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[quote name='ped' post='862779' date='Jun 9 2010, 11:50 PM']So which of mine is the Line6?

To be honest I think most people don't spend enough time learning how to get the best out of them. I was the same - heard them at shows and couldn't get anything but fuzz and crap out of them and totally wrote them off. I was given an XT Pro in a deal and thought I would instantly sell it on, assuming it would sound horrible. After spending weeks and weeks learning the ins and outs of the thing I started to find that it really could do anything you wanted if you knew how to approach getting that sound. It needed to be teamed up with a poweramp and decent speaker, obviously, as does any amplifier, but as a pre-amp I think it's amazing.

I still prefer the Vbass for its unique functions but this whole digital VS analogue thing is completely beyond me, at least, having owned the best of both camps and ending up sounding the same with all of them.

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yeah, to each his own, I've heard some great POD tones (meshuggah's for instance is tight as hell). I'm not sure on the model names, but the new line 6 guitar amps in my local music shop are very impressive, at first. after a while of playing, though, something resonates in my head which is just nauseating, and I start hearing the digital tones after a lot of sustained notes and bends. the cleans are very glossy and nice to listen to at first, but it's the same as the distortion, after a while it gets a bit much and you start hearing the little nuances.

congrats man, that's such an achievement. I also live near carpenders park, you know across the sh*tline... south oxhey... you should give me bass lessons sometime!

holy crap mate, unearth are godly.

for me, a passive jazz bass and an ampeg is all I ever need. change the mids when needed and I'm ready to go. I might be bit of a purist deep down, and I would be willing to give amp modeling a go, but i know it would never feel right. I've never heard a good line 6 guitar amp, and I've played on loads. the tones sound too glossy and plastic.

what in the hell is this? why am I so intrigued to the point of wanting one?

time to get really silly

started off with guitar, then started listening to fusion and became obsessed with groove so naturally I switched to bass. not saying all guitarists are like this, but I wasn't really happy jamming with other guitarists, very few really cared about the rhythm and instead always concentrated on filling every empty space with mindless jamming. this is okay in some instances, such as Allan Holdsworth, players like that really care about rhythm/phrasing and melodicism (making words up now) and are a pleasure to listen to, but for the most part, playing the guitar just doesn't turn me on anymore.

if i were ever to go back to the guitar, this is the kind of stuff i would wanna be playing:

[quote name='Bilbo' post='837868' date='May 15 2010, 07:04 AM']Who were the players, dp?[/quote]

the guitarist is Lewis Turner, not sure about the drummer or bassist, sorry.

went to a jazz bar on wednesday to see my guitar tutor's jazz fusion band play, and I've got to admit that they played some of the best jazz I've ever heard. the bassist was out of this world, along the lines of jaco (no exaggeration) and the drummer was probably the best I've ever seen. half way into red baron they got into some heavy metric modulation, it made your heart skip a beat... they came back into the main riff and everyone was gobsmacked. I really don't understand how if the bassist pushed a note, the drummer followed, like just off the cuff... so yeah, if they had an album, that would be my top.

got all the way up to 22, but it's extremely quiet.

my ears don't seem to like the sound of mids, just sounds horrible. I like messing with EQ but I can't get away from the fact that my bass sounds great with everything at 5. slight treble boost if needed, but that's generally all I ever have to do.

good example of the tone is the fingers. you can tell he's spent a lot of time getting his right hand technique down, something which I need to work on.

Depends on how good the PA and amp is. The one in the band room I go to sounds like complete cack, the one in the performance hall in college sounds luscious.

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my hands must be made for slap bass, after hearing 'glide' by Pleasure (one of the reasons I picked up the bass in the first place..) I thought I'd give it a go and it worked. my technique hasn't really evolved much since then, it feels like my hands just do it naturally. I haven't learned double thumbing or any of the more advanced stuff because... it sounds like cack.

There's gotta be some heavy fusion grooves you just listen to, can't help but focus on the drums and bass and be aroused...

insane...


not my favourite bass line, but an amazing song and groove all the same


This thread has probably been done in a similar way before, but I'd like to narrow it down to jazz fusion, as for me that's when the real sh*t happens.

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got kicked out my own gig for being under 18, was pretty funny. the bouncer literally pushed me and my cousin out and we were trying to decide whether it was real or if we were dreaming. he had no expression on his face whatsover as we yelled "what the fu*k?!".

If you write something and it becomes a number 1 hit, I don't think that it makes you a "genius"... it makes you good at song writing no doubt, maybe even just lucky...

"Genius" is a stupid throwaway term, I've used it a few times and it didn't particularly mean anything. If something is so "genius" why aren't you sitting back and enjoying it, and instead thinking of stupid adjectives for it?

[quote name='dudewheresmybass89' post='818161' date='Apr 25 2010, 04:23 PM']Dance Of Eternity by Dream Theater, I'm learning it at the moment and it's bloody difficult!

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhedP71N9gQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhedP71N9gQ[/url][/quote]

how about the solo section in the dark eternal night? now that's something else...

Used to find the 7/8 part in this pretty hard, but it becomes easy when you start feeling it instead of thinking about it.

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[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='817651' date='Apr 24 2010, 10:25 PM']Pop tunes can be awesome. They're written in mind of having people tapping their foot and finding them catchy, it's one of the few types of music that's written solely for the listener.

Stuff like the Joe Duran "song" posted above bores the hell outta me. Each to their own though, variety makes the world go around etc but if that was the only type of music going, I definitely wouldn't have any interest in listening and I'd probably soon give up playing. It just strikes me as musicians massaging their own ego instead of trying to create something that's enjoyable just for the sake of being enjoyable. It's like a geeky in joke that has to be thought about so hard that it's not funny any more to me.[/quote]

That's fair, if you're tapping your foot and it's catchy, you're connecting with the music which makes just as legit as any other genre, and although I don't like it, I'll give it that much. I just think that if you give stuff like that "song" a chance, you can go so much deeper than just tapping your foot...

I also agree about the AC/DC comment, sometimes you just wanna blast it out on full volume and jump about, but that can only last for so long...

[quote name='Buzz' post='817642' date='Apr 24 2010, 10:11 PM']+1

The music is alright, not a style I like, but alright. The lyrics are gash though in my view.[/quote]

They're marketable which appears to be all that matters. That's what [b]makes[/b] it not my thing. Some of the hooks may be inspired, it could easily be a good tune, but given the context (the generic beat, horrible lyrics and singing, over-production etc) they just don't mean a thing to me. Again, just IMHO.