Bill Fitzmaurice

[quote name='Machines' post='909507' date='Jul 29 2010, 01:16 PM']You bought an Ashdown for something more reliable ? Hahahaha... think of Ashdown as the bass equivalent of Alfa Romeo.[/quote]
Does Alfa use Lucas Lighting?
In college we always bought MGs in pairs. One to drive, one for the shop.

[quote name='3V17C' post='909247' date='Jul 29 2010, 09:02 AM']yeah could do that.. was just thinking that i won't get the full 575watts then though with an 8ohm cab on each ?....[/quote]
Moot.

[quote name='Shire' post='901067' date='Jul 21 2010, 11:51 AM']the smaller the better and my band play loud![/quote]And there's the rub. Where loud bass is concerned there's no replacement for displacement, and that means big cabs, not small. The only way to get around the need for many drivers is with fewer high displacement drivers, like the Eminence 3012LF and 3015LF as used in Barefaced. What you trade off there is sensitivity, so what you achieve in going smaller is done at the expense of needing more power. Your amp should do for them, though.

[quote name='3V17C' post='908906' date='Jul 29 2010, 04:18 AM']I'm guessing its fine to just use one power stage with two 8 ohm cabs (thus making 4 ohms) and leaving the other power stage unconnected will be fine?[/quote]
I'd run a cab with each amp. That way the current load is shared by both power amps rather than being a burden to only one.

[quote name='fatgoogle' post='908549' date='Jul 28 2010, 02:11 PM']Yep you want 16ohms. It means if both drivers are 150 watts youll get a 300 watt cab while 4 ohms wired to 8 means youll only have a 150 watt cab. I think this is right anyway.[/quote]
150 + 150 equals 300, series or parallel. What differs is the voltage and current division, not power.
As to 4 ohm drivers series versus 16 ohm drivers parallel, there will be very little difference electrically. There can be a major difference mechanically, due to different voice coil lengths. You want to use the option that has the higher xmax and xlim specs.

[quote name='dannybuoy' post='904778' date='Jul 25 2010, 10:03 AM']I didn't know the actor who played Jesus in Passion Of The Christ got struck by lightning twice on set[/quote]I'm wondering what he did to so piss off God, and why God's aim is so poor to have missed him twice!

[quote name='Mark Percy' post='904338' date='Jul 24 2010, 04:34 PM']speakon connectors have greater surface area connectivity as opposed to phono jacks.

thicker cables, like 4.5 have less resistance than thin cables.[/quote]
Use Speakon, yes. But no one uses phono jacks for speakers anyway. For the lengths we use to connect amps and speakers wire more than 14ga/1.9mm is a waste of copper, and money. Here again your post is rife with errors. I don't know who you're trying to impress with all these posts full of piffle, other than yourself, but IMO they're a total waste of board bandwidth.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='903695' date='Jul 23 2010, 07:46 PM']compiling a huge amount of wrong into a single essay is weird.[/quote]Clearly you are unfamiliar with Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin, who have made doing just so into a very comfortable living.

[quote name='redstriper' post='903476' date='Jul 23 2010, 01:45 PM']He did not say anything about the cab AFAIK - he said "blasted low/mid sound that all neodymium speakers have".
That statement is simply wrong, it may have prompted a pontless change of driver and certainly would put anybody off neo drivers.
It's the kind of blanket BS that gives sound engineers a bad name and if it wasn't for this forum the OP would still believe it.[/quote]+1, and since the majority of high end pro-touring PA cabs have been loaded with neo drivers for over a decade now it's hardly an understandable gaffe.

[quote name='Mark Percy' post='903463' date='Jul 23 2010, 01:31 PM']new power piston high wattage drivers are wholly unsuitable, and require vast wattage headroom to get them moving. and are insensitive and unmusical.[/quote]
Totally unequivocally untrue, as is the rest of your post. Nothing said has any basis in engineering fact, I'm afraid.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='901725' date='Jul 22 2010, 06:00 AM']there are a whole bunch of other properties that are a whole bunch of other properties a speaker will have, and will have changed.[/quote]
There are a number of properties that [i]may[/i] be changed with neo, because the smaller motor structure allows it. But they don't have to be changed. Transducer engineers are quite capable of making neo drivers that precisely duplicate the response of ceramics; the fact that for the most part they don't do so is because they don't [i]want[/i] to. My friends in the engineering dept. at Eminence are totally pleased with neo because it allows them to do things they always wanted to do with ceramic but couldn't, the main difference being longer throw capability, allowing more low frequency output.

[quote name='machinehead' post='901507' date='Jul 21 2010, 07:40 PM']Show me how the magnet material can be heard differently from another magnet material.

Frank[/quote]It can't. The same argument was proffered when AlNiCo replaced field coils, and then when ceramic replaced AlNiCo. And it's just as fallacious now. Flux is flux.

[quote name='umph' post='899112' date='Jul 19 2010, 11:33 AM']thats your problem there the bright box isn't really gonna keep up with the ampeg is it in terms of output![/quote]
It's more than just a sensitivity issue. Assuming that it only uses a high pass filter a goodly portion of the frequencies that should be diverted away from the woofers and into the mids are still going to the woofers. That very much fouls up the program right there, and as I recall Trace had the drivers horizontally arrayed, furthering the damage.
Using dedicated mid drivers is a very good idea, but if not properly implemented any good idea can be all for naught.

