Wonky2

No multi effects for me thanks, seperate old school lumps if anything is what I’d like…. 
 

Today has been a fela day…

17 minutes ago, Doctor J said:

Relax, lads.

I ain't gonna suck to it for no one.

😆👍

(I just went and read the lyrics to that track, I always knew the jist of it’s message but Jesus h Christ it’s  a jiz fest)

😆😆😆

Yeah maybe the beeb throwing a jibe at it all, but it did make me think …..

i would very much doubt that holly johnson would approve with the notion that the whole World Cup thing had be driven by the power of love. 
it’s certainly clear who the hooded claw is that’s for sure.

😂👍

I’ll bet (fellow scouser) Holly Johnson, an obvious Gay icon, is absolutely livid at the use of FGTH song “the power of love” being used to sign off the World Cup, given the Arab nations views on homosexuality.

i can only imagine Holly /FGTH sold the rights years ago and have no say in the matter as I can’t imagine him/them agreeing to its use at all….

I appreciate the comments here guys, and I appreciate that it’s quite hard to describe  or translate , but I’m just talking about thickening up

of tone, rounding off of note edges and what I think is quite obvious compression …..

maybe I’ll give some cheap

pedals a go, the beringer ones are not a bad shout I guess…..

5 minutes ago, Boodang said:

Compressor is a common route to go for enhancing your clean tone. I've got a couple of TC Spectracomps on my board with different toneprints loaded. They're great as you can go from a tri-band setup to classic comp and everything in between. Versatile and it only has one knob.

Octavers are a different deal though. I use the Aguilar octamizer to thicken up the tone sometimes but even on subtle settings the tone does get a little artificial, and I think this pedal is the more organic sounding of the usual suspects. A great pedal though but not 'standard' clean tone fare (my fav setup is the octamizer through the grape phaser but now we're defo not in clean territory!). 

Again, chorus can get you certain tones but like the octaver, even subtle settings will be going away from that clean tone. 

It sounds like a good place to start might be to just try out some of the toneprints on a s/h Spectracomp.

 Yep, another good shout…

ill try and find a sh spectracomp.

at one point they were quite available , cheap too, but then seemed to shoot up a bit in price ? 
 

I’ve also seen the spectra drive pedal but I don’t need any drive function and I’m happy with the simplicity of the orange LBT ‘s eq’ing….. so apart from the d.i function of it, I guess the plain spectracomp pedal would be best.

7 minutes ago, Skybone said:

If you like the compressor on the TC amp, then why not try out a TC SpectraComp?

Yeah I thought that to be fair…

i don’t dilute the orange compressor, I quite like the amount of notable squish  which kind of does what I’m talking about, that rolling off of the edges….

42 minutes ago, Mudpup said:

Do you have any YouTube links to the sort of sound you're looking for? 

I guess players like Guy Pratt (floyd) might be an example? 
i realise he plays a lot of varied sounds , Including fretless sound but in general there is a subtle rounding off to the sound , which I think would be compression, chorus, and octave, all mild in use rather than overstated , but a quite destiguishable I guess…

or if I listen to radioheads wierd fishes, the bass sound is just softened somehow, clean bass sound , no obvious “effect” as such , but no finger or fret sound, deep and plumb , but just like subtle clean bass….but some how softened a little and rounded off ? 
is it just compression ? 
 

t’es i appreciate that a lot of it relates to the fingers, attack etc, but I guess I’m asking are these clean sounds pure unadulterated clean signal, maybe with just mandatory compression, or are they slightly flavoured?

it may well be that these guys just use clean sound and it’s just engineered magic…. But I feel there something there

41 minutes ago, Franticsmurf said:

Sorry to hear that. Try Amazon Warehouse - they sell returns and 'B' stock at lower prices. You have to keep looking but sometimes you can get a bargain. My Zoom MS60B was from there - returned unwanted and a third off. Talking of which, the MS60B or the B1-Four are multi effects with loads of different types and editing software for a computer which might be the solution to 'try before you buy'. The effects are modeled on individual pedals by different manufacturers and should give you an idea of what works for you.

