stitch Posted February 17, 2011 Share Posted February 17, 2011 hi, i'm looking into a mesa amp but i wonder what the difference is between a 400 and a 400+ soundwise? I've found one each in my region and the price is het same. Is the 400 better than the 400+ of is it the other way around? Which do you prefer. Of course i will test both but still, i'd like to know some background on this. Kind regards and thx for the hand, stitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitch Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 Anyone??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 Very little I suspect apart from volume, depending on whether the 400 has 6550 or 6L6GC valves. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesa_Boogie"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesa_Boogie[/url] [i]Demand for a more powerful amp led to the development of the Bass 400, which replaced the D180 in mid-1985. It used six 6550 power tubes to push out about 250 watts; however, the cascading-gain channels were replaced with two separate hi- and low-gain channels. Mesa's supply of 6550 tubes was cut short in the late 1980s and they were forced to sell the 400 with 6L6GC tubes, reducing its output to that of the D180. The solution came in early 1989 in the form of the Bass 400+. It was the same as the 400 in most respects but was powered via twelve 6L6GC tubes for nearly 360 watts of power.[/i] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted February 20, 2011 Share Posted February 20, 2011 [quote name='Crazykiwi' post='1133777' date='Feb 19 2011, 08:27 PM']Very little I suspect apart from volume, depending on whether the 400 has 6550 or 6L6GC valves. [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesa_Boogie"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesa_Boogie[/url] [i]Demand for a more powerful amp led to the development of the Bass 400, which replaced the D180 in mid-1985. It used six 6550 power tubes to push out about 250 watts; however, the cascading-gain channels were replaced with two separate hi- and low-gain channels. Mesa's supply of 6550 tubes was cut short in the late 1980s and they were forced to sell the 400 with 6L6GC tubes, reducing its output to that of the D180. The solution came in early 1989 in the form of the Bass 400+. It was the same as the 400 in most respects but was powered via twelve 6L6GC tubes for nearly 360 watts of power.[/i][/quote] 400+ will only hit around 280watts on a good day especially with a 83 in the drive position. Both amps are similar i'd go for the 400 though if the 400+ is a later one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitch Posted February 21, 2011 Author Share Posted February 21, 2011 I've found a mesa 400 (not the 400+) and he's ok with a trade with my bass terror + 420 pounds from my end. What do you think about the deal? Good price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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