[quote name='ianSB' post='898288' date='Jul 18 2010, 02:02 PM']im using it with a 610 hlf[/quote]A 610HLF is adequate to say the least, so if you're not able to compete with the drummer and guitar'd players they're too damn loud.

[quote name='ianSB' post='898234' date='Jul 18 2010, 12:53 PM']my ampeg svt450 seems to be underpowered :S its not competing at all with the guitars and drummer and its pretty much cranked
i was just wondering what could be the problem[/quote]
Probably not enough speakers to make use of that power.

[quote name='bobpalt' post='897894' date='Jul 18 2010, 06:30 AM']he said no, that wasnt the problem, it was that "blasted low/mid sound that all neodymium speakers have"... I have to admit I had absolutely no idea what he was talking about![/quote]
That makes two of you. He had absolutely no idea what he was talking about either.
A knowledgeable sound man would know which frequencies were too much, and would simply pull them down in the mix.

[quote name='obi 2 kenobi' post='891103' date='Jul 10 2010, 04:47 AM']hi, probably dumb question.

Just picked up 2 MarkBass Traveler Cabs (2 x 10). Each cab has one speakon and 2 1/4 inch jacks.

Question : why 2 1/4 inch jacks ? What's the difference between them (if any) ?


Thx[/quote]One 1/4" so you can run it with a 1/4" cable from an amp with no Speakon out, one 1/4" to parallel another cab with a 1/4" input. But you should be using the Speakon anyway. Why not two Speakons on each cab? It saved MarkBass two quid.

[quote name='Al Heeley' post='889401' date='Jul 8 2010, 07:01 AM']I asked in the Hartke subforum about how to rewire the 410 cab as a 4ohm to get the max push out of the amp and was told it could not be done.[/quote]Nor is it generally worthwhile anyway. Few cabs will take more than half their thermal power rating before exceeding excursion limits. Even were that not an issue you'd only get 2dB additional output from a 4 ohm versus 8 ohm cab. That's audible, but just.

[quote name='bigjohn' post='888848' date='Jul 7 2010, 02:36 PM']Indeed.

If you we're going to run them parallel I'd have them rewired to give them greater impedance. You won't notice that you're not drawing "the full power" from the amp.

Or have them rewired so you can run them in series.[/quote]
The jacks on the back of the amp are parallel wired, as are the paired jacks on the cabs. It doesn't matter whether you use both jacks on the amp or run one cable to one cab and daisy chain the second cab from the first, it's still parallel wiring. You only get series wiring when you use a specially made series wiring harness.

[quote name='Al Heeley' post='888648' date='Jul 7 2010, 11:54 AM']Peavey Tour 450 head & 2 hartke cabs: Does it make any difference if I wire each cab from the two separate outputs on the amp, or daisy chain them from amp to cab1, then cab1 to cab 2?
Is there a best method?[/quote]Electrically both methods are identical, a parallel load. The only potential advantage to running the cables each separately to the amp is then the current flow and cable resistance loss is divided between them. That's only an advantage if the cables are shy on current capability and have high DCR from being under gauged.

[quote name='thinman' post='878792' date='Jun 27 2010, 08:22 AM']I was worried about phantom power with my amp too.

OBBM, who posts on here, suggested the following that works well and is about as cheap as you can get:

On a XLR pins 2 and 3 are both at +48v, i.e. common, relative to pin 1 ground. If you simply disconnect pin 1 there's no circuit for the phantom voltage any more (and it also cures any earth loop issues).

The signal out is carried by pins 2 and 3.

I made a short tail lead with pin 1 disconnected and it does the trick nicely.[/quote]
That might lead to grounding issues with some boards. The better option is to wire 1uF 50v tantalum capacitors in series with the pin 2&3 leads, and they're so small that they'll fit inside an XLR shell.

[quote name='fatback' post='873553' date='Jun 21 2010, 10:22 AM']Bumping in hope of an answer to this interesting one... [/quote]
Get a couple of inch high rubber cabinet feet, screw them to the rear of the cab top to act as stops to keep the amp from sliding off.

[quote name='Bilbo' post='871148' date='Jun 18 2010, 04:29 PM']Most desks let you turn the phantom power off....... at least that's what I thought.[/quote]
It's usually on or off globally for all channels, unless it's a high end desk.
A transformer or capacitive coupled DI isn't bothered by phantom power, but some DIs inexplicably aren't one or the other, inexplicably as the cost of isolation caps is a few pence. Check with the amp manufacturer.

Tilt it back. Lifting it on a table creates a loss of boundary reinforcement in the midbass. In a boomy room you may find that beneficial, but otherwise tilting it back to put the driver centers aiming at your ears is better.

[quote name='Matty' post='866386' date='Jun 13 2010, 03:37 PM']I've always imagined them to sound tinny, perhaps swayed by the apearance?[/quote]Absolutely swayed by the appearance. The only instance where a metal cone will sound different than a paper cone is when you hit them with a stick.
There's no particular advantage or disadvantage to aluminum cones except as marketing tools.