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  1. [quote name='soul deluxe' timestamp='1359332007' post='1953289'] thats not Victor Bailey dude.. wrong color his bass is a Victor Bailey Fender Jazz signature.. think his name is Ton Jardin.. imo a perfect example of an unknown amazing bassist.. as far as i know he has no record deal.. or does not play for a band that has such [/quote] He's terrific. Very musical. Thanks for posting. As for davidsin rocks. I don't get it. Yeah, he's good. Very good. But I don't hear anything special or unique. (Unless I've missed his best stuff). There are thousands of guys who play like Flea. I think he got a rep because he was one of the early YT guys. Good teachers are also a seperate catagory IMO. Bassowman is a guy no one knows who's up there with marlow for mastering covers. I'm normally not as interested in that, but props nevertheless. He does a great job.
  2. [quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1317224175' post='1388341'] Glenn Cornick (Jethro Tull) was a big influence on me at one time. Another not much talked about name ( at least as far as his bass playing is concerned) is Peter Cetera. His work on the early "Chicago" albums is just amazing. While he is better known as a sax player, Wilton Felder ("Crusaders") doubled on bass on a lot of the early "Crusaders" albums. Anyone needing a lesson on how to hold down a groove, should have a listen. Granted these guys are not contempory players. However in their day they were among the best bassists, and I'm sure could still give the younger guys of today, a run for their money. [/quote] Agreed. Glen was great. Cetera is thought of more as a singer but is a really musical player. And Felder played, "I Want You Back", which is good enough for me.
  3. [quote name='soul deluxe' timestamp='1359328428' post='1953250'] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xfpnn4jLGS8[/media] [/quote] NICE! But Victor is hardly an unknown, no?
  4. [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1359308004' post='1952833'] I think its a vanity thing. l just see a lot of people in bedrooms playing their nuts off to no real purpose just doing the music shop thing in the biggest shop window in the world. Scott Devine is doing a great job with direction. Most of it s pointless vanity. [/quote] Playing music that reaches thousand of people is pointless? Huh. Who woulda guessed? And what is it that you do?
  5. [quote name='Lord Sausage' timestamp='1359295766' post='1952580'] Right so we're agreed then. Nobody do anything musically unless it the height of artistic and musical expression. If you aren't doing anything to advance your career or to play with others then just don't do it. No enjoying yourself. No playing your instruments just for something to do. And definitely no recording of yourself playing along to anything. Don't play covers. We only want the purest, form of original music. [/quote] Correct. It's either that or become a crack addict. There are no other choices. lol
  6. [quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1359286129' post='1952404'] I can't help feeling that a lot of this is Sport rather than music but I am also aware that the standard of these players in terms of core skills is a lot higher than it was in the past and that should be applauded. Aspiring to make a mark on youtube is pretty tragic, IMO, and playing other people's stuff ('bass covers' I think they call them) is a really odd way to spend your time. I am aware, however, that this is like as not a generational thing and I, as a nearly 50 year old, am going to have a different perspective on the issue than 'the kids'. And that is as it should be. Better that they do this than smoke crack in a urine soaked stair well, I say [/quote] I don't understand this statement at all. It seems resentful towards talented people who want to express themselves. Or maybe toward those who take a different path. That's ANTI music to me. It's also ill informed. I don't think most of the players in question are just playing tricks and showing technique, nor are they just doing covers. Does playing a jazz standard considered "doing a cover?" Since when are recordings irrelevant and only live performances are justified? Are they leaving a mark? Well, yeah. It's on Youtube! lol That may not mean much but 50 years ago, guys who played sessions for scale and expected a song to last a few weeks and then die off are now considered legends. They may not be rich but they have a legacy , however small. It's something. This isn't a competitive sport. It's art. At least I thought it was supposed to be. And art stands on its own.
  7. Also, let's give props to the drummer in that Sharray Reed vid. That guy is COOKIN'! And a big part of the groove.
  8. [quote name='silddx' timestamp='1359255302' post='1952242'] See this guy is not sure what do play, he repeating licks and not really feeling the music. Whereas this guy REALLY is .. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pATcvr3zAhg[/media] [/quote] Agreed. The first guy was good but even without looking at him, you can tell he was uninspired. The second guy is groovin.'
  9. It's funny, most everyone's snit is that the players are doing covers yet most of them also have originals but they aren't mentioned! lol I think that's the reason to do covers. They're more assessable. Originals take time to absorb and on the internet it's too easy to just switch off. Years ago an album was something precious and it was common to spend days getting into it. No more. At any rate, I'd say that Zander's version of Unforgiven and Plangent's arrangement of Lithium are the furthest things from "note for note " covers.
