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[quote name='AndyTravis' timestamp='1493190288' post='3286264']
Recently got my 64 custom shop Jazz back and nothing else is getting a look in.

I have 6 basses.

I think either I'm going to stick with this on its own or set out looking for a similar quality P/J...

Anyone else dropped down to just one bass?
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Never had anymore than 5 at once - but need 2 for the band i play with. Main battle-axe is a P Deluxe plus a Fretless for a couple of songs. Got an older J as back up, and an acoustic just for something different.

Had fun over the past week working through the 75 presets on the B3n. It is a revelation in terms of usability compared to the MS-60B I previously had.

I've culled the selected effects down to 14 of my favourite patches which I could conceive of using in my bands' sets. I decided that live scrolling is going to be made easier if I include an "empty" slot in each bank of 3, so that works out as 7 banks used. [And plenty available for use]. The patches I've selected to keep include 4 distortion / drives, 4 bass synths and an assortment of others (e.g. octaver, tremolo, flange). There is no way I would have had space (or budget) for such tonal variety on my modest pedal board with dedicated pedals.

The user friendly interface also means I'm looking forward to (and no longer feeling daunted by) rolling my sleeves up to design patches that are closer to what I had in mind e.g. for tremolo, chorus and delay.

So where I am landing is that for the relatively novice pedal user such as me: don't bother with the budget end (e.g. the MS-60B) but get a half decent multi fx (e.g. the B3n) which can open up a world of tonal variety and fun!

Travelled to Swindon and played the Victoria to a full house - always a good crowd here that are up for some Floyd.

The PA is excellent here - as to is the resident engineer. Monitoring was perfect - something of a rarity! Just took the small Ampeg Rig and cut through no problem.

I went from stomp boxes to a Boss GT-10 - but the guitar version. I don't use any amps sims, and only a few effects - but they are fantastic and exactly what i need.

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[size=4][font=Calibri]It is definitely down to the individual bass. [/font][color="#222222"]My MIM Jazz was bought from new circa 2004 and although left completely stock it 'felt’ just perfect to play and tonally sounded great. Maybe I just got lucky.[/color][/size][/size][/font][/color]

Got my vote in..

The full rig is pretty heavy i guess - and bulky! - but i wouldn't have it any other way

There is oodles of variables that will effect your required amp size.

Variables including : venue type and size, venue PA size (if applicable) & quality, band size / loudness and the genre of music you are playing.

All amps behave differently too. What sort of tone are you looking for..?

Then there is the logistical questions - does the rig fit in my house & in my car to gigs - do i need an amp for practice or at rehearsal? does it have to be the same amp..?

Decisions, decisions, decisions...

For me, i will always go through a PA - which are normally pretty decent and large too as mostly play quite sizeable clubs. I have 2x guitars, drums and keys to cut with so i like to have plenty of volume behind me. I normally will use a 500W amp with 4x10 and 1x15 cabs paired together (which some people will say is a sin!) but it works for me. I then use the 1x15 for rehearsals and have even used the 4x10 for the odd pub gig.

First vote would be Ampeg - but you've got to like the tone.

I have played several Trace Elliott rigs over time and for your budget these would be a good shot.

+1 for the Fender Rumble too...

I used the PH9 Phaser for a while. Bought as needed it only for part of 1 song and couldn't justify with the expense of the MXR Phase9. It performed really well actually and cost me just £20 new! - you simply can't argue with that..

The GT100 will certainly give you the flexibility you need. Im not sure the 100 is a huge step up from the 10 in terms of effects - although the dual-screen is nice to work with. I think you'd definitely get more from the 100 (or 10) than the 10B.

Both the 100 and 10 run dual channels with two selectable pre-amps. Plenty of sims onboard - all completely editable even down to the very mic you wish to use & the distance away from the desired cab it is..!

To be honest, i have barely scratched the surface with my GT-10 - but its nice knowing that it has the capabilities should i need too...!

Hi Lefrash - one of my guitarist uses the GT100 - and yes it does sound incredible.

I use the GT10 (guitar version) for my main rig. It has exactly the right sounds that i need and is great for playing live.

I don't use any of the the sim's or preamps - just the effects - which you could argue is a little overkill - but the effects alone are fantastic.

You can pick them up quite reasonable 2nd hand...

Theres no right or wrong way...

I have run my rig using both scenarios - however right now feed my multi-fx (not B3) through the fx loop - as I'm able to place the effects in the order of my choosing - so i can have my modulation effects after the pre-amp.

Have a play around and go for both what works and sounds best for you..

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If it sounds good to you, then it's good, I just put my 15 under my 410, and was surprised by the extra bottom end (I know the TB guys are gonna cringe) I'm gonna leave a couple days and see what happens

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Yep same here - i use my 15 under my 410

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I've personally found that most guitar effects, though sometimes requiring a little bit of tweaking, actually work fine with bass. The Lexicon MPX G2 for instance, is a guitar effects unit that Steve Lawson has used for years, and sounds incredible.

