Silent Fly Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 Hi, Does anybody have some experience with some of these pedals/company: [url="http://www.buildyourownclone.com"][url="http://www.buildyourownclone.com"]http://www.buildyourownclone.com[/url][/url] or their UK distributor: [url="http://www.vibe-o-tronic.siliq.net"][url="http://www.vibe-o-tronic.siliq.net"]http://www.vibe-o-tronic.siliq.net[/url][/url] Silent Fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 [quote name='Silent Fly' post='83632' date='Nov 4 2007, 06:58 PM']Hi, Does anybody have some experience with some of these pedals/company: [url="http://www.buildyourownclone.com"]<a href="http://www.buildyourownclone.com" target="_blank">http://www.buildyourownclone.com[/url]</a> or their UK distributor: [url="http://www.vibe-o-tronic.siliq.net"]<a href="http://www.vibe-o-tronic.siliq.net" target="_blank">http://www.vibe-o-tronic.siliq.net[/url]</a> Silent Fly[/quote] Hello Silent Fly, Not used either of the above, but I have built a fair few of my [i]own[/i] clones. The BYOC kits are probably very good, but to me they do a seem bit pricey. e.g. +250 BYOC kit: £35. An original DOD 250 can easily be picked up on Ebay for that or less! If you sourced the parts yourself, & made it on veroboard - cost would be no more than £15. Most expensive items would be the box & footswitch. Diagram here: [url="http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/v/DRAGONFLY-LAYOUTS_0/album17/album06/DOD_OVERDRIVE_250_VERO_001.gif.html"]http://www.aronnelson.com/gallery/v/DRAGON...RO_001.gif.html[/url] Excellent forum, with diagrams & advice here [url="http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/"]http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/[/url] BYOC's own forum is also very good [url="http://board.buildyourownclone.com/"]http://board.buildyourownclone.com/[/url] If you're reasonably competent with a soldering iron, a lot of effects are a piece of p*ss to make & cost relatively peanuts. A good way to spend those long cold winter nights! What effect do you fancy building? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Fly Posted November 4, 2007 Author Share Posted November 4, 2007 [quote name='nick' post='83670' date='Nov 4 2007, 07:59 PM'](...) What effect do you fancy building?[/quote] I was thinking about a phaser and the "Script 90 Phaser" (aka MXR 90 + depth control) sounds a good choice. I agree that £40 it is a little bit pricey considering the cost of the components + hardware. On the other side, the MXR Phase 90, depending on the flavour, costs between £55 and £96 (thomann prices) and it is without the depth control. I may end up buying only the PCB. For £6.50 it is more than reasonable. I am not sure where I am going to get 4 matched 2N5952 JFET though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick Posted November 4, 2007 Share Posted November 4, 2007 [quote name='Silent Fly' post='83685' date='Nov 4 2007, 08:32 PM']I may end up buying only the PCB. For £6.50 it is more than reasonable. I am not sure where I am going to get 4 matched 2N5952 JFET though [/quote] I can only suggest buying a batch of them (they are cheap) & finding matched ones(!) Some info here on JFET matching: [url="http://www.geofex.com/"]http://www.geofex.com/[/url] [url="http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/index.php?topic=51735.msg389061"]http://www.diystompboxes.com/smfforum/inde...51735.msg389061[/url] However, this forum reply is also interesting, & could offer some hope(?) [url="http://board.buildyourownclone.com/viewtopic.php?t=3597"]http://board.buildyourownclone.com/viewtopic.php?t=3597[/url] Why not give it a go... Hope this is of some help. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Fly Posted November 5, 2007 Author Share Posted November 5, 2007 Hello Nick, Thanks for the interesting links. Good news: the 4 matched 2N5952 JFET [url="http://banzaieffects.de/2N5952-matched-transistors-pr-16283.html"]are not a problem[/url]! I also managed to find very clear instructions about [url="http://smallbox.zeonhost.com/projects/tooling/index.html"]how to paint the box[/url]. Silent Fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick Posted November 5, 2007 Share Posted November 5, 2007 [quote name='Silent Fly' post='83876' date='Nov 5 2007, 10:12 AM']Hello Nick, Thanks for the interesting links. Good news: the 4 matched 2N5952 JFET [url="http://banzaieffects.de/2N5952-matched-transistors-pr-16283.html"]are not a problem[/url]! I also managed to find very clear instructions about [url="http://smallbox.zeonhost.com/projects/tooling/index.html"]how to paint the box[/url]. Silent Fly[/quote] Hi, Last link was basically stating that unmatched JFETs was not a problem for this project(?) Good to see you've managed to source 4 matched ones anyway, & a good price. Lot less hassle than buying 50 & sorting through them! Thanks as well for link to painting a box...some other interesting stuff on that website too. Good luck with the build. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papadesophie Posted January 2, 2008 Share Posted January 2, 2008 [quote name='Silent Fly' post='83632' date='Nov 4 2007, 06:58 PM']Hi, Does anybody have some experience with some of these pedals/company: [url="http://www.buildyourownclone.com"]<a href="http://www.buildyourownclone.com" target="_blank">http://www.buildyourownclone.com[/url]</a> or their UK distributor: [url="http://www.vibe-o-tronic.siliq.net"]<a href="http://www.vibe-o-tronic.siliq.net" target="_blank">http://www.vibe-o-tronic.siliq.net[/url]</a> Silent Fly[/quote] Somewhat late, you've probably made your pedal already, but i built a 440 clone from one of their kits. Sure you can buy the parts more cheaply, but for the novice builder, these kits really do make effects building a realistic proposition. the 440 was a piece of p*ss to put together and sounds really good. The PCB is very high quality. I would build another in a heartbeat. Vibe-o-tronic shipped quickly too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umph Posted January 8, 2008 Share Posted January 8, 2008 [quote name='nick' post='83921' date='Nov 5 2007, 12:22 PM']Hi, Last link was basically stating that unmatched JFETs was not a problem for this project(?) Good to see you've managed to source 4 matched ones anyway, & a good price. Lot less hassle than buying 50 & sorting through them! Thanks as well for link to painting a box...some other interesting stuff on that website too. Good luck with the build.[/quote] explain how you tell if they match? this might explain why when i put new transistors in my muff it didn't work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Fly Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share Posted January 8, 2008 [quote name='umph' post='116162' date='Jan 8 2008, 12:52 PM']explain how you tell if they match? this might explain why when i put new transistors in my muff it didn't work[/quote] To tell if two transistors match you need to measure the main parameters (usually just the gain). If the difference is below a certain threshold (specified by the circuit designer) the transistors are considered "matching". You may want to read [url="http://www.faqs.org/docs/electric/Semi/SEMI_4.html"]this[/url]. [i](BTW I found the link running "match transistors" in Google )[/i] If the circuit you are referring to is [url="http://www.montagar.com/~patj/bigmufpi.gif"]this[/url]. I don't think that the transistors need to be matched for the circuit to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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