Bobo_Grimmer

Just sent the guy a message to ask if he's got a manual or a little bit more info in it.

[quote name='Rich' post='471429' date='Apr 24 2009, 12:41 PM']I had one of these preamps once. It was brilliant, especially the compressor. Superb in every way, I regret selling it actually. Highly recommended. As for a price? No idea. I sold mine for a ton, but that was 6 or 7 years ago now.[/quote]


Cool cheer's man. I'n the TE 12 band manual it has the GP12X pre but that's not the same as this one on ebay.

i did see on talk bass some american dude's selling them for about 150 to 200 usd. but that could have been an old thread.......

lol That's ok dude, i really can't find anything about it. i don't want to go bidding on it but i might.......

if anyone know's anything about this pre it would be great.

[quote name='dlloyd' post='470844' date='Apr 23 2009, 03:32 PM']Music theory needs to be learned in a fairly structured way for you to get the most out of it. Some musicians get the idea that they need to learn, say, the modes, and hack away at it without having any real understanding of what they're learning and why it might be useful. Then they give up on it, because it's too much to learn in one go.

The LCM have a graded popular music theory syllabus that is fantastic. To understand the material in grade 8 would be a daunting task for a beginner, but if you progress through the grades you'll get there no problem.

For instance, for preliminary grade, you have to know what constitutes C major, A natural minor, G major and E natural minor scales, how to construct C, G, Am and Em triads, what a whole, half and quarter note is, and what their respective rests are and what 4/4 time is.

If you can build on that, it's easy to understand the extra material that's required for grade 1. And from there you can easily build to grade 2.

And eventually you'll be able to build on grade 7 material, such that you understand major, natural minor, harmonic minor, melodic minor, pentatonic major, pentatonic minor, blues, Ionian, Dorian, Phrygian, Lydian, Mixolydian, Aeolian, Locrian, chromatic, whole tone, Phrygian major, Jazz melodic minor, Lydian dominant, Superlocrian and diminished scales in every key, extended and altered chords and their inversions, odd time signatures, syncopation, fairly advanced harmony, etc. etc.

And more to the point, you'll understand why you learned them.

[url="http://www.popularmusictheory.org/"]http://www.popularmusictheory.org/[/url][/quote]

WOW! cheer's dude. I really want to get stuck in. I'm kind of starting to realize that theory is my next step in my playing but it seem's a scary thing. Hacking away without having much understanding is where i'm going wrong. I'll look into this popular music theory.

[quote name='Aussiephoenix' post='470587' date='Apr 23 2009, 12:23 PM']I dont know if I agree with the OP completely...
Everyone is diferent, some deal with boring theory easily, others not really, some have a good ear, some dont.

With me, thats what got me playing, when a fine day, I found that I could pretty effortlessly "duplicate" the sounds I was hearing coming from the tapedeck on my dad's old guitar.
I didnt know what I was doing, but who cares? I was doing it!
When I got a bass, I obsessed with chillipeppers. I knew how to play all of BSSM and previous stuff. Every band that I came across since then, I've picked out a few riffs to learn...
I have no formal theory classes, and yet, when I jam something out within a band context, I dont sound like any of the people who's licks I've learnt in the past.

In relation to Theory... I've tried it, I simply cant focus long enough on it to get something useful from it. Bores the crap out of me.
What I cant figure out is... why do you put yourself through it? Unless you're aiming to make a living as a bassplayer, I dont see the point.

Reminds me of something a friend told me. "Everyone wants to be at the top, but they forget that happiness is on the way up."
Personally, I'd rather have fun on the way up, even if I dont make it as high as some of the others.[/quote]

+1 I'd love to get my teeth into some theory, and have tried, but i'm the same i can't stay with it. i just want to noodle.
Kind of make you feel a bit childish but i can't help it.

[quote name='dlloyd' post='470634' date='Apr 23 2009, 12:55 PM']Because it's interesting and useful.

If you're having difficulty focusing on it, there's a good chance you're aiming too high to begin with. It may be that you need to work on more basic material first.[/quote]

This is something that's been said before but what do you mean about aiming too high?
I've been playing bass for a few years and i'm trying again to look at the theory side of bass playing again and i've been reading through some of the lessons on [url="http://www.studybass.com/"]Study bass.com[/url]. Maybe i should try to find a local tutor?

bumpskie

Here's a pic of me when i first joined the Grimmer last year.

Always with the silly face.....

[quote name='jim_bass' post='470164' date='Apr 22 2009, 10:59 PM']1. Matt Freeman (Rancid)
2. Les Claypool (Primus)
3. Timmy C (R.A.T.M)[/quote]

thumbs up from me on these three dude! *low end hugs*

Just as another idea. I always recommend [url="http://www.bustercases.co.uk/"]Buster flight cases[/url]

Give James a buzz and he'll let you know what you need.

**run's over and hug's you** lefty with a rick!

[quote name='AM1' post='467654' date='Apr 20 2009, 05:35 PM']I couldn't agree more.

I started out by learning a few basslines and quickly concluded that this as a learning style is not really conducive to player development.