Thanks I’ll take a look at Amazon ….

i don’t fancy a multi and deffo not anything that requires lap top for adjustments,…. 
my son has the zoom gt4x which is great but I deffo want simplicity

Yeah I’m aware of my eq’ ing and have no issue with my sound in that sense. I think what I’m talking about is that bit extra of manipulation if the signal to round off and soften the edges. 
my use of a compressor helped with that which I liked and is what turned me off to thinking about other effects having never (in 30 years) having used them much. 
 

my gear/ a 76 jazz with Aguilar pups, orange little bass thing head with obc112 cab. 
my sound is nice n warm, but I think the use of compression, chorus (barley present in the mix) and octave (again a small amount of prescience in the mix) I THINK these things would give me that softened sound I’m pointing at ? 
 

sorry it’s hard to describe , but is what I’m suggesting fairly common in approach ? 
 

i don’t ned wsh, synth or overdriven type effects, I want to maintain a fairly b cab lean signal.

moneywuse, yeah I may be wise to try cheaper clones at first (just been made redundant  ) but I don’t want to be put off by inferior goods so any suggestions for cheap versions such as Behringer are welcome, thanks 

ill likely build a small board, power, comp, chorus, octave, tuner….. 

thank though guys all comments are welcomed…

Ok, I’m one of those players that’s never really used pedals.

in recent years, with my tc rh450 I saw the light and understood the benefit of a compressor, and as the amp had one built in I used that.

ive now switched amps and I have an orange little bass thing. 
the compressor built into the LBT is quite different to the tc spectracomp and not only does  it seem to give a bit more “squish” it boosts the volume ? Which is strange?

any hoo, that’s got me thinking about : 

1)the LBT compressor , do I use it or turn it off and buy somthing like a keeley limiter which does a more traditional/transparent job of compression? I don’t mind the squish from the LBT but I’m unsure about it as it just doesn’t seem to tick the box as a transparent conpressor.

2) I play with a clean sound, I have no need at all for overdrive, distortion, synth, or “effect” of any kind…..

no I just like clean deep rounded punching bass. BUT…… Im wondering if a small very subtle amount of octave and chorus might help just round off my notes a little nicer , and maybe give a more “engineered” sound than nothing at all?

(if that makes sense) ?

so, my question is……

is subtle use of a compressor, an octaver and a chorus pedal considered to be standard “clean tone” normal kit? 
i hear “real” players clean tone and there’s just something in their sound that makes me thing is not just naked bass /amp signal…. 
 

oh, and of course, now that the tC amp has gone I’ll have to get a tuner pedal too 😂
 

all comments and advice welcome to a pedal newb with gas. 

Ok…..this song my band wrote only gets a run out once a year in our  December Christmas gigs….

i love playing it as the live version is a lot of fun to play…

live to know what you guys think of it!

”Santa claus- the old deceiver”

https://alroberts.bandcamp.com/track/santa-claus-the-old-deceiver

(It’s free to play it, just click play, you don’t have to buy it) 

if anyone would like to listen to our latest recording, the universe inside, it’s here:

https://alroberts.bandcamp.com/album/the-universe-inside

If you see me getting high, knock me down!

sir psycho has to be the one though.

literally played the bssm cassette till the music wore off it!

1 hour ago, garyt said:

I’ve only had the one set of what looks like rust.  I probably over reacted, because there were only a couple of patches.  I have another set on my other bass and they’ve been fine. And never had a problem before. 
My son used to get loads of rust on his guitar cobalts, so probably is they’re prone to certain types of sweat/grease.

You are probably less at risk with flats .

