mrtcat

3 hours ago, Muzz said:

I play a lot of weddings, and no-one ever faces the band - why would they? OK, there's some who are interested for a little while, but unless you're the sort of band that puts on a show (like a tribute act), they've come to dance and have a good time with their friends, not to 'see' the band. We're just there to add the music in a live context.

Our show is pretty energetic so this is not our experience in general. It really is only the young crowds that tend to dance with their backs to us. 

2 hours ago, SICbass said:

What freaks me out about this is that it is implicit that this sort of nonsense is not infrequent. 
I left the UK in 1990 and stories like this (sometimes even worse) of punters‘ behaviour seem to be commonplace these days. Back then that would have been exceptionally poor behaviour.

It is so bad these days that it has to be written into the contract with the client that should the client or their guests interfere with the band's equipment in any way, the band reserves the right to cancel the performance immediately and no refunds will be given. Luckily not something we have had to enforce yet although we have stopped songs a few times due to crowd interference. 

On 13/11/2019 at 19:03, mrtcat said:

Can you pan stuff in your in ear mix without it being panned in the foh mix? Current band has an Allen and Heath qu16. If I could pan stuff in my in ear mix on that it would be killer.

Turns out this is really simple with the Allen and Heath desk. It's gone up a lot in my humble opinion since I worked it out.

Finally got my s**t together last month and sorted wiring so I now run in stereo. Like night and day from running mono. I'm the only one in the band using stereo and the others don't like change. Their loss.

Ordered a D-roc 5 string standard with the three pickup configuration from bass direct. Should be here next year sometime. Full bling aquamarine sparkle.

I think that younger generations have been bought up in such a different musical world that many really don't understand live music.

I've done about 100 weddings so far this year and one thing that really sticks out is how much younger crowds have been influenced by DJs and nightclub / bar music. So often we find the dancefloor is full but nobody is facing the band. Everyone is dancing in little circles of mates like they would in a club. Then when a song ends they look really unsure as to what to do? They are so used to songs being mixed together that they can't get their heads around a break in the music. They almost seem embarrassed by the pause.

Doesn't surprise me one bit that they see someone with an iPad and instantly assume that's where the music is coming from. 

Sorry sir, was collected by new owner this morning. I'll amend the post accordingly. Cheers 

45 minutes ago, CameronJ said:

Perhaps we should start an IEM porn thread?

Age is irrelevant. What you need to decide is whether you want to be in a band, if so what you want out of a band and what level of commitment you can give it. 

I'm 43, run my own company, have a wife and daughter and my wife is currently 8 months pregnant. This year I joined a really busy function band and have played over 100 weddings all over the uk including gigs in Cornwall and one in Aberdeen. I can make it work and I'm enjoying it. I had to accept that in joining such a band I had to commit 110% . I don't get to choose which gigs I want to do. Everything that comes in has to be honoured. 

I had to balance loss of family time, loss of sleep and juggling gigs plus a busy work life with the enjoyment of playing live and the significant additional income that will allow my wife to have a long maternity leave. 

Just think about what you want out of a band then decide if you can make it balance. Forget age. 

High beams on my precision. Love it to bits.

9 minutes ago, DaytonaRik said:

I can only confirm the comments from @EBS_freak  - moving from a mono IEM with my XR18 to a stereo mix from the X32 Rack is night and day - instead of the everything being sonically stacked on top of itself, making it sometimes tricky to distinguish between different instruments in the mix, the audio is now panned across the stereo image with each instrument being placed as it is on stage, with the option of bring each artist's own instrument/voice to the centre of the mix if required for added clarity and being 'dominant' in the mix without swamping the levels.  

Can you pan stuff in your in ear mix without it being panned in the foh mix? Current band has an Allen and Heath qu16. If I could pan stuff in my in ear mix on that it would be killer.

Mark made a very long and wet drive down to mine to buy my Barefaced PA system today. He made the whole sale extremely easy and was a real pleasure to deal with. Top BCer.

9 hours ago, sPiKi said:

Anyone tried the Blon BL03 IEMs?

 

I'm currently using the CCA C10s and while they do a pretty good job as my first step into IEMs, after using them for a few months now, I am finding the treble a bit harsh, even after EQing with my tone control, amp and the A&H SQ5 app. 

