Biggsy

[quote name='BOD2' post='225119' date='Jun 23 2008, 04:03 PM']Well, if you use two 8 ohm cabs together that would give you a 4 ohm load. So you'd have the same amp, but two cabs.[/quote]
Ah, you beat me to it! I do currently run 2 8ohm cabs - Aguliar GS112's, just not enough surface area now my musical direction has become heavier.

[quote name='BOD2' post='225119' date='Jun 23 2008, 04:03 PM']If this interests you then popular advice is that the best results might be obtained with two cabs with the same speaker sizes rather than going for a different size speaker in the second cab. There's a recent thread on this.[/quote]
I'd like to read that actually, I imagine it's one of those that could be discussed forever.. I'll 'ave a search

[quote name='BOD2' post='225119' date='Jun 23 2008, 04:03 PM']Another alternative is to go for a more efficient speaker cab (e.g. the BFM type). There are threads on this here too.[/quote]
I don't think cabs get much more efficient than my current ones, but certainly something to look out for if I do want to switch.

It's a toughie - My question has been prompted somewhat by seeing Geester's GS112's for sale. I wondered about switching for a 4x10 and leaving room to upgrade, or even adding another pair of GS112's in the future. I'm so happy with my amp and cabs I didn't really want to risk switching for anything else, and the idea of 4 GS112's instead of two (after hearing the difference between 1 and 2) made me a little moist.

[quote name='ste_m3' post='225116' date='Jun 23 2008, 04:01 PM']Hmm, id say buy an eden pre-amp then buy a poweramp thatl go down to 2 ohms, but the navigator might be a bit overkill :/[/quote]

Yeah, I'm trying to avoid spending much money; would the DI-out (post EQ) not do the same thing? It's a hybrid amp wtith a tube pre section, I feel like I've nailed a sound that I really like..

I suppose another option is simply exchanging for two bigger 8ohm cabs.

Money money money :wacko:

Thinking about it, are there any other ways to achieve my goal of being able to use my Eden with 2ohms worth of cabs? Perhaps modifying the electronics, some kind of impendance converter or something?

I'm not too bothered about the power aspect, I just want to move more air

There's a couple of line level outputs from what I understand, if the DI counts as one.

From how you understood my mail, am I right in thinking that line-level isn't subject to any impendance, or at least that impendance is so (low/high?) it becomes irrelivant?

I guess that would make sense.

Hi guys,

I want to add more beef to my rig by way of extra cabs. To do so, I'd need an amp that can carry a 2ohm load.

I have an Eden WT300 (4ohm) which I couldn't love the sound of more. I've heard of some people using it as a pre-amp, and then going through a power amp for more headroom.

Is it possible to take a 4ohm signal from a pre, feed it into a power amp that converts it to 2 ohms, thereby being able to run 4 8ohm speakers?
If anyone has any reccomendations I'm not adverse to used gear (infact I prefer it) and will be on a pretty limited budget. (probably under the 200 bean mark)

Apologies if I've used the wrong terminology, hopefully I've conveyed what I want to know!

Cheers,
Biggsy

Argh, I'd have loved to have swapped my GS112's straight up if this was an 8ohm version. Not that that helps anyone..

If Geester's cabs fall through drop me a message!

As part of my day job, I get to make the music for the computer games we create. I've done full Midi scores before, but this is my first using virtual instruments and samples. (+ a jot of regular recording)

The tracks are only small loops to save on filesize but overall I think it sounds pretty good. Would be interested to hear any feedback going as I'm looking to improve - although I am already aware that it can sound like lift music!

A one-hour free trial is avaliable for download from [url="http://www.margravemanor.com/"]http://www.margravemanor.com[/url], and if you find you want to play it for any longer shoot me a PM!

Edit: I notice it's currently the number one download on [url="http://www.bigfishgames.com/download-games/3521/the-secret-of-margrave-manor-game/index.html"]BigFishGames[/url], if you don't want to go through the fuss of downloading the trial, they have a promo video they've put together on their site. Beware, the audio is horribly compressed!

[quote name='stug' post='211021' date='Jun 2 2008, 11:41 AM']I'm a big fan of EHX's English Muff'n[/quote]

+1

I originally bought mine for some crunchy distortion. I now use it for the exact purpouse you describe, and love it

Here's mine, which I doubt I'll ever finish:

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Lacking any modulation, and needing a couple of loops. (and clearly in need of a set of GeorgeL's!)
Might have to bin either the Qtron or Bassballs to make room, but I'll see how it goes.

[quote name='dood' post='205671' date='May 24 2008, 07:24 PM']C1 is nearest in frequency to the fabled 'pink note'[/quote]

Is that the pink note of Howard Stern fame?! I've heard of Pink Noise, which I think is kind of 'all frequencies at an equal level', used to test the acoustics of a room. (or something)

Good luck (!) fella, I might be out in Cambridge that night, if so I'll stop in for a gander

If you still have it then, I'll take it.

What are the chances of you travelling further South one day, with the opportunity to have the rig in tow?

