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27 minutes ago, 4000 said:

I’d love to hear a comparison between a HH Stingray and a Wal. Somebody set that up!

Me too but I believe the pickups are in the wrong positions, especially the neck pickup.

I listened to isolated tracks of "Under the Bridge" and to me it also sounds like the fretless Stingray. Especially the ending.

On 23/09/2021 at 07:58, andruca said:

Stingray? In your face yet the most mix friendly (pretty "rustic" when playing on your own really, not that pleasant, but shines in any band mix).

”Rustic” is a fun term that could apply to P basses as well!

11 hours ago, Al Krow said:

I'd personally have the P34 on solo bridge pup for slap, rather than the more mid scooped PJ setting, but that's a personal preference. 

The bridge pickup slap is a cool unique sound too, like on “thank you for letting me be mice elf” by Sly Stone. Of course, neck pickup slap sounds awesome as well. That’s for another poll…

14 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Thanks for posting that! Enjoyed that a lot.

 

Just to understand the base line:

Were the strings identical in terms of make / model and the same age on all three basses?

Which pup settings did you have the basses on and were the EQs all set flat?

Both pickups on jazz and BB. Tone controls were 100% up on Jazz and BB. Treble and bass on the Ray4 were slightly past middle position I would say. Ernie ball slinky strings on all three, The Ray had the oldest, and the Jazz the newest. But no string set were too old or brand new out of the package.

Jazz, BB, and Ray4 slap tones:

On 02/09/2021 at 20:52, AndyTravis said:

 

Tony Wilson:
What're you doing?

Martin Hannett:
Recording silence!

Tony Wilson:
Recording silence?

Martin Hannett:
No, I'm recording Tony f***ing Wilson!

 

brilliant film.

Anyone who has not yet seen it, go watch it right now!

Alanis Morrisette-”Ironic”

Does anybody know what kind of bass Rocco Palladino is playing here?

As a side note to this I also really want to recommend the SD replacement pickup for the Ray4. Such a huge difference for so little money.

In case this interests anyone!

I think the position of the pickup is a very big part of the sound. A Stingray pickup for example is placed a bit further from the bridge as well as being a humbucker. Check out some Sandberg demos, they have a humbucker in the J bridge position.

I can really recommend the Seymour Duncan for a more typical MM sound compared to the sub.

I made this short comparison. The Seymour Duncan is available for 5 strings also.

I made this short comparison with both clean DI sound and amp sim sound to test the difference between the PJ and JJ configuration.

4 hours ago, mcnach said:

 

we must be listening to different clips, there's tons of growl! 

 

You might be since I’ve added another clip!😁

I made another one, this time with the Ray4 preamp boosted just a bit (bass and treble just a tiny bit boosted). Also threw in my P bass because why not? 

There is quite a weight range on Fenders so look around for a light one. On a side note, my Sterling Sub Ray4 is very light and it seems most of the new ones are, so if you like that sound there is hope there as well. Also if balance is an issue light jazz basses balances a bit better than P’s due to the offset in my experience.

A jazz type bass and the wal actually sounds almost exactly the same through a gk like amp setup. Check this sound test between wal and yamaha bb604 basses playing a Flea bass line: https://www.talkbass.com/threads/wal-tone-for-320-the-answer-is.1475984/

It sounds much more similar than I would have thought but there it is. I think a big part of the BSSM sound is actually the amp.

Thanks, looks like the D Lakin shark is the winner!

What is this? Looks a bit like a music man but different headstock and single coils?

https://www.instagram.com/p/CItCmYbpAOu/?igshid=1q706f5eu1f98

Which tone do you guys prefer? The jazz, wal thing or the slightly “tighter” ray or modulus sound? To me he sort of goes back and forth between them on different albums.

Pros use the same stuff everybody else uses in my experience. Everything from really cheap to expensive stuff. Sound wise it does not really matter in the end.

20 minutes ago, gjones said:

Can I ask if that's a Sterling Ray 4 you're playing, or a USA Musicman Stingray?

They both sound great.

It’s the Sterling Ray4!

2 minutes ago, 4000 said:

Interesting. I expected the Ray to sound more aggressive, but it’s much more polite, as I measure these things. Love the Ray slap sound though, always have. 

The Ray has more high end on tap if you boost the treble more though, but yes the jazz sure has a lot of high end going on. And I did not even have the tone all the way up!