 

Are there any other makes and models worth considering at the budget end with a smoother sound for us bassists?

 

Also, can anyone advise on a decent reasonably priced replacement cable?

 

Thanks.

Looks like a single driver per ear. I'd definitely be far more inclined to go down the kz zs10 route.

2 hours ago, NancyJohnson said:

I've never seen these FR800 cabs before.  Does kind of open your eyes as to running a small board into the cabinet and dumping the head completely.

Any preamp, whether it be on a mixer or a pedal will run an FR800 nicely. I love using them with my helix, which is what I did for dep gigs before joining my current band. 

I'm not overly tall at 6ft1 but the two guitarists in my band are somewhat smaller at somewhere around 5ft 5 a piece.

11 hours ago, CameronJ said:

I’ve taken the plunge and ordered a set of UE6s from Custom IEM Co. 

You absolutely wont regret it. I love my UE6's 

4 hours ago, ubit said:

As I said, the op. is a new member. Or at least hasn't posted much, so his point might seem original. He asked why people relic guitars? Which is a valid question to someone who hasn't heard it before. Just because you are sick of it, don't criticise others if they don't know that the subject has been talked about many times before.

I see posts about what strings to use come up a lot but I don't moan about it. I can read new comments about the subject or, even better, I can scroll past.

Actually the way in which he asked wasn't just a polite question. He was using terms like "thrown down stairs" and "mutilated " so it was clearly just poorly veiled criticism of other people personal choices. 

It is a one trick pony. That trick is to work bloody well in a massive array of scenarios. 

7 hours ago, ubit said:

What you have to appreciate is there are new members who might not have seen the offending post. Then there are people like me who have been a member for a while but have not been on for a while for whatever reason. So when I see a new person asking which string to use, I will still give my opinion, not moan that this has been asked so many times. I think some folks need to chill and realise that some subjects are new to others.

Fine when it's a post asking for advice. Not fine when it's a post that is essentially just criticising other people's choices..........again.  

59 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

But even with external mics you're coming up against the limitations of the phone's internal sound card which, unless I'm mistaken, you don't get to bypass. 

And the low light recording ability on a phone is still not great => greater likelihood of poor quality video too for non daylight gigs. 

So I'm not sure there will be any answer in your drummer's phone price range that is going to deliver anything other than, at best, an "ok" result and if he's dead keen on the phone route then he should go in with his eyes open on that. 

This.

Although the weakest link by far in a phone's audio recording capability is the internal mic, the sound card will also likely be pretty poor also. Pick a phone with a decent low light camera and find an alternative method for recording audio if you want anything more than 'poor' in the sound quality department.

It's simple economics surely and a pointless debate. Like relic basses or not, if there wasn't demand then manufacturers wouldn't be making them. Clearly some people like them and some people don't. Life would be pretty dull if we all conformed to liking just one thing.

In that case just eq some nice low mids in, use some gentle compression, a bit of light overdrive to get some nice harmonics from the breakup and make sure that there is a good hpf on guitars so that they are not treading all over your fundamentals. 

I like to mix the bass with the kick drum first so they sit well together and then layer other instruments on top making sure to give bass plenty of sonic space of it's own.

I would keep it simple and just use a clean non eq'd di into the desk. A good engineer will then have a good clean take and will be able to run it through an amp plugin and whatever processing that he or she knows will do the business and make it sit well in the mix. 

Bass sound is very subjective and I find that a lot of guitarists tend to bury it under everything else when mixing. A decent engineer will make a world of difference.

1 hour ago, cthorpey said:

mrtcat,

Thanks for the piccy, I have ordered the G75 and for some reason I had convinced myself that the receiver couldn't go on the pedalboard.

I will have to test the IEM transmitter in the rack. It already has a wireless router and 2 other receivers.

 

Thanks for all your help

C.

Should be fine as long as you are all on different frequencies. We have 5 transmitters and a router in our rack and none of them interfere with each other. The g75 is great as you have the scan function that can be a lifesaver. 

2 hours ago, BigRedX said:

Where did you get that flight case 

I think it's this one   https://www.swanflight.com/guitarist-flightcases/pedal-board-flightcases/multi-pedal-boards/single-level-guitar-pedal-board-case-size-3.html