Don't get too hung up on the fact they're marketed at guitarists, try them and see.
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+1 I use the Boss GT10 (Guitar) multi-fx pedal for live work and it gives me exactly the effects i require..

+1 for the Ampeg - and yes it has a dedicated headphone socket.

I use the PF500 version to gig with and has plenty of juice.

Thats a great rig you have there

Welcome there

[quote name='Naetharu' timestamp='1454248083' post='2967804']
Some good examples of amps that offer these kinds of features would be the Ampeg Porta-Flex series, the Gallien Kruger MB-200, the TC-Electronic class-D amps and some of the Mark-Bass amps. There are no doubt quite a few others too though those are the ones that I can think off right away.

As to speaker cabs, it is really a case of trying out some different options to see what you like. They come in all shapes and sizes from small portable 110 units to massive fridge-sized monsters from Ampeg. I play in quite a loud rock/metal band and I find that I can get by using a 112 just fine on stage provided that we have a PA, since the cab is just for my own monitoring anyhow. Try and spend a bit of time in a big store and mess around with a few different options to see just what you like.
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+1 for the Ampeg Portaflex series Amps - these are cracking amps packed with many features. Extremely portable & light great for home practice - I use the PF500 live, which given that i always run through the PA is plenty loud enough for monitoring. I use with either a single or both 4x10 and 1x15 cabs.

For the home i usually twang around on an Ibanez acoustic..

My main rig is geared to my band - which is a Pink Floyd Tribute.

Its a fairly simple set-up : Fender MIA Precision Deluxe as the main axe (Blk/Maple of course!) with a Vintage V4MTB for back up and a Bass Collection Speakeasy 4 for the Fretless work. All these running through an Ampeg PF500 amp paired with both 1x15 & 4x10 cabs. The effects are dialled in as and when from a Boss GT10.

All basses were bought from new including a much loved beautiful 10 year MIM Jazz. To this day it is still my single most favourite bass that i have ever played – it just ‘feels’ so right. There is also an Ibanez acoustic for twanging around on the sofa...

I'm very fortunate to be part of a music-loving family who have an appreciation and understanding of the need for investment in both music instruments and equipment – if it is to be of benefit.

As the saying goes "where theres a will, theres a way..."

As with the others.. no particular order and all who have at some point influenced me in some way shape or form..

Chris Squier
J P Jones
Geddy Lee
Mic Todd
Chris Wolsenholme
Tony Levin
Colin Edwin
Guy Pratt
John Myung

Hi Prof & Welcome,

Congrats on the bass purchases

The Takamine is good - I use a cheapish Ibanez semi-accoustic for most of my home practice - where i can work out my bass parts (i play in a tribute band). The acoustic keeps all the volumes way down so I can jam along to an iPad quite comfortably. I also don't need to spend hours rigging my gear up & down..!

As the old saying goes 'Practice Makes Perfect'..

As many, many people have already said - try before you buy - both MIM, MIA plus the Specials too.

I'd be incline to go straight for the MIA as will have better hardware etc from the word go.

That said, I got really lucky with my Mexican Jazz i bought new in 2006 and could't put it down for 10 years..

It is an exceptional bass. I have however just purchased a MIA Deluxe P which is just plain awesome

[quote name='pineweasel' timestamp='1456221111' post='2986671']
Speaking as a long term Jazz player, I recently bought an American Standard Precision, and I really like the Modern C neck on that. So I imagine the Slim C would be easy to get on with.
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Same here.... i was a little apprehensive at first.

I went from the Jazz to an American Deluxe Precision - but it feels right at home.

Back to Dave_Bass5's post - i did try the MIA Sandblasted P (and the J) - i think they both look awesome in the Sapphire Blue.

Go for works best for you. I started with a multi-fx pedal, then ran both multi-fx & stomp boxes together for a while, then stomp boxes on their own - and now I'm back to a multi-fx.

There is arguments both for and against - I think it depends on what sounds/effects you are after and in what context you are playing.

I use Boss playing live

[size=3][color="#000000"]Hi Smurfitt - Absolutely - I use the GT10 in this very way. [/color][/size]

[size=3][color="#000000"]I have mine wired using the 4cm - so i bypass the GT10's cosm and pre's etc etc so i can use my Ampeg's preamp and Tone.[/color][/size]

[size=3]Im not familiar with the GT6B, but with the GT10 (and also the GT10B i assume) - you can place your effects anywhere in the effects chain.[/size]

[size=3]It is an incredible bit of kit that allows you to both create and edit absolutely every single detail imaginable - once you've mastered the basics is fairly straight forward stuff...[/size]