  10. [quote name='Doddy' timestamp='1359163444' post='1951162'] Talent equating to fame was never mentioned and is a totally different discussion. I'm fully aware that there are a lot of full time musicians that don't play with 'name' acts,being as I make my living as a musician. In the opening post it said 'These guys are pro,no doubt',and I actually doubt that most of them are. You said that this was open to debate...my side is that what most of these guys are doing is not particularly great and I would much rather hear them up on a stage or on record making music rather than sitting at home playing songs to post on Youtube or whatever. [/quote] I understand completely, but I think that's the point of the article. The option of playing live on an ongoing basis is not always available (for various reasons). And YouTube is an outlet for artists to have their work recognized. I think that's great. And who knows...maybe you can hear them on stage. I'm pretty sure at least half of those guys gig. At any rate, good is good. Someone can be playing on a street corner, as long as they're saying something musical, I respect that.
  11. "....I never hear of any YouTube players doing any pro gig. (Or any gig really). " Out of everyone on that list only Marlow and Cannibal Zombie do "play alongs." As for as the fact that you haven't heard of anyone doing pro gigs -- are you aware of every musician and what gigs they do? There are lots of full time musicians who don't play full time with a name act. Talent does not equate to fame. If Van Gogh was so good how come he didn't sell any paintings?
  12. Interesting article -- open for debate. [b] The 10 Best Bass Players on YouTube[/b] The Overlooked Stars Who May Be Shaping the Next Generation of Bassists By Kane Allias For today’s bass players, it is, “the best of times – the worst of times.” The “worst’ aspect being that although there’s been tremendous advances in both technology and technique, the music scene in general has not supported much in the way of low end innovations. It’s been a while since there’ve been any revolutionary “bass stars” redefining the instrument nor has there been that defining album that makes everyone view the instrument in a new way. In the big leagues of of major acts, record sales and record contracts have lessened. In the local scene, club work is more scarce, studio work is covered by pre-programs, and what was considered the “scrub work for quick money” gigs – weddings, private parties, low paying bar jobs and such -- have become a competitive field among top notch players simply looking for the opportunity to play. What’s “best” is the access of the internet. The easy accessibility of recording equipment allows musicians the world over who otherwise would never have the opportunity to be heard, to now record and post their work which potentially becomes visible to thousands of people. And the most recognized is YouTube. This can be regarded as a double edged sword since there is a deluge of mediocrity, time-sucking w***fests and ego driven wastes of time, but it also contains some gems of art and entertainment. And when it comes to music and specifically bass players, there’s a lot to see, to hear, to learn and to enjoy. The following list is a tribute to those who create music for others to hear without monetary reimbursement or even the likelihood of acknowledgement. Very often, it simply makes the artists targets for ridicule from haters and malcontents who hide behind a computer screen to spew their petulance. You know – the ones who do nothing so they knock others to feel better about themselves. The following list is not intended to showcase the best bass playing clips on YouTube, but the best players who may otherwise not be particularly well known. These guys (and gals) are pros, no doubt. But unfortunately fame and fortune is not as ubiquitous as raw talent, so the names will likely be new to you. Still, they are very worthy of attention. Consider them the “unsung heros of the bass.” Or more accurately, “The most famous bass players you’re never heard of. “ It’s certain there are many, many more. There will always be people looking to express their creativity. This is just a short list of what we feel is the best of the best of the unknown – in no particular order. Viaceslav Svedov . It’s guys like this who can make you question why you ever decided to take up the bass. One gets the feeling this is a man with a lot of time on his hands and most of that time is spent with a bass in his hands. Exhibiting monstrous technique that never seems gratuitous, Viaceslav breaks all the rules with his unbridled, manic and passion laden slap bass arrangements of metal and funk standards on which he adds an extra dimension at every turn. Viaceslav forgoes the typical slap and pop licks and takes the technique to another level. On his Metallica medley he not only covers bass part but incorporates , guitar chords, melody and even drum patterns simultaneously with a ferocity and forcefulness that can be absolutely jolting. His slap bass version of Tom Sawyer makes the original Geddy Lee part seem elementary in comparison. The 80’s classic “Take On Me’ is a joy as well. This is all done with flair and sense of whimsy. Svedov will dance, clown around and mug for the camera without losing the groove for one moment. A true talent who in another time and place would be