EssexBuccaneer

Has anyone built one of these? 
 

https://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_bassguitar_kit_pstyle.htm

I’m contemplating buying one, and installing decent pups and pots (assuming the kit ones are naff). Am a bit concerned about the finish though - painting isn’t my strong suit, so maybe a nice varnish/stain.

I’ve got my Orange Crush 100 in my bass corner, with my basses on a nearby stand for quick access. Nice set of cans for quiet practice. Tend to plug in my wireless and get going in a few moments.

I tend not to use my pedals for home practice - only for rehearsal and (obvs) gigs.

8 hours ago, Hobbayne said:

Well, In 40 years of playing, Tonight is a first. We were booked to play The Brickhouse in Slough. The first rock band to play there apparently. Its more of a soul R+B DJ place.

We went down really well with the older crowd, but when it came to paying us, we were told 'Sorry but people have not spent enough behind the bar so we cant pay you the full agreed amount' 

Our singer is practically fuming with rage and trying to sort it out. I have heard of this happening to others, but this is the first time I have been shafted.

I,m having a few large scotches to calm me down. 🤬

I *may* have just submitted a tripadvisor review…

“No problem, we’ll tell everyone on social media what a sh**house operation you are, and use our contacts to make sure that all the bands in the area know it as well. By the way, you still owe us the agreed amount”

On 04/04/2024 at 01:39, Gasman said:

Last night’s gig was one I never anticipated, wanted, but felt compelled and eventually pleased to do. My son died three weeks ago suddenly from a second heart attack a week after having stents for the first one, seems the surgeon did half a job. Julian was 46, three kids, fitness fanatic, my best friend, top DJ and drummer

 

Today was his funeral. His widow had booked an acoustic duo for the wake in the local pub. However, the girl singer had to leave early for some reason; the landlord knew I played and pointed me out to the remaining guitarist/singer suggesting I might help, so as my gear was in my car I played bass and sang with him for the second set.

 

It was good distraction therapy, busking 15 numbers I’d never played before with a guy I’d never met. Despite this glimmer of light in a dark, dark day I’ll never be able to rationalise why I’m still here at 74 to write this while he will never read it. 

 

Parents shouldn’t have to bury their children...

Wow. I can’t imagine the emotions involved there. I’m blown away by your strength.
 

I’m so very sorry for your loss

Last night something was….off. Can’t put my finger on it. We played our first set (60 mins), then twiddled with some of the newer material ready for a gig in May, but I dunno, the whole night lacked *something*. 
 

Even watching the videos back today it sounds half-hearted. Bizarre.

The frankly laughable unbranded pickups on this project reached the point of irritation at rehearsal last week, as the bass was *so* much quieter than my other basses. So with a little help from next day delivery I was quickly able to get my hands on some Fender noiseless pups. 
 

Despite being a less then stellar solderer, it’s all working fine and packs a lot more punch. I also threw on some black beauties and am wondering what to do next. Perhaps some new tuners…

2 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

You might hate it, but I wouldn't describe it as dull. It has some interesting segments in it as recorded, as do most John Deacon bass lines.

Dull is subjective. It’s a plodding, low energy song.

I don’t despise Queen (whilst also not being a fan) - they have far better songs to choose IMO.

Am currently learning We Are The Champions because my guitarist thinks it’ll be a great singalong anthem to slot in the set. 
 

I hate it. It’s dull, and it won’t work with our 90’s rock/metal/grunge thing. It’s going to stick out like a sore thumb. I’m having a mental block over it, presumably because I hate it so much. 
 

I can sense a band discussion on the horizon.

3 hours ago, Paul S said:

 

So how did that happen?  You can't just ring up Chinnerys at the last minute and get a gig?  Curious - I'd love to get my lot a gig there.

Was going to ask the same thing!

Great rehearsal tonight with some new material as we’re in a gig-desert at the moment.

The Rasmus - In the shadows
Linkin Park - One Step Closer

Tom Petty - Love is a long Road (shamelessly cashing in on the GTA6 popularity!)

All were nailed well, surprised at how good Linkin Park sounded, I think we all expected it to fall down horrendously, but pleasantly surprised!

