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Sandberg Panther Special - reduced from £1900 to £1300
falling_in2_infinity replied to Nick upson's topic in Basses For Sale
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I thought I'd add some comments about this bass, as people might be interested. Received it the other day, after it being on order for months... My history with Bongos: I've owned a 5-string HS 2008 model, a 6-string HH 2009-ish, and I currently own a 5-string 2019. I prefer the 2019, mostly for the lightweight tuners and other subtle improvements. I actually started playing Bongos because of the ergonomics: Several things about their design have significantly reduced wrist and shoulder pain when playing. To some extent, it combined some elements of the tonal power of my old G&L basses, with the lighter weight and 24-frets of my Ibanez SR Premiums. Two things I really don't like about Bongos (5's, especially): The close proximity of the G-string to the edge of the fretboard (I made my own nut to slightly improve this). Yes, technique obviously can mitigate this, too. The lower 'horn' digs into my thigh, and is quite painful to play seated. I tend to put a leather strap between bass and leg when I practice, to mitigate this. Everything below assumes you already appreciate the Bongo, both in terms of sound and aesthetics... Why did I consider this Sterling Bongo? Mostly just curiosity. Plus, I do want a lightweight and ergonomic 34-inch, 5-string bass that I could just leave set up with a high action, as a different option to my main Bongo. Initial impressions: It certainly looks like a Bongo. It weighs around the same. The paint quality is ok, but feels a bit cheap to touch The same is true of the neck, although I've never been a big fan of the feel of roasted maple. The frets are poorly finished at the ends, with sharp bits that have already sliced my hand. However, the frets also aren't rolled quite as much as my 2018 US model, which makes the G-string feel further away from the edge of the fret (there's more actual fret under the string, as it were). Talking of things that are actually better than the USA Bongo, the lower horn doesn't dig into my thigh as much, because it's not rounded to a point, which spreads the weight out just a little more: Note, the same is also true of the headstock, where they've not really bothered rounding-off the edges of the 'point'. This means that not only is is still highly susceptible to damage, it's now usable as a weapon. Moving on... The neck dives like Tom Daley with an anvil tied to his ankles. I've had the machine heads off, and they weigh around 90g each. For me, it would be essential to reduce the overall headstock weight by around 140g, which I could easily achieve using lighter hardware. This would improve the balance and significantly reduce dive. The sound is quite disappointing (as expected). The lack of Bongo pickups, and the 4-band EQ, both result in this being a very different sounding instrument. Unfortunately, not only does it sound different, it also sounds quite cheap, and reminds me of a pretty nasty Traben bass I had once. I've not played any other Sterling models, but I understand the pickups and preamp are standard on some Sterling Ray models, so YMMV. The overall feel of the bass is just a little feeble. It might just be the tonal issues playing with my head, but I'll swear that it doesn't feel as nice under my hands. The frets and fretboard both feel a bit cheap under my fingers. This all around reminds me a lot of the impressions I got from the Strandberg Boden Prog that I tried a few years ago... a somewhat feeble and gutless instrument, of questionable build quality and playing feel. At least this Bongo is only £999, although I reckon any Ibanez or Yamaha of similar price would be a better overall package. In all, I think it's the kind of thing you should only buy if you really love the Bongo shape, but don't care about how it sounds or feels to play (this seems slightly counterintuitive to me, as many people hate the look but like the sound). I'm left wondering if I should return it, or if investing around £700 in improved hardware and electronics would make enough of a difference. £1700 is around what I paid for my USA model on Reverb, but they don't come up very often! I hope this was all helpful to someone. The headstock point:
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Chapman Stick 10 String - *SOLD*
falling_in2_infinity replied to herr rocket's topic in Basses For Sale
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Yamaha TRB6 P2 *ON HOLD* - *SOLD*
falling_in2_infinity replied to Alane2512's topic in Basses For Sale
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Offers considered. 🙂 No trades, I'm afraid. I'm selling my absolutely beautiful Spector NS Pulse II 5-string, in Ultra Violet Matte finish. Purchased from Andertons earlier this year. The condition of the bass is excellent, and has only seen light use at home. Absolutely no blemishes or issues of any kind. Non smoking home, of course. It's a really excellent sounding bass, and plays beautifully. The recent basstheworld review did it justice. It has many of the characteristic Spector qualities: Comfortable ergonomics, easy neck, quality hardware, rich tones. I think the finish is gorgeous, purple stain on quilted maple top. I'm sad to have to sell it, but it was only ever intended as a stop-gap while my Bongo was out of action. I'm open to offers, but no trades. Happy to ship the bass, in the original packaging. Specs: 5-string. 35" scale. Bolt-on Ash body with maple top (this, possibly veneer). Roasted maple neck, matte. Ebony fingerboard. Spector Tone Pump Jr. EMG pickups.
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Nut spacing: centre-centre, or edge-edge?
falling_in2_infinity replied to falling_in2_infinity's topic in Bass Guitars
Trouble is, I'm getting more curious the more I think about it. I suppose at least I know that all my basses are 9mm evenly-spaced c-c, and that I'm happy with that particular configuration. I do wonder if sometimes when I've tried a bass and it's felt odd under the hand, if it maybe had an irregular nut spacing. -
Nut spacing: centre-centre, or edge-edge?
falling_in2_infinity replied to falling_in2_infinity's topic in Bass Guitars
For completeness: Sandberg California TM2 5-string. Zero fret, ~9mm c-c spacing: Spector NS Pulse II, ~9mm c-c spacing. I also measured my Ibanez SR505F, and it's the same... But no photo because it's in a mess. 🤣😥 -
Nut spacing: centre-centre, or edge-edge?
falling_in2_infinity replied to falling_in2_infinity's topic in Bass Guitars
Yep, I concur with this. The stewmac page has a focus on guitars, and those differences would definitely be too small for my fingers to notice. Maybe that's why I'm a bass player. 😁 -
Nut spacing: centre-centre, or edge-edge?
falling_in2_infinity replied to falling_in2_infinity's topic in Bass Guitars
OG Bongo 5 nut (~9.5mm centre-centre): Steinberger spirit (the zero-fret has string grooves, so determines the ~9mm c-c spacing): -
Nut spacing: centre-centre, or edge-edge?
falling_in2_infinity replied to falling_in2_infinity's topic in Bass Guitars
Apologies. I've re-written it in an attempt to add clarity - but yes, your summary is correct. I'd never thought about it either. It just made me curious about others' experiences.