a superstar. Marlowe DK Marlowe can be considering the ultimate sideman. Pick a genre – any genre – and Marlowe will nail it. His site consists almost entirely of cover song that feature the bass , such as Stevie Wonder’s “Do I do” and one of the few accurate transcriptions of Benard Rogers masterpiece “We Are Family.” Marlowe replicates the parts with a verve and authenticity of the original – plus a little bit more -- a little more groove, a little more chops a little more confidence. The man is under control – some may say [i]too much [/i]control since his command is so strong he can come off somewhat blasé’ in his performances. Marlowe performs the entire tracks top to bottom live and each and ever track sounds damn near flawless. A perfect take every time. He also uses a variety of basses and techniques to suit the situation and the choice is always dead on. If you ever want to learn the REAL way some those classic basslines are performed, check out his channel. He does them right. Zander4724 The polar opposite of Malone DK is Zandor Zon (The last name being questionable since he uses a Zon bass) This bright new talent is someone who comes across as having zero interest in fitting the role of what a bass player should be or what a bass was designed to do. And that’s what makes it so wonderful. Playing in mostly a finger picking style, he has his own concept of how to play the bass and it is truly one of beauty and depth. The bass becomes an instrument, not to provide a role, but as a vehicle on which to present the artists creative vision. His arrangement of Pachabel’s Canon breathes new life into an often overdone theme with inventive use of harmonics with superimposed chord melody movement. His version of Metallica’s “Unforgiven” evokes an eerie mood and authority that surpasses the original. Zander may not be the guy to call when you need a sub to cover that gig at the local biker bar but when you want to hear some magnificent music played on the bass, he has some wonderful video posts worth viewing. Plangentmusic This channel is not only one of the more eclectic, it’s also one of the most entertaining, consisting of mostly hit songs from the last 40 years that feature fun and interesting bass parts. Each song is given a full band treatment emphasizing melodic bass lines. And there’s an additional catch -- bassist Nelson Montana plays [i]all the instruments[/i] on all the tracks. This includes some classical pieces where symphony is completely orchestrated (on midi keyboards) and the basses are replaced with bass guitar, as highlighted on his arrangement of Beethoven’s 9[sup]th[/sup]—second movement. Some may feel as if this is talking too much of a liberty with tradition but Montana makes it his own. In some cases, the renditions of classic songs are so exact that it’s hard to tell the difference from the original, right down to every idiosyncratic bump and noise, even in cases of songs that one would think no one would dare cover such as the psychedelic classic “For the Benefit of Mister Kite”. In other cases, the arrangements are so unique the original tune may barely be recognizable such as the guitar/bass duet of “Michelle” where the bass takes the lead role and the guitar provides sounds and textures. Nelson’s jazz waltz, acoustic guitar and fretless bass version of Nirvana’s Lithium is an interesting take that includes a fine vocal as well. There are also hook laden original songs in several styles, tracks from his CD’s “Jazz Unstandards” (which has some fairly well know guest artists), “Don’t Fear The Reverb”, a collection of classic guitar instrumentals with more pronounced bass and even some solo bass pieces. (His Moonlight Sonata is especially nice). Lots of twists and turns here, from country, to funk to even rap and opera! But the bulk is good old classic rock and pop with the bass up front. WAY up front. Cannabilistic Zombie Going by no other name, this is another young man who shows tremendous dedication a genre that is often considered harsh and unmusical – Death/Technical Metal. Yet the skill level it takes to perform it is unquestionably impressive and this channel is a shining example of that ability. Yielding a 6 string fretless bass and implementing a 3 finger right hand technique, this guy rips though lines so fast and convoluted it’s hard to imagine even being able to hear the notes. This isn’t just fast finger wiggling, nor is it a display of “tricks.” This is stone cold awesome command of the instrument. On recordings, much of this music is pro-tooled to make it tighter and more precise but here you’ll see each and every fingering perfectly executed with solid timing. It’s an admirable trait and one that hopefully lands this young man in musical situation could exploit his skills and get it heard to an appreciative audience. (Since one gets the feeling he isn’t especially interested to learning the latest Katy Perry tune for the Saturday night dance). It ain’t pretty, but it sure is impressive. It could be argued that this music lacks melody and thus commercial appeal, but the prowess necessary to pull it off this well is remarkable to say the least and CZ does it with dazzling deftness. And considering his age, the potential and possibilities are most intriguing. BassGK Bassist Grezegorz Kosinski is a consummate virtuoso. His videos are more akin to hearing a world class concert cellist than a