Could be…. I’ve tried others and I come back to these cobalts, good job they last a good while cos man alive they ain’t cheap now

Jeepers I’ve literally  just posted elsewhere about how good I find EB cobalt flats…. Honestly, 8 years my last set were on never once had any problems a deffo not rust. 
new sets been on 6 months now and now rust there either…

maybe I got lucky? 
maybe they’re prone to certain types of sweat/grease etc ? 
 

strange…

For bass, I only play fingers these days but in my younger days I played pick style….. Dunlop tortex green. 
Now Believe it or not, i actually only ever had one, plus one spare and must have played 1000 gigs with it. 
never lost it, never broke it. 
 

i reckon that’s quite unusual. 
 

for guitar however, my washing machine is full of them 😂👍

If your a flats guy, I can’t recommend Ernie ball cobalt flats enough. 
perfectly balanced, great tension and just great to the touch. 
my last set, on a mm, 8 years. 
new set on my 76 jazz, sound fantastic. 
 

Surprised to not see them mentioned yet in this thread, but I use Ernie ball

cobalt flats , 45-100. 
last set I had in for 8 years and they still sounded brilliant. I only changed them because I got it in my head one might snap during a gig just because of age…… so I changed them, and again , brilliant strings.

they are really well balanced and have a great low /medium tension to the feel. They feel smooth and quick

to The touch.

i did use dd chromes flats for years but these cobalt flats kicked them well

into touch.

Cool, thanks a lot for taking time to provide links, I appreciate that buddy thanks 

What solutions are there for a carry case for the Orange little bass thing? 
minder they make cases for everything except this amp ? 😂

ive see the case for their pedal 100, but can’t find dimensions to say whether the little bass thing would fit? Any one know ?

of have any alternative suggestions? 
 

55 minutes ago, Bill Fitzmaurice said:

It would be a simple matter to calculate the OBC 112 frequency response, sensitivity and maximum output using the driver Thiele/Small specs, but since there's no way of knowing what they are you're back to comparing it to other cabs the old fashioned way, trying them side by side.

Sounds awfully complicated, so yes I agree the old fashioned way is best. 
but in the absence of being able to a/b several cabs I thought I’d ask here  incase there is anyone amongst us who has already been down this road

Hi folks 

can anyone advise me on the potential purchase of an orange cabinet…..

i had an obc210 which I thought was great, but I let it go because it’s weight was an issue for me at the time.

im now yearning to go back to an orange cab, got the warmth and deep width of sound, and looking at the obc112 which I understand to be significantly less in weight.

but how does it compare in terms of Oomph? 
is the loss of size and weight notable over the obc115 or obc210?
am I only going to get a decent thump out off an obc15 or obc210?  Or will the 112 compete? 
 

i realise this is all subjective to your own preference and ear but I allthough i tried a 112 in a shop recently I couldn’t compare it to an older weighty 15” or 210 as they didn’t have any.

that said, I know a lot of people use two obc112’s, but I only intend to use one. Anyone use one in it own or is their a reason why two is the preferred  solution?

i guess I’m asking is one 112 enough on its own, (small to medium size venues) or will compromising on weight mean compromising of that deep and full sound you might get from either the two older heavier cabs ?

if

im going to loose, I’d rather go heavy and add casters I think…to help with moving it..

should I consider the sp212 or the old isobaric jobs or is that a dead horse since the arrival of the obc112?

ughhhh man I hate this. The ironly is, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the tC rs450 combo I’m selling to fund the cab. I bought an orange little bass thing on a whim and decided I’d fancied a change, but stinky poo man, the tC is actually friggin great.  Not really sure why I’m changing other than gas.

2 hours ago, Islander said:

That one was used in Iain Banks' Crow Road.  

I’ve never heard of Iain banks or crow road for that matter but I’ll testify right hand to god that this was asked of me what must have been 30 years ago. 

saying that, I’m guessing it’s an easy mistake to make so probably made by many an idiot …. 
the irony is, Hendrix probably had more chicks than Colonel Sanders
 

55 minutes ago, slystewart said:

I have used a TC helicon voice live two if you use it use it only now and then for the effect otherwise it's too much ,i have a connect from the mixer to take the sound of the rhythm guitar and input this into the effect pedal to keep pitch

it works ok good on backing   not so good it you use it on lead

Thanks, it’s for backing vocals as I mentioned in the post 👍