John_P

[quote name='PaulWarning' timestamp='1481383702' post='3191922']
yeah the head shouldn't be too much trouble, I have a Trace Elliot head that weighs about 13Kg, an easy one handed lift, that I use with a light weight cab.
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Yes the head is very light, i could easily do one trip with a bass and amp then a second trip with the 1x15. The 4x10 is a bit heavier though and I wouldn't want to carry it far on my own. I suspect most gigs will be the 15 on it's own.

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So it's a big heavy old thing but sounds great and will pay for itself very quickly - I'll almost definitely just use one cab so need to see which sounds better.

I'm well used to lugging heavy gear around - my guitar gigs are with a marshall super lead or jubilee half stack, or a friedman asm active cab that is heavier than a Fender twin.

I had planned to get a simple grab and go lightweight combo but as the full stack (head, 4x10, 1x15) is less than the fee for 2 gigs I'll probably grab it. Maybe sell the 15 cab or flip the whole rig once I've done these gigs.

I guess my real question is - if you were offered it for next to nothing would you think it sounds great but the tradeoff is weight and size or dismiss it as old and so outclassed by modern gear in terms of sound.

Thanks chaps, when I used to gig these as the PA, they were paired with an active sub on each side so they didn't needed to push any lows. I've seen plenty of cheap amps so I'm leaving these for occasional vocal monitor duties.

As I'm looking for a new amp, I was offered an old Marshall Jubilee rig today - 300w 4x10 and 1x15 cabs, (In Black rather than the grey finish).

Any opinions? I was thinking of something like a tc or gk 2x10 or 1x15 combo so this is a lot bigger than I had planned but it's pretty cheep so I'm tempted.

For typical small/medium functions/parties with decent pa support.

I've got a few bass gigs coming up and I was looking to buy an amp - typical small/medium functions and parties.
I have a few active cabs from my PA - db opera 415 and thought I could use one of those with a preamp - I've got an atomic amplifire that would do.

Any thoughts or am I going to sound thin and I would be better just buying a dedicated bass amp?

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I have a previous model superbass and a bass jcm800. Sounds like your model is halfway between the two, which will make it an awesome amp. Great price as well, I can only see that increasing in the future. Someone should snap this up.

Quick update - I just bought a yamaha trb1005. It was local and a good price so thought I'd grab it. Initial thoughts are that it's really well made and sounds great but I'm not sure if I'll adjust to the string spacing that seems a little wider than I'd like but that might be a case of getting used to a 5.

Possibly a daft question and I'm doing something wrong - I'm curious how well everyone is finding the transmitter sticks to the guitar (or more likely bass)?

I think it's a great unit - sounds perfect, batteries last ages - it works a treat and I'm very impressed, but mine doesn't seem to stay in place. I've tried it on several guitars (PRS, strat, les paul). Chris very kindly sent me a couple of more sticky pads but which was very generous and impressive customer care, but no difference. Is there a trick to making them more sticky that anyone has found?

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I did just this myself about 6 months back , picked up an OLP mm3 5 string as a part exchange trade on here I'd strongly recommend one of these. i believe there called the olp MM3 cracking basses you can see why they were pulled by Ernie ball , they punch WAY WAY above there weight especially if your more of a passive guy like I am , massive and very usable sound .... and very tight string spaces so if your used to a jazz nut the neck isn't too much of a handful i believe the .string spacing is something like 16mm .

I think there definatly around 150-160 2nd hand and totally worth that.
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Good call - I'll keep an eye out for one.

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If you can manage to scrape together a few more quid, these are excellent.
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Thanks for that - I could spend a lot more, just as a dabble at 5's again it isn't worth spending much if I can get away with it. I had thought of them but that price puts me into the same money as something even better used or a MM sire and I'd love a lakland (a mate has a few that I really like) but if these cheapo's are going to fall apart or have the necks bend and warp then it might be a cheap way in.

