you can set it up properly before going down the replacement nut route then just slacken the strings off a little and shove a little bit of card between the nut slot and the string as a temporary shim and try setting it up again. If that works for you then replacing the nut is definately the right route to go down. HTH [/quote] I don't think this one has ever been back to Jaydee, its had one owner since 1987! I'll try a trusty bit of a fag packet to raise it up!

thanks all, I've got the truss rod 'nut' past where it can get any looser... I'm slightly reluctant to remove the nut even though I've done it other basses, just none were as expensive and salivated over by me!! I will try it though - is there a tip to removing the nut from a Jaydee as the other ones I did were far cheaper and came off very easily! I've put a 100 and 80 on and the E is still 'F' so adding tension hasn't solved it I look forward to some more tips on nutting!!!

Hi all need some 'elp! Finally got a Jaydee (GA24) - been waiting to get one for years, and I have some issues! I've just put a set of strings on (30-90 of course!) and slackend the truss rod to nothing and I still can't get the action right. The E is playing F - the nut is that low! Then it plays up the neck ok. I took it to a veteran luthier who lives down the road and all he did was raise the bridge making the strings so high it was nasty to play... If I tighten the truss up it just goes up in the middle. He suggested putting heavier strings, which for me is no good, they aren't what I use, but he thought it would create enough tension to raise the neck up. Do I need to put a slightly higher profile nut on it or.....??? I don't really want to spend out on it as I'm sure its something simple enough - has anyone else had the same problem? I know that Jaydee's are known for needing alot of truss rod attention, but I can't get it to sit right. Any help would be gratefully received Look forward to hearing from you! J