Duckyincarnate

Looks like one of these: http://www.czech-ease.com

Heaps of info available about them online, particularly on Talkbass. 

Very nice - and ambitious! Thanks for keeping us in the loop...

I am just adding my own King bass for the hell of it: rolled out of the H.N. White American Standard factory in 1935. A Monster Bb rotary valve tuba with a recording bell. And it too has been refinished in its lifetime, as it happens.

Just out of interest, is it a poly lacquer or more of a traditional oil based finish? 

Thomann lists the internal dimensions of all their cases on the website, so that’s worth a browse. Your friend might end up with a 4/4 sized case. 

There are custom case makers in the US if fit is important, but obviously ££. Nice bass.

This is the kind of thing that a good teacher is invaluable for. It could be any number of things: building up key muscle strength, the set up of your bass, bass height and angle, shape of the left hand, etc.

There is a reason that people keep suggesting to beginners to find a teacher, and that reason is that this instrument can be very unforgiving. Most double bassists over their years of playing will have to deal with a playing related injury. Invest in tuition early on to develop a healthy approach, and you save yourself a lot of trouble and grief. 

I have been changing my posture with the help of a teacher in recent months (after playing for more than 10 years), and it has helped me to radically reduce the tension and strain of playing. But you really need someone to observe you playing, make detailed suggestions and correct mistakes before they solidify into habits. Just my 2p. 

I did see that. Wasn't it an acoustic instrument?

No worries! Here you go:

https://www.basschat.co.uk/forum/76-eubs-double-basses-accessories-for-sale/

Some cheap ones in the classifieds at the moment!

32 minutes ago, TheRev said:

I've used a well padded gig bag (Cristopher brand) for 60+ gig a year for 8 years without any problems whatsoever. It's been in cars, in the back of vans, in pickup trucks, on tractors and once on a steam engine.

I'd only consider a hard case if I was flying or if my bass was being regularly loaded/unloaded by random stage crew. 

This. Also, have you looked at what those fibreglass cases cost?? I could just buy a new bass, really. 

Sounds like a few lessons with a German bow player might be the ticket? There is also a course on the German bow on Discover Double bass, maybe worth checking out as well. 

Oh my god those screws through the fingerboard 🙈

Saves on a gym membership though! But seriously, the only cumbersome bit are the stairs, everything else is just walking like you would otherwise do. Manoeuvring a bass with the Bass Buggie becomes second nature after a while. 

On the gigs I play (mostly straight ahead jazz), bandleaders would not consider hiring a bass guitarist. If I brought one, I'd never get the call again... So the temptation tends not to present itself!

Contrary to opinions above, I use public transport all the time, and so do many other double bass players in London. Indispensable in doing so is the brilliant Bass Buggie, which allows you to push your bass in front of you. https://www.gollihurmusic.com/product/2334-UPRIGHT_BASS_BUGGIE_BASS_TRANSPORTER_BASS_BUGGY.html

I lift up the bass to avoid potholes and kerbs, done by a little flick of the knee. A good case is important. I have been doing this for years now and haven't had any trouble. Use lifts where available, and bring the least amount of stuff you can get away with. Carrying a bass up a set of stairs is alright once you get used to it. Avoid rush hour and know your way around stations.  

I think that might be a plywood top, likely meaning the rest of the bass is plywood too. I can’t see the distinctive spruce grain you’d expect to see on a carved top. Nothing wrong with a good ply though!

Fingerboard most likely ebony, yes, and likewise for the tailpiece.

Looks decently set up - enjoy playing it!

16 hours ago, gypsyjazzer said:

 

Do gut strings hold their tuning like metal strings?

Do all makes of synthetic strings have tuning issues?

Call me 'Old Fashioned' but for me gut is the way to go!.

Gut strings DEFINITELY do not keep their tuning like metal strings. In my experience even nylon strings are a lot better at that than guts. Gut is heavily influenced by temperature and humidity, particularly plain guts. They are a lot more fussy than other types of strings. 

I used Lenzner plain guts on D and G for about 8 years. I used to get about two to three years out of mine and they became more stable as time went on, but still they were very susceptible to e.g. bright stage lighting, outdoor gigs, big temperature changes from outdoor to indoor, etc. And of course there is the upkeep with oiling and clipping the 'hairs'. 

But if you want that sound, you'll probably put up with it!

I also use a walking stick ferrule on my endpin, which is one of these:

https://www.thomann.de/gb/ulsa_chrome_plated_bass_endpin_35cm.htm?sid=818c18969e9e8ce67eece2892e41908a

I have used Helicore Orchestras for a few years - never had this problem. But if you are referring to the slightly satin-like coating the strings have, yes that does polish off after some weeks/months. For what it's worth, my new Spiro Weichs had an identical thing. It doesn't bother me. 