I've dumped learning other people's basslines and now spend hours writing/developing my own basslines and learning theory/technique stuff.

It takes a lot of discipline to step away from learning basslines, there are countless basslines I would love to sit down and learn. But what will I really gain in terms of musicianship?

Now and again I jam along to music to break up the boredom of theory, but ultimately doing proper music study is my weapon of choice.

Anyone can be a bassline jukebox if they put the hours in, but being an actual bass player is a different proposition.

All in my humble opinion.[/quote]

+1

[quote name='AM1' post='467671' date='Apr 20 2009, 05:46 PM']Amen to that. If you focus too hard on learning certain people's basslines, you constrain the development of your own style. I like to see a bass player with a distinct bass playing "personality".



Good example. There's plenty of these guys around and whilst they tend to be technically good, there's no feeling whatsoever in their playing.

Anyone can learn to become a "technician" by playing someone else's basslines in the same style. But a vast majority of players have not developed "musicianship" i.e. phrasing, feel, groove.

A player with fantastic phrasing beats a "technican" hands down, every time.[/quote]

I agree. i've gigged with people who blast thro some technical monstrosity during the sound check, the audience 'ooooh's' , the other muso's think, we're in for a good show, then they all get up there, 'we're the band bla bla' and play like a junior band from secondary school.

I used to, and still try sometimes, to learn some 'cool' riff's/lick's but i always find myself loosing interest in the original track and start jamming my own version.

I do know other musician's tho that do learn a lot from playing other peoples stuff. IMO Maybe some of use learn, practice and absorb musical skill ect in different way's. For some of us it seem's a wast and some of us it's essential.

[quote name='lowdown' post='469598' date='Apr 22 2009, 01:53 PM']'Things that musicians do that are a waste of time!, We all do it but we shouldn't....'

Endless hours of posting on Forums?....


Garry[/quote]

+1 lol

[quote name='gbm' post='469518' date='Apr 22 2009, 12:45 PM']I like the look of these but wonder about the cabs. They look a bit like the smallest box the drivers could be squeezed into.[/quote]

that's something that i wasn't that keen on.

[quote name='wotnwhy' post='469531' date='Apr 22 2009, 12:52 PM']and the extra £120 for the footswitch doesn't make me want to jump at it either..[/quote]
that's a bit steep!

I still think that with the tuner, comp and switch mode psu it's a good deal.....^_^ maybe a little over priced....

I'm interested in this trace pre but i can't find anything about it on the TE site. Does anyone else have one or know alittle about them? How much might one go for?


[url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Trace-Elliot-GP12-SMX-Bass-pre-amp_W0QQitemZ150340082951QQihZ005QQcategoryZ58719QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ht_500wt_975"]Trace Elliot GP12 SMX Bass pre-amp[/url]

look's like if one could get the moneys together you could get a complete bass stack and full flight cases for the lot all from TC Electronic's. that's

[quote name='Musicman20' post='468714' date='Apr 21 2009, 04:22 PM']Yeah i heard these have just come in stock.

They look very high tech.

What is the volume like with them?

Can you power two 8ohm cabs or 1 4Ohm and sound like a full on rock rig?

They are a bit more than the Shuttle so im not sure what to do! Shuttle 6.0 Max, standard 6.0, this new head, a LMIII, or even a GK 1001 RB II.[/quote]


Look's like you can connect two or 3 2x10 or 2x12 or a combination of the two, like a 2x12 and a 2x10

[url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/RS210.asp"]RS210[/url]

[quote name='2x18' post='468670' date='Apr 21 2009, 03:51 PM']Got my Rebelhead 450 a few weeks ago and it still brings a smile to my face.

The 3 presets are a very good feature and it also has a very good compressor and the best tuner I have ever used.(even better than my previous Korg DTR200 tuner and that takes some beating! )

Will.[/quote]


Cool. It does seem like a great idea and real easy to get around with i expect. tuner built in and presets helps for cutting down on gear you gotta remember on the way out the house in a hurry.

How much control do you really get over the comp with just the one knob?



What i think is really good is the switch mode psu. that's something that all amps should have.

I'm off work at the mo after an op. Have spent most of the day playing my acoustic in the garden as it's a real nice day. I've just popped in the house to have a bit of lunch and i get an email news letter about some audio stuff and i stumbled across this bass amp by TC Electronic's.

[url="http://www.tcelectronic.com/rh450.asp"]RH 450[/url]

There's a couple of video's and stuff. i don't know what they sound like yet but it's got some really interesting features that i thought might be of interest.

[quote name='cheddatom' post='355011' date='Dec 15 2008, 02:49 PM']Lots of people advocate the use of two rigs - clean, and effected. I tried this, sending purely clean bass to my peavey 1 x 15" combo, and purely effected bass to my johnson 2 x 12" guitar combo. It sounded OK. I messed with it for ages trying to get a great sound, but nothing I did got close to the sound I was getting using a blended pedal board running into the peavey AND the johnson on a crossover.[/quote]


+1

I use'd to have similar problems with effects. I found myself always turning them off again just never quite being happy with what i was hearing from the amp till one day an idea hit me! why don't i try running the effects high pass and in parallel with my clean tone. YAY! now my effects are clear and so is my bass. Not all effects work like this remember. like fuzz. that kind of effect relies on the setting of volume and tone from the instrument.