Maybe, just maybe, we’re getting tight

The project I’ve always wanted to do would be a covers band, with the stipulation that none of the songs should be ‘hits’ - album tracks only. 
 

And another idea for a covers band, but only play songs that are 6-7 mins or longer (yes, I listen to a lot of Iron Maiden!)

Good rehearsal tonight, we’re adding Kenny Loggins ‘Danger Zone’ to our set because we’re playing The Vulcan Restoration Trust beer festival next year (in a hanger, with the Vulcan bomber as centrepiece 😎) and we wanted something suitable for the gig….

First runthroughs with a backing track sounded alright. Decided to try to without, and preferred it - so that’s how we’ll do it. The backing track was fine but it didn’t sound like ‘us’.

Friday night at The Papillon in Southend, after a nightmare week trying to find a PA hire. Long story, we were told by a singer of another band that we can use his - before he backtracked 4 days before our gig. We suspect it was never ‘his’ to begin with…

Anyhoo we played ok, few mistakes here and there, some not so noticeable, one or two very noticeable on some new tracks (Sabotage and Higher) but we had a good crowd dancing and singing along all night, and another encore request. We’re happy with the way it went down. Rebooking might be a problem as they’re booked every Friday in 2024 already so we’re on the cancellations list and hoping for them to start Saturday night gigs (as they’ve been mooting for a while now).

Great crowd, good sound and decent pay. Hard to grumble.

10 minutes ago, ahpook said:

God made me do it.

Lemmy told you?

I was never inspired to play bass - I was a teenage guitarist. Strictly rhythm, as the song goes. Always wanted to be a shredding lead player like Dimebag, but never had the chops. 
 

Anyways, I was playing guitar in a band and socialising on the local live scene every week, when one of the bands that had befriended me lost their bass player with a gig imminent - they asked me to step in (I had no bass, no amp, nothing). We all chipped in and got me some cheap gear, I learned the 30 min set (root notes only!) and we were off to the races! I relied on my energy and ‘presence’ over musicianship in those early days (and probably still do!)

After giving up gigging for *many* years due to shift work, I eventually found myself in management with a regular 9-5, and wanted to get back into playing. I once again picked up the guitar. Still frustrated at my lack of widdlyness, I returned to the bass ‘for a few hours’ to relax. Whaddya know? The four-stringer felt like an old friend, like I’d never left.

A month or so later I was rehearsing for the band I’m now in.

On 23/11/2023 at 10:36, Jackroadkill said:

As much as I love the music he made with Pantera, Superjoint Ritual and Down, I can't listen to anything by Phil Anselmo any more.  It breaks my heart, but the White Power stain can't be rinsed out.

Hard agree. I loved Pantera growing up, but that association ruined everything for me.

On 22/11/2023 at 21:14, Mudpup said:

Is it a bar in/near Brentwood, Essex by any chance?

 

It’s in Basildon, in the town square. Obvs I won’t name the venue, but its reputation for live music is less than stellar.

22 hours ago, uk_lefty said:

I think the stage your band is at is the key here. If I was still getting a band off the ground and everyone was available without too much inconvenience I'd probably do the gig. Reason being you can iron out a lot of issues, even things like why the PA is making that hissing noise, how to set up quickly or different venues, all the boring stuff, as well as working on your act: song endings, new songs, how to get the four punters tapping their feet, how you respond to requests etc. You say you haven't got a following but if you want to turn down small gigs how will you earn the following to get you in the door for the bigger gigs? I know I'm being very idealistic here but it's hard work building up a band and takes a lot of ups and downs. 

Yeah that’s why I’m in a quandary, we’ve had great feedback from the gigs we’ve played, and had no trouble keeping the crowd happy. It feels like we’ve made huge strides given the newness of the band (as individuals we have plenty of experience, but as a foursome we’re brand new). 
 

As others have said, I think if we were an originals band trying to make a go of things, we’d have played it. As a covers band who are pretty comfortable who we are, and the value of performance we bring - I’m wary of underpricing ourselves and other bands in the area. 

We turned a gig down yesterday, the first one we’ve turned away. We have four gigs under our belt and all have gone well, we’ve received glowing feedback and got repeat bookings. We’re really pleased with the progress we’ve made in our first 9 months together.