On 26/09/2019 at 16:18, Staggering on said:

This is my tenth day of using the exercises in the book and I'm doing them daily. It's still early days but I have noticed some changes, most notably less wrist pain and hand/finger numbness, especially at night, and some other parts of my body(neck especially) have loosened up. So far so good.😊

The introductory chapters are very informative and I've gone back to reread a couple of sections to make sure I'm doing things the correct way. Instead of working only on the wrist/hand/fingers exercises I start with the upper body section and then do all the exercises up to the thumb section which I am not doing yet since my thumbs aren't as much of a problem. This approach makes sense to me since in the intro she stresses the importance of the connection of all of your body parts and this gives a workout to the entire upper body.

Two things are a bit difficult for me at this stage. For years I have worked and exercised in a more strenuous manner than these exercises demand and I have to consciously move carefully to prevent over stretching or pushing a bit too far. The good part of this is that I have to really pay attention to my body and forget about the "no pain, no gain" philosophy that I tend to use when doing other exercises. This is very gentle and the body responses are very subtle and it takes some time to learn how to feel them.

The second thing is feeling the stretch point and release. At only ten days in, I'm still wondering if I'm doing things correctly because it is all very new to me but seems to be helping so I must be doing some things correctly. As has been pointed out in posts and in the book, this is not an instant cure program and so far it seems to be working and I'm hoping for more relief as I continue on with it and will update as I progress.

I would like to hear from anyone else using the book and thanks again for recommending it.

 

 

 

 

It sounds like you are doing really well with the book. When I was coming back from my injury, it took about two months for symptoms to subside. Although caused by tension and not an inflammation of my tendons, there was still residual pain that took a while to disappear. The reason I knew the exercises were working was that the pain was getting less immediately after doing the exercises, and gradually diminishing over the weeks.

When I do these exercises now, I can feel the temperature in my hands change very drastically. They go from a bit cold to very hot - and occasionally tingling. It feels like a restriction has been lifted, and the blood rushes into my hands. 

One very important additional help for me has been to focus on breathing from the diaphragm (like singers and horn players learn how to do), and really focussing on using deep in- and exhales to release tension. I do this during the stretches now.

I also want to chime in and say that your height is no barrier to playing a double bass. I am 5’6” and do just fine with the endpin out about 6”. I have known two bass players of no taller than 5’ who played the living snot out of regular 3/4 sized double basses, so you’ll be grand. 

If you do go that route, do your research on the DB side, as a lot more is involved in buying an instrument, and learning to play it. Don’t think of it as a bass - you’re learning a new family of instrument, with its own pitfalls and challenges. But it’s also incredibly fun and rewarding. Good luck!

Really useful advice, thanks!

I have a fairly good carbon fibre bow (Col Legno) which I like, but I would like to have a quality wooden bow as the sound is meant to be richer. I am certainly not ruling out that I will be disappointed and find nothing that surpasses the bow I currently have, in which case I will keep on saving and try again in a year or two. 

I find it interesting that it is so difficult to find bows privately for sale. I know this is a niche sport but there is no shortage of basses on the market. With bows you really only see a couple of high value old French bows posted, often from about £4k. Where are the people upgrading from their quality pernambuco shop bows? Do people just keep hold of these as spares maybe? 

I plan to spend the next months/year looking for a better French bow. Does anyone have any good recommendations for where to go to try out bows? I know of the Contrabass Shop, Thwaites, the Bass Place, as well as Stephen Thomson the bow maker. Is Malcolm Healey still going? Any other places I should put on the list? I am in London, but up for travelling around a bit if there are worthwhile shops or makers. Also if anyone knows of any bows privately for sale, I'd be interested to hear. 

I don't have the budget for a commissioned bow in all likelihood - budget up to around £1k.

That’s great! I would add that for me it took a week or two before I really started to feel the benefit. By that point I also had a much better idea which exercises really helped me and which were less important. 

Hi Dan,

I bought this book number of years ago after seeing it recommended on Talkbass:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Conquering-Carpal-Syndrome-Repetitive-Injuries/dp/1572240393/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=conquering+carpal+tunnel+syndrome&qid=1567690797&s=gateway&sr=8-1

It's a book of very gentle stretches, covering the hands and arms but also the whole rest of the body. Although I eventually found that my problems were not carpal tunnel or tendonitis, I have had so much benefit from the stretches in this book and am convinced that it is a big part of the reason why my symptoms have largely stayed away. 

The stretches are not very intensive, so won't do any harm - they are aimed at increasing circulation and activating the nerves where they might be blocked/pinched. In my case, I found that pain in my wrists and hands was actually to do with tension I held in my shoulders, neck and midriff. 

I don't have a stake in this but that looks like a perfect beginner bass - looks nicely set up, quality strings, sturdy case. It's even got position markers! Good luck with the sale. 

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