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I saw them play a couple of years ago... really not so much my bass playing but the music was great and Doug strikes me as a very open and nice guy.

I for one hear a massive difference in tonal variation in alder and ash basses specifically, I don't really care so much if there aren't that many people who agree tbh. But I understand also that throwing active electronics and different pickups in a bass will have a huge effect as well. I hear difference in maple and rosewood also, and bolt-on and neck through design. I generally Fender style ash/alder basses with maple fretboards and usually passive electronics, because a. there's less to go wrong, and b. I think that that specific style of bass is completely honest, which I love.

The whole 'exotic top' thing doesn't really excite me massively, although I do love spalted maple, I think it works great as a top.

I've also got to agree with an earlier post... conversation about bass construction on a bass forum? Sacrilege! Come on, if you're not interested in the convo, don't get involved!

Yeh mate, I'm with you on the Liverpool thing, although chances are slim for us I think (even I'll admit it). Have a good gig

Yeh I'd be cool putting a Chaka Khan tune I've just got through transcribing called 'Fate'. Bass provided by Anthony Jackson... i'll proof-read it later on and send it to you if you're interested mate.

Great session player from over in the U.S. He's a bit of a monster... check him out.


[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PQKZuMdLDE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PQKZuMdLDE[/url] (him playing with Abe Laboriel Jr. on a session for Taylor Mesple)

And I'm not usually one for solo bass playing but this kind of blew me away:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmrEQwWjsYI&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmrEQwWjsYI...feature=related[/url]

Great stuff Simon... will check it out asap. Hope everything is good with you, haven't spoken in a while!

I guess they've got to pander a bit to their audience so suggestions like Teen Town would be out of the question.

Actually off the top of my head, I can't really think of any!

I good way of getting back on it I would say is joining a band. You get money from it, and have a damn good time playing live too. Other than that it sounds like you just need to explore some avenues of playing that perhaps you haven't been down before.

You've only been playing a year, so you should stick at it. Woodshed, get some practice in and just generally get inspired!

Yep, pretty important this actually. Check ours out at www.myspace.com/bikergroove

Mee-shell Ne-dejeo-chello is how I would say it. (I'm not great at that phonetic spelling!) Great player.

[quote name='Stuart Clayton' post='429073' date='Mar 9 2009, 09:12 AM']I reviewed a Celinder J4 for the bass mag about 6 years ago and it was just utterly awesome. It's the only bass other than the GB Rumour that I reviewed in the first issue that made me want to sell everything I have in order to get one! I never did, but I know damn well that at some point there will be a Celinder in my collection. Really great basses.

Stu[/quote]

I remember that review, it really made me want to look further into Celinders. There seem to be quite a few companies offering boutique Jazz basses across the water but I like the idea of supporting a European builder like Chris, who seems to have a great outlook on the whole uber-Jazz bass thing.

I don't think the 'Sweet Child of Mine' bass line is straight forward at all, especially not for a player getting on their feet. It's pretty involved. Having said that, it's probably a good one to learn by ear. If you're into that picked thing, check out some Smiths basslines, Andy Rourke had some pretty great melodic chops.

I thought that too

I used to have problems with both of my hands where they would seize up with cramp and I literally couldn't move them whilst playing, although I haven't had it recently. I think it's actually a very good idea to warm up before playing, I usually have a bit of a warmup with the sound check.

How come I've missed this place??? I literally walk past there everyday. I'll have to check it out by the sounds of things.

I love the Phil, it's a great pub. Great toilets too!

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='428528' date='Mar 8 2009, 12:40 PM']If it helps, maybe leave your name with Alex and tell him you'd like to try one? Chris Celinder sometimes sells used basses on consignment through them as well as new ones. All the basses I've owned have been through the Gallery at one time or another and the used ones have been at quite reasonable prices.[/quote]

I might do that. I'm really interested in the Update J's.

[quote name='Crazykiwi' post='428241' date='Mar 7 2009, 09:31 PM']They have a good reputation but don't believe the hype. Try one if you get a chance and let the bass speak for itself. This is what the bass bashes were originally arranged to do.[/quote]

I have indeed tried a couple of Sadowskys when I was last at the gallery and I liked them a lot, just never a Celinder. I should have probably jumped on those bass bashes.

[quote name='bass_ferret' post='428303' date='Mar 7 2009, 11:28 PM']Here we go again. Whats up? Is it a case of "I can only afford a cheap bass so anyone with an expensive bass is a c***"? I dont have to apologise to anyone for my GB's - I can afford them and thats all there is to it. They look, play and sound fabulous. Better than a Squire VMJ? Yes in my opinion. YMMV[/quote]

Don't get me wrong, if I wasn't a 19 year old student with other things to pay for I'd get a nice friggin' F-Bass. I wouldn't assume jealousy is the bone of contention here, rather that some people care less about how much a bass costs and more about how good it sounds and how well the player plays.

[quote name='bassace' post='428233' date='Mar 7 2009, 09:12 PM']10k - but how well do you play? On another subject (sorry) I've just watched the repeat of this week's Grand Designs. The bloke paid £40k for the staircase, all because his wife's an arty moo. One born.............[/quote]

Yeh, but I can actually see the value of those stairs, the whole veneer was absolutely amazing.

I think generally you pay for quality, personally I think a lot of boutique style models are overpriced but it's your money, and in most cases you get what you pay for.

I hear they're the best, and I've wanted one for a long long time now. I think I'd be apprehensive about putting an order down on one at the moment because I'm torn between doing so and maybe getting a Sadowsky next... but I think I'll keep my eyes peeled in the next few months for a second hand one.

I have a real problem when people reel off a list of how expensive their gear is if I've just met them for the first time, whatever makes that person think I wanted to know the price of their gear in the first place is beyond me because I couldn't care less. I find the whole subject fairly embarrassing to discuss actually, it makes me feel uncomfortable. Likewise, I find it intolerable when people at gigs ask me how much my gear is, I secretly want to tell them to cram it!

It Ain't Over Till It's Over - Lenny Kravitz

[quote name='Clockworkwar' post='426932' date='Mar 6 2009, 09:24 AM']I am get lots of offers at my school, have just done the Wiz. Learned the whole lot in two weeks.[/quote]

The Wiz is a demanding show for a bass player! Anthony Jackson played bass for most of Quincy Jones's Wiz sessions, and I think Louis Johnson did the rest.

Unlikely to be Freddie Washington, though it would be amazing to see him in action... he's a killer player. Nathan East has played with him before as well, but I have a nasty feeling he might just bypass the bass player altogether, which would be a shame because they were more or less the best part about 'Live in Bucharest'.

Man, I'm just gutted this sale didn't come in a few months instead of now, I would have put an offer in faster than I could type the PM. I'm sure that's not incredibly helpful info but I am gutted, I've wanted a Celinder for a very long time. A reasonable offer as well for such a great bass.

Very nice