Yesterday we were asked to play a local venue on a Thursday night between Christmas and new year - the venue is known for having no crowds, and pay is a share of the bar takings. Usually pitiful (under £50). So we said we’ve no interest. 
 

I’ve woken this morning feeling a bit poorly and I’m second guessing the decision - on the one hand we’re a new band who want to get all the experience we can, but on the other hand we know we can’t bring a following yet (because we haven’t built one up!) and it’s soul destroying to play to an empty room for no money.
 

Are we really in a position to be turning gigs away, even if they’re a guaranteed waste of a night? 
 

At what point did your bands start saying ‘sorry, we’re better than that venue’?

I started playing guitar at 13-14, teaching myself with books borrowed from the library. My best mate was a lead guitarist (and a great one at that, one of those annoying ‘naturals’ 😀). He joined a band with some dudes I didn’t know when we were 17, and after their first gig they asked me to join as rhythm guitarist. It didn’t last long because he had to go away to uni but I was out most weekends watching and befriending local bands - one of whom had a sudden need for a bass player. I had never played bass, didn’t own a bass and knew nothing about bass. So obviously I joined!

Learned bass ‘on the job’ by following what the guitarist was doing, then growing in confidence and adding my own flourishes. 

Broadening this topic, because that’s what my brain does to everything - what importance does an identity have to covers band? We could play all the generic hits all the time, and probably please a large number of people whilst also alienating a chunk of the public who loathe pop music, and also probably playing a load of stuff that the band itself don’t like.

Or alternatively play niche material that appeals to a smaller fanbase which will potentially be more loyal and travel to see you. Would probably be a more fulfilling/satisfying band to play in, but at the risk of fewer gigs.

Personally speaking I don’t think I could play in a wedding/functions band - it’s just not my thing, regardless of how good the pay is or how solid the summer bookings are. It’d just drive me nuts to play a load of stuff that I don’t enjoy.

We have AIC in our set, which is predominantly 90’s and 00’s rock/metal. We have our little niche, and the idea of sticking in something purely because the punters will enjoy it is anathema to me - it’s got to be a song that the whole band want to play. 
 

That’s not to say that the audience reaction isn’t important, it definitely is. Green Day’s Longview is on the bubble at the moment because the crowd seems to lose a bit of interest during it - so we may replace it. Now we could easily play Basket Case instead and get a guaranteed crowd reaction - but that would make us like every other covers band in the world, so we’re not doing it.

You have to enjoy what you’re doing, because (IMO) money isn’t enough to get me out of the house and onto the stage. I’ve got to love the songs I play, and that translates into a better performance, which in turn gives your crowd a better night. 

3 hours ago, Greg Edwards69 said:

Much like @EssexBuccaneer last week, I had some good Southend based gig news last night.

 

Last week, the Cow & Telescope, one of the best cover band venues in the area, who we played for the first time last month, asked if we were available on 23 December. Unfortunately, we were already booked at a sports bar elsewhere so did the right thing and turned them down to honour our commitment. 

 

Yesterday, apparently some "top card" boxing matches were announced for 23 December. Being a sports bar, they realise their usual punters would be mightily upset if they didn't show the boxing and had a band playing instead. So they have postponed our booking until next year.

 

We enquired whether the other option was still available, and it's now ours  What a stroke of luck. It's all fallen into place in our favour without upsetting anyone.

 

A coveted spot at one of the best music pubs in Southend on a Saturday evening, two days before Christmas. It's going to be a belter!

Mate, that’s great news! Would love to get in there! (I’m sure it’ll happen, we’re in danger of running before we walk - we’ve only played 4 gigs). Congratulations!

I’m on-call that week, unfortunately so can’t get down - but sometime soon.

51 minutes ago, Dad3353 said:

Take them all, and swap basses at every song change. If possible have a 'tech' bring you the next bass between numbers, so that folk notice that you've swapped basses. Be a rock star. 

I’ve got 3 gigging basses for 3 different tunings in our set. 
 

I don’t yet have a tech to bring me the next bass, but maybe one day 😆