[quote name='peted' post='464326' date='Apr 16 2009, 07:43 PM']I've used ER20s for a few years now and I love them [b]because[/b] they make my bass stand out in the onstage mix. Don't be afraid to turn your amp down if you feel you need to, the sound engineer certainly won't mind! It does take my bands a while to adapt to having a bassist who doesn't play on 10 all the time though [/quote]


Hum yeah maybe i should turn down just a tad more than the norm. I find it lucky to have, but at the same time a curse, to have a big bass rig. I have thought of getting some smaller cabs thinking that maybe if i move less air that might help. But i don't know if i can part with my old TE 8X10".........

[quote name='XB26354' post='463386' date='Apr 15 2009, 08:55 PM']Interestingly I read in the London Paper today that last year UK bands made more money (£1.28bn) from touring than from selling records (£1.24bn) for the first time in years, indicating that most bands are having to go on the road to make even a decent living. When they do tour I'd imagine that the majority of it is outside the UK, probably mainland Europe, the US and the Far East.[/quote]

Oh no! Look's like we'll have to get off our arse's and do what we do best.


[quote name='bubinga5' post='463391' date='Apr 15 2009, 09:01 PM']It depends on what music scene you follow..If its popular music like all the 'haircut bands' as i heard someone say on here, its allways bored me...they all sound the same[/quote]


haircut band that's great.


We're looking into i tunes downloads and online sales ect. gig's are the main priority at the mo. we are in worrying times.

But on the up side check out how NIN are dealing with the downloading and stuff. Wow! trent really has his head screwed on!

Hello dude, I know that a few of the older stoner rock bands use bass amps with their guitars. That's what we do too. The sound is great. Check out Kyuss, masters of reality ect.

[quote name='lapolpora' post='463296' date='Apr 15 2009, 06:48 PM']I've never tried using the earplugs with bass yet as I don't gig on bass that much. As it's an amp making all the noise and not your physical self I'm surprised - I'll try it myself and see if I notice the same thing.

I'm just about to get a pair of those ACS earplugs. They work but reducing the db level rather than blocking out sound. Other horn players I know who have them speak highly of them. I'll post back when I've receive them and have gigged with them and let you know what I think. They take about a month to be made so it wont be until the end of May.

After trying everything else (including the obvious one of trying to get the band to play quieter) I thought I'd give them ago after I got thinking about all the (tens of) thousands of ££ I've spent on instruments and studio equipment over the years but only a few quid on protecting my ears.[/quote]


cheer's dude, I look forward to hearing about the ACS plugs. (I'm really thinking of getting some myself.)

I've been reading some of the older threads about Ear protection and i think it's a real important subject that should always be in our minds so i thought i'd start yet another (but on a slightly different note)

I've been in battle with my ER20's for a long time now. i need to be using them because i'm only young and i enjoy music production just as much as live playing and for that i really need my ears. The ER20's are very good and take the level of everything down but keep it all level and clear.

But....

While i have them in the bass seams louder. I understand about head room but this thought of the bass being too loud roll's around in my head while we play and it distracts me from listening to what everyone else is playing and prevents me from relaxing into the groove. So normally half way through a jam i'll stop and be throwing them aside in frustration.

Does anyone else find this sort of thing while using ear plugs?

Or am i just weird?

P.S.
I did think that maybe it's the protection that i'm using that might be the problem.
I've seen on , [url="http://www.musicradar.com/gear/all/drums/drum-accessories/er-custom-hearing-protectors-199201/review?src=nl&attr=150409"]music radar[/url] , some custom hearing protection but they are a little expensive.

[quote name='martthebass' post='462062' date='Apr 14 2009, 01:01 PM'] Have any of you guys got to the point where you think your bass gear is better than you are (or even worse - could be)?

Don't get me wrong I love to play on a really nice bass but when you go to the odd jam night and someone plays the hell out of a £100 bass does it make you feel like leaving your £1000 baby in the gig bag and hacking about on the 'house bass'?[/quote]


For me, being a lefty, it is a little easier, but i know what you mean. Down here in Bournemouth people in pub's and club jam nights are terrible. You get a whole league of "musicians" stood at the bar judging you for what your getting out of that flight case or wheeling in from the car. Pisses me off and makes me not want to play sometimes. What i think of now is that we're all here to play and enjoy the music that we're creating. Who give's a fluff what that kickin riff is played on/thro?

When i first started Playing bass i felt so bad. I was real lucky to get some money left to me, about 1500, so i went out and got the best i could with the money. Then i hated getting my new gear out of the car because some of the snooty look's you'd get and horrible heckal's as you enter the pub and start playing, and then they see that i've only been playing about six months.

That's one thing i've battled with for years. Am i really good enough to play this stuff? Who and what is Good anyway?