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I know the Hoppus bass had a p bass neck etc. Perhaps somwhere in between might be nice, tempted to go full jazz? 

It's a lovely looking bass! I've a strong preference for the standard jass pickguard and three hole control plate however. The driver is to achieve a bass with the look and feel of a Jazz Bass (minus bridge pickup) but the with sound of a 51 single coil. I'd contemplated a Mark Hoppus bass but prices seem to be climbing, then thought may aswell get an American P, but having previously owned a few and not quite finding the colour combo etc I think I'm going to try this custom build with the single coil as opposed to split etc. Fingers crossed! Just what neck to purchase... 

9 hours ago, kodiakblair said:

I know quite a few lads over in Germany rate guitarbuild highly.

I think I'm going to give them a go! Also I'll have a go at the nitrocellulose paint finish myself. Shoreline a gold here we come

Just by way of an update. Contacted warmoth and the are happy to make what I'm after, just by adding notes in the online order. They have been very helpful! Only thing is I've happened across https://www.guitarbuild.co.uk/ and they appear to do exactly what I'm after. Anyone any experience with these guys? 

6 hours ago, Doctor J said:

The standard contemporary Fender body has this rather appalling route under the scratchplate. With this, you really just need a modified scratchplate as there is enough wood missing to comfortably drop a 51 pickup in there in the correct position. 

https://www.muziker.ie/fender-jazz-bass-body-vintage-bridge-brown-sunburst?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIu6a65uLe7gIVo-jtCh06nQ3JEAQYASABEgItufD_BwE

Truth be told, though, there's not a huge difference between the 51 single coil and the regular Jazz single coil pickup. Another option would be to get a Jazz sized 4-pole neck pickup made. There are enough custom pickup makers out there who could make a 4 pole 51 spec pickup which fits in to a standard Jazz sized cover.

I didn't know that! Very interesting! 

5 hours ago, LeftyJ said:

https://rs-guitarworks.myshopify.com/collections/basses/products/contour-bass-54 

Probably the inspiration behind the Squier Parallel Universe Jazz Bass '54 (which has J pickups instead of SCPB's).

Interesting looking bass that! 

Ok so my hunt for an American PB has draw a blank currently. Thought I'd investigate building my own bass. I like both JB's and PB's particulary the feel and look of a JB both neck and body but the sound of PB. Well that said the split coil of a PB just seems a tad restrained. Happened across some sound clips of a 51. Sounds like what I'm looking for so got onto the warmoth website. No option for a JB body with a 51 pickup cut? If I'm reading it correctly. Anyone done this or know of someone who has? Seems little info etc

1 hour ago, 4000 said:

I had an SMX and used an SMX combo too but IMO neither came close to my very early 11 band AH150, although both were very good. The AH150 was just the nuts tonally. 

Very interesting, can you describe the difference at all? Thanks 

I thought the difference between the ss and valve pre was certainly noticeable, but not for coaxing driven valve sounds etc. I'll keep an eye out for one of these amps as I think, although my abdominal muscles would rejoice if I turned to a class d amp, there's just something I'm missing from them... Not sure why! 

Yes I had a trace combo years ago featuring a blendable pre and compressor if I remember correctly. I thought it was a lovely amp but the enclosure was just a little constrained at volume. Recently picked up an old trace 1153, i.e.the smaller ported 1x15, to help get down to the correct ohmage for a peavey alpha bass head I picked up and thought I might look into a trace head for a more gigable option! 

Please can anyone advise what version of Trace bass heads featured the blendable solid and valve preamp? And what wattages were available? 

Thanks 

I read that some of the American Deluxe models came in at just shy of 8lbs but I can't seem to find any weight info from fender? 

Although I love playing my Musicman Sub it is somewhat of a weighty beast. Are there any lightweight Fender Jazz or Precision models out there? Thinking of putting together a new lightweight gig rig etc. Thanks 

43 minutes ago, TheGreek said:

Have you tried here?

https://britishaudio.com/collections/trace-elliot-parts

Sadly there seem to have sold out

I don't suppose anyone one has an idea where I can purchase the plastic, trace elliot stamped, surround to the bass ports they used to use on pretty much every cab and combo? Or is a second hand find the only option now? 

Thanks 

50 minutes ago, Acebassmusic said:

 

I may read this wrong but for me if you have a small studio setup getting an 810 in there would be overkill and / or deafening! I think there is a little bit of confusion on the Peavey outputs, they are minimum ohms not max. When it says 4ohm output it means you can plug a single or combination of 4, 8, 16 ohm etc cabs in with no probs. I think that if your happy with your current amp and cab just plug in and play away. This does however mean that you lose an excuse for GAS!