bass guitarist. His repertoire is made up of almost entirely of classical and baroque compositions and the pieces are performed with a touch and tone that is as near flawless as can be imagined. His two handed tap arrangement of Chopin’s waltz in A minor is a standout, though not to be taken too stodgily, he does a tribute to Cliff Burton – though it’s fair to say that it’s nothing Cliff himself would likely have imagined playing. For pure technique Grezegorz plays the bass as well as it can be played – on par with the worlds top master players. He’s also tasteful and creative. Not everything he plays may be applicable to most bassists situations but he’s worth a listen for no other reason than his formidable bass skills. He’s in a class by himself. Miquelbass Miquel Falcao has taken on a taunting task – that of devoting a channel to the note for note interpretation of the work of bass pioneer Chris Squier. Miquel not only performs some ambitious works such as the entire “Close To The Edge” suite, but he captures the touch, the time, the timbre and the attitude of the master himself. The Squier sound is especially elusive. Many think it’s simply a “Rick with a pick” sound but there are textural changes through each song and Miquel gets it all. It’s interesting to note, a few years back Jeff Berlin stepped in Chris to play a few shows. He learned and transcribed the entire set and read it down on stage perfectly with no rehearsal. That shows almost unfathomable skill but what was missing was the idiosyncratic Squier feel. This is what Miquel has captured to a tee. And for anyone who thinks he’s just a copy cat player, Miquel also has a few originals posted and they not only sound nothing like Squier or Yes, they are both technically impressive and musically rewarding. Kaboes (Lydia on Bass) In many ways Lydia is one a legion of bassists showing off the classic funky funk style of the 80’s and 90’s -- the only difference is, she SLAYS it, with power, precision, a time feel you can set your clock to. And she lays down a groove that’s 10 feet deep. Lydia is a bit of a You tube phenom so she has gained popularity, some say due to the “gimmick” that she’s an attractive female, but it wouldn’t matter if she were a fat bald 50 year old man, there’s no denying her mammoth knack for funkifying the bass guitar. Check out her cover of the Marcus Miller tune “Free” where she adds chord voicings and sings lead. The girl does it all and kicks some serious ass doing it. One would think these combinations of skills would make her highly marketable, which it does, except that the style of her expertise might be stuck in-between “dated” and “retro’ to go beyond that of local legend and onto the world stage. Nevertheless, she’s worth hearing. And learning from. Try not to feel too emasculated. Hadfero Henreid Feraud If blistering fusion-style improvisation is your thing, look no further than Henreid Feraud. It would be fair to make comparisons of Henried to Gary Willis in that he plays in a very effortless and fluid manner, one idea following the other and with complete command. It doesn’t seem to matter how complex the changes may be, or how fast, or how long he may go on, it seems almost as if it’s impossible for him to hit a wrong note. There have been criticisms of “sameness” in Feraud’s playing since he blisters though his solos with such adeptness there’s seemingly no “risk” to his playing, but on his video with keyboardist Eddie Brown, Henreid shows he can rock out with the best of them. When cued to “take a few choruses” Henreid launches into an impromptu demonstration of “lead bass” including expressive bends, shread runs and soaring melodies. Whereas most of the players mentioned have constructed their styles to be best showcases, Henried is a true performer playing genuine improvised music and absolutely crushing it every step of the way. Andysaxtondot.com Now here’s a fellow who doesn’t just make showcase videos but uses the medium to promote himself, his songs, his teaching practice and his career in general. Andy’s main style is techno/post prog rock with a punk flair. In other words, there is an aggressive slap element to his sound but it goes beyond the Flea/Claypool school of riffs and licks. Andy creates soundscapes and compositions all from the bass. The sound is strong but clean and always musical. There are no apologies here. This is music for bass players, yet it never suffers from a sense of excess ego, nor does the music sound “forced” into showcasing the bass. It’s all perfectly natural and aurally satisfying. As his You tube title shamelessly promotes, his website is a well-produced amalgam of various works all showcasing his considerable prowess. His may not be the next big wave of the music industry but let’s give major props to a man who is hard at work promoting his art and his business, both of which are (and should be) the same thing. So there you have it – ten shining examples that music and the art of the bass continues to live and thrive. Humbly, perhaps. But ever so proudly. If you get a chance, spend some time on these channels, spread the word, and leave a message. They are appreciated. These are only 10. There are sure to be dozens more before long. In the meantime, one thing can be learned from these few examples …I think I have a little practicing to do.
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