Cato

1 hour ago, BigRedX said:

Of course what I really should do is to get Simon Farmer to make me a suitably modified version of the Gus G3 Baritone which as standard has a 30" scale length and a nut width of 45mm...

What's his average build time?

Having seen that clip about Prince's bass I'm guessing it's a fairly lengthy process even without factoring in that he's probably never built a bass vi before.

Chvrches are one of my favourite bands at the moment.

No idea where they fit genre wise, but their stuff is very synthy.

20 minutes ago, floFC said:

I was looking into bass VIs some time ago, and came across the Revelation RJT-60 B, which I quite fancied: https://www.revelationguitars.co.uk/guitar/rjt-60-b/

A fiesta red one would have been ace.

30” and 43mm nut width.

That's interesting.

I found a review here.

The reviewer may or may not be Vladimir Putin in a bad disguise.

23 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

I'm aiming for more of a post-punk sound - two note chords and alternating drone and melody string plucking. I also have my Bass VI tuned E A D G C E

Maybe the Moserite styling of the Sidejack will be slightly more suited to what you want from the affordable end of the bass VI options.

I'm definitely thinking single coils or p90s as opposed to the humbuckers on more modern versions such as the Ibanez.

If someone made a bass vi that had a 3 saddle tele bridge and pickups in the Telecaster positions that would, theoretically, be perfect for what i'm after.

As it is I'm still leaning towards the Burns. Maybe with a cheeky cheap and cheerful second hand Danelctro Barritone on the side, just to cover all options.

5 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

I've also found this from Music Man. Its slightly under 30" scale length and pickup type and placement seem to indicate it's more of an A-A Baritone guitar than a Bass VI, although it does have a 44.5mm wide nut. It's also probably the blandest of all the instruments listed here IMO...

I'd completely forgotten about those.

I think Jason Newstead of Metallica played a Silhouette live for a while on certain songs like 'Sad but True'.

10 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

A search for 6-string short and medium scale basses on Thomann has also brought up the Gretsch G6120TB-DE Duane Eddy. It doesn't appear to be available yet and when it is it will be a snip at just over £3k...

That would be ideal for me.

Duane Eddy has pretty much the exact twangy 60s instrumental/surf sound that I want.

At 3k though I can't see me getting one anytime soon.

3 minutes ago, howdenspur said:

There's the Gretsch G5265, a baritone with a 30 inch (well, 29.75) scale and a 43mm nut.

I think the Gretsch is intended to be tuned A to A or higher.

There are quite a few examples online of people stringing baritones with a bass vi set and tuning them E to E but the results seem to be mixed, with people complaining about low tension on the lower strings.

I am looking at baritones as well but I can't really see any advantage of not having the instrument tuned a full octave below standard.

14 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

According to the Eastwood rep I was chatting with on line the other day the Sidekick Bass VI is still available. 

I assumed that they'd gone because I haven't been able to find anywhere that's stocking them at the moment.

If that's not the case I may be flipping a coin between the Eastwood and the Burns.

You've probably already seen this but...

I've also come across a couple of interesting bass vi types from a company called Agile but I don't think that they are available in Europe.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=agile+bass+vi&oq=agile+bass+vi&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60j0l2.13663j0j7&client=tablet-android-samsung&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

I've also been looking at bass VIs recently and at the moment my leading contender is the Burns Barracuda bass.

https://www.thomann.de/gb/burns_barracuda_bass_white.htm

I like the look of the Sidejack but I think the bass vi version has been discontinued recently as has Danelectro's equally retro looking bass vi model.

Schecter also do a model called the Hellcat vi which looks more like a traditional Fender type arrangement.

My research has led me to the conclusion that there's pretty much no chance of trying any of the models on my list before I buy so I'd also be interested to hear from anyone who has played any type of bass vi.

I'd say it's easier to play fast with a pick because it requires less muscle conditioning.

But I suspect that someone who is first class at playing with their thumb and fingers and can hit notes on different strings almost simultaneously would actually be able to play certain phrases significantly faster than a pick player.