[quote name='bartelby' timestamp='1451381880' post='2939950']
Those HB progressive basses come up as Dekos fairly often, actually getting one is a different matter.
But if you can get one it's a very cheap way of trying out a 5 string.
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If I saw one as a demo I'd grab it! I suspect I'm not quite fast enough on the draw though lol


Any thoughts on the HB vs the J&D or are they the same quality?

I fancy trying a 5 string again, it isn't worth spending a lot to see if I can into it.

Any thoughts on some of the cheap models like this J&D
http://www.dv247.com/guitars/jandd-yc-150j-5-5-string-bass-guitar-black--210972

or this harley benton
http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_b_550_qtb_progressive_series.htm

or a MM style from HB
http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_mb_5_sb_deluxe_series.htm

are these cheapie gig worthy or should I look out for a used bargain from a more traditional name brand?

I really like the look of these and they play great if my memory is correct - if it was a 5 I'd have been very tempted, a lot of bass for the money!

Fantastic - if MM did one like that it would sell well imo. Great work.

If you're quick it might be easier to just send it back to thoman than try to sell it?

That looks like a bargain! If it was a 5 I'd be sending the money now but I can't justify another 4 string.

How does the neck feel - compared to a Lakland? I was toying with looking for a cheap skyline 5 but could be tempted to try a sire instead.

I can't comment on the basses, but I have an emerald double neck acoustic. The quality is fantastic, it sounds and play superb and it holds it's tuning very very well. I would expect the basses to be equally great.

I use my thr10 for guitar and bass. Out the 11 amps currently in the house it gets the most use - pretty much everyday it's used for practising or learning tunes, I think they are great. Hopefully Yamaha are about to announce a bigger version that could be used out of the house.

I bought my MIJ Geddy Lee to replace my MIJ 62 reissue and Mexican standard jazz because of the neck. It would be a real shame if the new US model has deviated a lot from that shape. it's the slimmest jazz neck I've played and super comfortable.

If it's to plug a passive bass into with no other pedals than I higher impedance is better, if it's to go after a buffered pedal than a low imp type is fine, I bought a cheap Ernie Ball 25K as it was going at the end of a pedal chain so works fine.

Ernie Ball are great (I have two) and the jr version saves a bit of space.
Dunlop and Boss 500 are good. The smaller boss is plastic but still ok.
Morley are nice as well but need power.

tbh it's hard to go wrong but I'd have a think about whether you need a tuner output (handy), metal or plastic construction and if powering it would be a pain.

A shame this wasn't a few cm deeper like the rockboard studio - I would have grabbed it. That looks a bargain pedalboard.

I've used a variety of active cabs in PA's and they can be handy for a quick setup if you have a desk your happy with. For that price you should be able to find a decent pair - RCF, Mackie, db etc. but I wouldn't run the full band through them - for vocals and a tiny bit of backline spread they'll be fine. If you want any serious low end from a kick drum and bass then you really need some subs to go with them.

If your budget is fixed and do want the whole band to go through the PA then I'd look at an older system with passive cabs and power amps - you could grab something like a set of peavey hisys cabs and a 2600 power amp (or two). More bulk to move around and not quite as hifi sounding as some more modern lightweght rigs but they are pretty reliable and can do gig and gig.

or get the active tops now and add some subs later.

I do a few dep gigs - 4 gigs with 3 bands this month. What they provide and expect can vary - usually a set list before the gig, sometimes with notes about keys and changes from the record. Sometimes I'll get a rehearsal but increasingly I'm less fussed about that. I try to make up a cheat sheet with minimal notes e.g. 2 sides of A4 per set, so I can have it on the floor like a set list.
I make a point of getting there before the band, helping with carrying and setting up PA and lights but holding back from interfering with how things are done. Use a very simple rig that I can set up fast, won't fail and then don't twiddle. I'm sure I get offered gigs because I'll be on time and act professionally rather than because of my playing.

Getting gigs is about networking and when bands on the local circuit know you do deps, you get offered more. I'd agree it might be easier to find a stand in guitarist for your band but it can be a lot of fun diving in at the deep end.