I do get confused with ohms and the like I must confess! Lol your probably right regards an 8x10. Although they are ridiculously cheap at the mo with the new wave of lightweight cabs! Also, even at very low volume there is somthing trouser flapping about being stood in front of a fridge when just practicing

8 minutes ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said:

With valves the cab impedance should be equal to or lower than the tap rated load. With SS the cab impedance should be equal to or greater than the head rated minimum load.

Bill, so in this case I do indeed need a load of 4ohms or lower? i.e. I can't just plug my 8ohm cab into this all valve head (SS rectifier).

5 hours ago, Lozz196 said:

I used one on tour last year and really liked it. I do however have a twangy/driven tone so was able to achieve the twang & grind easily whilst the HLFs natural lows stayed really prominent. I can see that someone wanting a traditional bass tone might find the low-end a tad overpowering though. 

Sounds like it might fit the bill for me. I'm a pick player. Like a slightly more driven sound with warm lows and a present twang!

6 hours ago, Jazzjames said:

I found those cabs pretty woeful, but the ones I’ve used were always hired in and may have been ragged to death... I play an Ampeg amp And love the sound but a lot of their products from the last years have relied on the name, and have not been of good design in my humble opinion.
 If you’re dead set on Ampeg, then just try that cab. If it works for you, awesome! I’d never want to move around something that big ever again, when there are more modern cabs from Greenboy, Barefaced, Genz Benz etc. that offer more spl, which sounds more focussed, in a more compact and lightweight package.

 

Is your current cab 2 ohms?

It's not really going to be moved around this cab. Will spend most of its life in my little bedroom studio setup. I could stick a 810 in there and it wouldn't take up anymore space etc. Interesting question about the ohm rating. I might have got myself confused here. Current cabs 8ohm. I've 4 and 2ohm outs on the new, well old Peavey Alpha Bass valve head. Can I run a single 8ohm load into this? 

So, I've changed out my studio bass amp. Problem being the new runs a max 4ohm load. It looks like my current 4x10 is going to get the boot, unless I purchase another cab. However, I could probably get my mits on an Ampeg SVT 410 HLF from an old band member. Tiny snag is its not USA made, it Vietnamese. Its not so much the origin of manufacture that I'm concerned with, but the differences between the cabs. I understand the Vietnam one is quite a bit lighter, using poplar ply etc. Has anyone played both or has anyone just got a view on this particular cab? I used to run a USA SVT 210HE & 115 and thought they were great. I seem to remember playing a 410 HLF in a store years ago and it sounding very dark indeed. Any thoughts? 

1 hour ago, Cat Burrito said:

I originally had an SP210 cab back around 2011, loved it, got loads of comments but ultimately sold it as I was always always doing kit share gigs so it was a lot of cash to lie idle. I missed it a lot so ahead of a long UK tour in 2019 re-bought the SP212 and did 2 full UK tours with it. I used it with two pro bands and everyone raved about it. My drummer is loud but in bigger venues it all gets mic'd up anyway. Everyone is different but I LOVE Orange & would always recommend them. I now have the OBC115 and OBC410 cabs too but that is as much for the visual at the larger venues. The SP212 still comes out regularly. 

Interesting! In a purely practice situation do you feel you could be heard with a SP212? I wouldn't be expecting miracles etc

4 hours ago, Bankai said:

I had one of the SP cabs and it could never keep up and wasn’t what I’d hoped it’d be. I too had been drawn in by the aesthetic but was let down. The OBC410 and 810 are great, and I’d expected that to translate to the SP as well but sadly not. I suppose it’d have its place and fulfil certain roles but a loud alt-Rock band was not one of those.
 

For about the same money, I now have a second hand Barefaced 210S which is infinitely better both in tone and volume, and sounds great for rock style bass. Plus, it’s even lighter to the point I can lift it with one finger. 

Feedback most appreciated! I'll have to look into these Barefaced cabs! 

Ok I'm not going to lie I'm really drawn to the look of the orange brand aesthetic Those that own one or have experience of playing one can you share? Specifically volume for a loud indie rock band set up in a rehearsal situation? Two guitarists with 30watt vox / 40watt fender combos etc. Also what are they like to move around? I hurt my abdomen a few years back, so the days of single handedly moving heavy cabs is just not an option

6 hours ago, BigRedX said:

For modern bass cabs the cone size of the speaker(s) is probably the least important specification.

Interesting, can you expand a little? Are we taking power rating / sensitivity / frequency response etc? 

Ok, I might just have been one of those who drove round in his youth with subwoofers in the boot of his car.10's always seemed a little light and a 15 couldn't keep up... But 12's seemed just perfect. My first home made bass guitar cab featured 12's, but with branded gear I've not tried them, not once. Anyone with experience to share?