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Bartolini, the pickups/pre-amps in 4 out of 5 basses (of mine). All the electronics are the same, all the basses sound different.

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[quote name='lowdown' post='502160' date='May 31 2009, 03:42 AM']I agree. And what impressed me most was that he did not say 'IMHO' once. Garry[/quote] Hi Garry, The things I wrote in the post above are not opinion, they are comments based on fact. "IMO" is a term I use often because, without credible evidence (the words of someone who was present at the relevent events or published accounts thereof), my opinion is exactly what that which is being discussed is coming from me and I am vigilant to state it as such. My "opinion" is what I believe to be so considering the fact that "I was not there". It may be constituted by life experience which may cause me to come to a certain comment (read OPINION), or be something I read/hear (published or broadcast) which would cause me to have comment in a matter not directly related to the source. I talked to Tony Newton personally. We have shared the same stage, and I have been invited to various gigs as his guest. I consider him a friend (although we haven't seen each other lately). The BBC broadcast of HDH concerning these recordings does exist. In that broadcast I heard the words of Holland-Dozier-Holland, Abdul Fakir, Harry Weinger & Louvaine Demps regarding Bernadette, and many other songs (I was alerted by someone from Detroit as to it's subsequent broadcast and I recorded the whole thing). If anybody ever says that I am not factual regarding the content of that broadcast when I refer to what was said in that broadcast I have proof of it's existance. No need for "IMO" (humble or otherwise). When I was put in touch with the late Henry Cosby (co-writer and producer of "I Was Made To Love Her" by Stevie Wonder) and he says to me personally that "James Jamerson was the bassist on IWMTLR" that becomes fact in my mind and not really up for discussion. In the final analysis I am a bassist and I have played the instrument for over 40 years and I know what I hear but it is still my opinion as to what I "think" I am hearing. You talk to other people to give you the facts (because they were there or have and absolute reason to be believed) in which to draw the conclusion that what you thought was happening is indeed FACT (no more "IMO"). Thanks for all the comments about my remarks (opinion and/or fact). I gotta say I did hear something that I know to not be true on the BBC program this year regarding the History of Motown. In that program it was stated by one of the hosts that Bob Babbitt played bass on ([implied] all of) the "What's Going On" album. Of course Jamerson played on most (more than half) of the album and I cannot answer for the error in that statement but (in their defense) they are record enthusiasts and not bass players so I view it as a simple mistake based on a misreading of the liner notes on the now 37yr old recording. So, no disrespect at all to the BBC or the host of the series. They are to be commended as they did what American radio/TV has fallen far short of doing as far as documenting this historic subject. BassLand

Hi BassChat, I talked to Tony Newton and he explained to me that He and Jamerson were the 2 bassist on Stop... Then he explained what the two parts consisted of. One sounds almost like a guitar playing a single line rhythmic ostinato pattern while the 2nd bass plays the dotted quarter / eight note groove (one octave below bass #1) that is really in the pocket. It was mixed to sound like one part. Motown used more than one bassist on several records and on Inner City Blues they had Babbitt play the odd phrases 1 bar, 3rd bar etc and overdub the even phrases Bar 2, 4 etc at a subsequent session. There is a BBC program from August 2007 that deals with Bernadette where they played the tracks solo'ed and had discussion with HDH, Abdul Fakir and Louvaine Demps (of the Four Tops and the Andentes respectively) talking about how the parts were constructed in Detroit at Studio A. I have a small excerpt on YouTube with pictures [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uw0mRsALQY"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Uw0mRsALQY[/url] We need to have the record of what these artist and producers have to say about their creations before we except what some others who could not have had a relationship with HDH, for instance lays claim to those historic recordings. Don't let History become Her-story. Here is the site where you used to be able to hear the entire broadcast. There is one for Motown 50 also. [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/events/60sseason/documentaries/recordproducers.shtml"]http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/events/60sseas...producers.shtml[/url] If anyone more familiar with the BBC website than me comes across a page where the program might be hard, please let me know. There is a link to the page above on my Jamerson webpage [url="http://BassLand.net/Jamerson.html"]http://BassLand.net/Jamerson.html[/url]

[quote name='paul, the' post='81531' date='Oct 30 2007, 03:27 PM']Thank you for your input, Mr. Lee! I feel honored to have such a Jamerson devotee post on the thread. And thank you for Bassland; which was an explosion of knowledge for me of what was previously just a beautiful tone and revolutionary style. Your website allowed me to meet the man and experience the time. All your own media is excellent too, I can hear the JJ influence but you make it your own with an amalgamation of other styles and experiences. Hope to see you putting your two cents elsewhere on forum every now and then too paul.[/quote] Paul, Thank you for the kind words regarding my site and being here. BassLand.net has been a labor of love. I look forward to hanging around this forum in the future. BassLand "Bob"

Hi BassChat, I was researching the Kaye - Jamerson question and this bass chat came up. I enjoyed the past posts and see that my site BassLand.net was quoted several times. I am the creator of the Jamerson tribute page at [url="http://bassland.net/jamerson.html"]http://bassland.net/jamerson.html[/url] and co-creator of the Jamerson MySpace site [url="http://MySpace.com/JamesJamerson578"]http://MySpace.com/JamesJamerson578[/url] along with a member of the Jamerson family. There is a very compelling interview on your own very popular BBC that addresses issues central to this so-called controversy. The interview is with Holland Dozier Holland and they discuss production techniques on all of the records they produced and wrote for Motown Records including Bernadette which, must be considered a groundbreaking record (especially the bass playing) and many more recordings that are part of CK's claims. [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/events/60sseason/documentaries/recordproducers.shtml"]http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/events/60sseas...producers.shtml[/url] This should lay rest to a great deal of the controversy and is great listening. They isolate tracks from the original multitrack masters and it has James Jamerson's and the rest of the Funk Brothers signatures all over it. All that having been said this certainly does not mean that Kaye is abandoning her "CLAIMS". She claims she is writing a book on the subject. I do believe that history will treat her harshly for trying to abscond with the credits of one of the first electric bass virtuoso and a true innovator that has touched the lives of most bassplayers that follow in his footsteps. "Everybody Else Can't Be Wrong" BassLand [url="http://MySpace.com/bobleedesign"]http://MySpace.com/bobleedesign[/url] [url="http://YouTube.com/BassLabD"]http://YouTube.com/BassLabD[/url] [url="http://BassLand.net"]http://BassLand.net[/url]