spacey

Cheers, wonder if he visits here and can fill us in on this monster tone he gets.

Any one know how to put the Video Inline ?

Video surfing, found this incredible Precision tone on this.
Simplicity of the maple neck precision.
Andy Carr present player with Scottish Rockers "Gun"

Sounds like some DI over drive pedal really dragging that growl and bottom end out.
[url="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_klewFquG5k"]https://www.youtube....h?v=_klewFquG5k[/url]

[quote name='machinehead' timestamp='1426106574' post='2714564']
Not correct I'm afraid, and potentially dangerous.

There is so much misinformation here that I'm not going to offer any more advice other than - get someone in who's a qualified electrical engineer.

I have over 40 years experience in electrical engineering, including a period lecturing, plus an electrical apprenticeship in 1973 and 20 years as a lead electrical engineer in the shipbuilding and the oil industries, working all over the world. I've designed many generation/power distribution systems.

In spite of this experience, what I've realised through this thread, is that it's just too dangerous to offer advice like this over the internet.

Get a qualified electrical engineer in.

Frank.
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+1

[quote name='TimR' timestamp='1426100454' post='2714433']
It's AC. The earth is for protection only. The earth is not a conductor.
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That back to where we started, it will have no earth and a live 240V AC.
If it pisses it down, unless the RCD system is tested and found to be working, the risk of a fry up is on the cards.
canal boats, birds on wires, ships at sea and it will be right everyone else does it, will not stop an accident, only a correctly tested system that passes the basics will.
Only an Electrician with testing qualifactions can safely make that call.

[quote name='Ancient Mariner' timestamp='1426095617' post='2714360']
Exactly this. And if you're standing on the flat wooden bed of the truck, itself a good insulator, then it won't matter if the strings carry a potential difference of 240V because there's now way for the electricity to flow. IIRC the generators I've used on carnival floats in the past (designed for industrial use) all had RCCD circuit breakers built in.

Don't earth the genny in any way and all will be fine.
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If this were true, none of the equipment would work.

To be 100% Honest here, there is a very good reason only people who are "qualified" are allowed to mess with mains electricity and Gas.
You have either sat down, passed the exams and got your paper work or you have not.
There is no "I know enough to do this" .
My best advice is, ask the system is tested by a qualified papers holding electrician with a mains tester that will trip test the breaker system.
Or let them get another mug to do it.

The fake Chinese Gibsons are ariving in UK thick and fast in nice cases, they are good to fair copies but they are also fooling a lot of people and changing hands at big money, seen flying v basses, LTD edition SG basses all cased with all paper work, tags, books.
The give away is the neck wood is just not quite right, but only an expert in Gibsons would spot one, the casual buyer is going to get stung.

Like one of those fairground blokes who rode the waltzers hands in pockets looking hard as Red light spells danger played, Ubber cool !

What will the RCD measure against ?

[quote name='ColinB' timestamp='1426000570' post='2713264']
Nope - I do, too.
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How about this then,.
Nasty cheap chinese slave labour junk !
Behind the sofa yet ?

Sounds more like a mid cut issue, two pick ups scopping mid ? EQ on mid cut ?
You get to that area and it really digs the sound out.
A compressor pedal might even things out more, the Berhinger one does the job for £20.

I suppose the upside is if its a popular event, it will be on liveleak if it goes wrong.

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1425995896' post='2713189']
I may not be one of those, I reckon. I started out on an Ibanez Ric copy,
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They were on of the few copies that could get the body thickness and headstock pitch angle about right.

How many amps will your gear need, is it a full band ?
that will have to be some genny if it is.

Someone qualified to sign off 240V equipment, I am sure they are some regulations as to who can do such work .
However I can not see them going to any such lenghs, these things are usually organised by people who smoke too much gear to worry about the band getting electrocuted .
Then the other sceanrio, billy bodgit wires it up and says its fine, is he is going to prison if anything goes wrong ?.
I would say, battery amps, it is going to need a fair sized genny to power a full band and PA rig, then there is the issue of it frying your bespoke amp head if it breaks and goes native.

A canal boat has a correctly fitted and referenced RCD circuit by a qualified electrician,
Somehow I think the Generater will be just lifted on the lorry ten minutes before to stop it getting nicked and a four way slung out.
Comapring this to a correctly fitted system and saying it will be fine, never really works out in the real world, what you going to do if the Genny is not bonded to the lorry and tested by an electrician and signed off with a certificate.
Hope for the best is the answer .

If thats the case, you wont want one, no problem, stick with the copy.

I would say they cost so much, because the people who can afford them disagree they are a poorly made instrument.

Market forces, supply outstrips what they make and has done for many years.
A greedy boss would cash in and start knocking out Chinese junk, a clever one, knows he might be better been happy with making a good living over a longer period.
But to do this, they must protect the brand and tradmark, all succesful companies do, try selling supermarket pop as Coca cola or pepsi and see how long you get away with it.
Fender decided to turn a Blind eye and look where that lead them and now Gibson are doing the same and we are seeing fake Gibson basses, even SG specials landing daily, the latsest snide offerings.
The only people who appear to get upset are those wanting to buy snide.

[quote name='charic' timestamp='1425992555' post='2713124']
Wireless?
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Belt for the braces !

The issue is, the Human body creates a very good earth conducting point, it is a bag of water, hence why so many people get electrocuted each year.
240v, no actual earth point (clue is in the name "EARTH") is in my opnion playing a bit close to the wind.
Add in the fact it might start raining and you have all the recipee for a fry up.

Better still, battery equipment, the risk of creating a large toaster on wheels is not worth it.

Is it waterproofed ? Covered ?
If not add that in and well, see yer in the next one bud.

Yes, exatcly that via you first however it would have no way of knowing if you are a big fat valve amp drawing the current or a human getting electrocuted. .

I doubt anybody has thought about it.
Rubber tyres wont help,in fact the opposite all it needs is a circuit, if the genny malfunctions, your getting fried.
Earthing is a protection, the idea is the current heads to earth instead of using you as an earth.

Not having an earth wont protect you from electrocution, in fact it makes it much more likely to happen, thats why we went from two wires to three in the 70's.

Every fret w4anker going hates them, they made millions from simple songs with open chord structures and sold millions of records.
Every muscians worst nightmare, "look at me play my instrument and bow before me...
Nah Noel gallaghers sing sally can wait, see yer bud....

What they did do, was show pop music is about "songs" not muscianship.
The two can go together, but if you can not write a simple singalong anthem, then it will never get you that far.

Gave up on them, dead strings in sets too often for me.
That and they grind your frets down.