I don't think it's possible to do a flamenco roll, for example, with a pick.

I doubt I'll ever own a Fodera or Ritter, but I think it would be a poorer world if these 'Rolls Royce' type instruments didn't exist.

16 minutes ago, DaveAlex_ZAR said:

Thanks Cato, I think thats where he is at at the moment, I'm just conscious that when I moved from playing by myself in my apartment to actually playing with others... it was almost like I had to start over in a way. Theres probably no easy answer.,

I think joining your first band is always going to be a different kind of learning curve, but I reckon if someone is good enough to play along to a record then they're good enough to be in band.

I think the best way for a beginner to keep interested in an instrument is for them to learn to play tunes that they know and enjoy.

You also pick up quite a lot of theory, almost subconciously, as you learn how different songs are put together.

Formal theory comes later, if the individual is interested enough in that side of things to want to learn.

All IMO of course.

25 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

Well its more a trim pot. Its for adjusting the overall output level when in active mode. Very handy for balancing out the passive and active levels. Im not sure this is in the manual Maybe they updated it since they first came out. Its the little blue box.

Interesting, cheers.

3 hours ago, dave_bass5 said:

 

Ah, i was talking about the 7 on the front and the one inside.

Yes, too many knobs.......giggady.

Or maybe its just the knob that is attached to mine when i play it lol.

I didn't even know that there was an internal knob.

I clearly need to go online and read the manual.

2 hours ago, dave_bass5 said:

Hmmm, ive only got 6 knobs on mine. 3 for active only and the other 3 work in both modes. Are you counting the duel knobs as 2? if so that's 8.

I'm counting stacked controls as two knobs.

Are you counting the active/passive switch as a knob? 

Because that's the only way I can count eight knobs on the Sire.

(This is the kind of conversation you just don't get anywhere else).

14 minutes ago, bubinga5 said:

Why not just get a passive jazz.?

I've got one.

The Sire is my only fretless though.

To be honest I haven't spent as much time with it as I should have, hence the unfamiliarity with the controls.

24 minutes ago, BreadBin said:

I think this thread shows that there should be recognition of each other's needs in a successful relationship. 

For example, my missus has no say over how many instruments I cram into my music room (as long as I am making my contribution to household running costs) whilst I accept that she can have as many wierd additions to her musical therapy space as she likes. 

Currently I have 19 bass guitars and 2 6-strings. She has loads of singing bowls, a massive gong, a koto/monochord in one, several drums, a tongue drum and a Rav drum. I was asked to help her decide which Rav drum to get which is why she ended up with one tuned to B Dorian - it goes lovely with a 5-string bass 

I don't think my nerves could take living in a house where a massive gong could be deployed at any moment.

44 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

While i too use mine mostly passive, because I find it to be a really nice tone, i find it surprising you have to keep looking up what each knob does. Low, mid with sweep and high seems pretty simple to remember IME.

Each to his/her own though. 

 

Thats 3 out of the 7 knobs you've accounted for.

I know what the controls are supposed to do in theory, I just lose track of exactly which one is doing what.

Then i just switch the bass to passive and it ceases to be a distraction.

2 hours ago, Yank said:

Talkbass?  Sounds too close to Basschat.  Sue the bastards!

We've tried to call them out, our ten best against theirs, but our challenge got moderated and I got a lifetime ban under TB's strict 'no frivolous  postings' policy.

For me, personally, the Sire has too many variable parameters, it's too fidly and i have to keep looking up what knob does what online.

I mostly use mine in passive mode these days, it's just easier to find a good tone.

Lovely bass you've got there.

I've come so close to pulling the trigger on a mockingbird on several occasions.

It was the bass I wanted when I first started playing. My musical tastes have changed beyond recognition since then but my inner teenager is still gassing for something pointy.

4 minutes ago, Twigman said:

robin

Batman?

The internet is a big place.

If people want to aggressively argue about politics, religion or the more toxic stuff there's a lot of places they can go to do that whilst being as sweary as their imagination allows.