Longshot I know, but you're just too faaar! Anywhere south of Nottingham and I'd love to buy that.

[quote name='Mottlefeeder' post='199793' date='May 15 2008, 06:03 PM'][url="http://www.cubase.net"]http://www.cubase.net[/url] is the official forum[/quote]

Really good resource although whatever you do, don't ask a question on there. Not unless you want to be jumped on by 50 people explaining how the search facility works.

Edit: Useful input: There are some great video tutorials on youtube; I much prefer seeing what's going on on screen, makes it easier to follow when they use words I don't understand. Which is a lot.

Probably priced a little highly but lovely looking bass! Dave Grohl uses one (the guitar version of course) in the Foo's 'All my Life' video (I think) and I saw a bass version for the first time on another video a couple of days ago but for the life of me can't remember who it was! Would have been interesting to find out if it was the actual bass in the recording and to hear how it sounds..

[quote name='CHRISDABASS' post='200093' date='May 16 2008, 06:38 AM']anyone interested?

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Highly, but probably way out of my league at the moment..

Unless you'd fancy a swap for an Eden WT300?

[quote name='crez5150' post='198449' date='May 14 2008, 07:30 AM']Anyone interested??[/quote]

Potentially in just the mixer and / or the amp; If you're willing to split could you PM me best prices for the mixer, and the mixer & amp please?

Have a look on the warwick.de forums - I've seen straplocks sold there and you may well find other pimp-worthy parts

Good luck!

You flogged this yet mate?

How moveable is the price?

Might be worth taking that up with the colleague: If it were halved, I'm sure it's disappear pretty quick.. Considering it's done a stint on ebay without sale, advertising a lower price would hopefully get things moving.

Is this the whole rig, or actually just the speakers?

[quote name='Jamesemt' post='179825' date='Apr 18 2008, 03:16 PM']Looks like its a bit of a minefield [/quote]

PC's (and Mac's to a degree) will always cause their fair share of headaches with high-resource apps like audio sequencers. I guess what I was trying to get accross is that a well thought out, considered approach will give better results, but you knew that!

Sorry for the huge reply - I'm a bit over-enthusiastic about PC recording at the moment after reading a huge amount into it while I try to decide how to upgrade. I don't mean to put you off by any means, more of a mind-vomit on my behalf

I'm positive you could be up and running with a nice stable system easily for 300 quid. Which sequencer were you thinking of using?

[quote name='Jamesemt' post='169647' date='Apr 4 2008, 09:55 AM']I've just bought a Zoom H2, and after having recorded with it once, have REALLY got the bug for recording rehearsals (for no other reason than I want to ).

I've also got a PC lying around at home doing very little (use laptops for the net, and have a RAID1 external hard drive for photos and stuff). The PC was the dogs bollocks about a year ago (so is obviously ready for the rubbish tip in PC terms...). I forget the specs, but is running a Core Duo chip, has 2GB of RAM and plenty of HD space (got loads of hard drives lying around - probably enough for about 700GB).

What's going to be the cheapest way of recording rehearsals? I'm thinking I'll need an 8 input soundcard, multitrack software and the mics. Anything else? The rehearsal room has a few mics lying around, and has a basic PA (which I can take a feed off for the vocals??).

Anything blatantly obvious I've missed? Band consists of me on bass, one guitarist, drummer, keyboard and vocals. My only concern is can I use regular mics for drums? How much are decent but budget drum mics?

Willing to spend whatever it takes for a cheapish setup (ie £500 would be good, could MAYBE stretch to £1k at a push).

Any thoughts?[/quote]

My advice would be to plan as far forward as possible. I've found once you start recording, it's a serious bug that needs feeding, much like the 'GAS' many bassists report!

I started in pretty much the same way; just wanting to record rehearsals / jams, and to put down song ideas at home to share with my band mates. So, I got a firewire interface to connect to my laptop. It did the job I wanted, but I soon found myself lusting after the thick, fulll, rich sounds of a professional mix down. After a while of 'self directed study' I've realised it's very possible to achieve very convincing results with a few gear upgrades here and there, and a few basic techniques.

By the sounds of it your PC is very capable. Because I don't like rooting around inside my PC's and like the ability to use my interface on other machines, I prefer firewire interfaces. If that's the direction you go, check the brand of your FW chipset before making a decision as there are known issues in compatibility from certain manufacturers.

I think you'll need 12+ inputs and outputs with the setup you described; Drum mics alone will take up 5 or 6 slots. You could possibly get away with 8, but will soon hunger for more IMO!
You can pick up a 48kHz 8 channel interface quite easily for 150 quid (I did) but again, think forward! If your budget allows, go for a 96/128kHz interface with good quality pre-amps (and at least a couple of channels with phantom power for your overhead mic's) and ideally the option to expand.
RME is probably the best around - the Fireface range is very desireable and you may pick a unit up for about 350 beans if you're lucky. I'm told the pre's are incredible.
Motu would be my other reccomendation as they offer unparalelled driver support for their range.
With both brands you can 'daisychain' more units at a later date if you require more channels, with no need to upgrade anything on your PC (aside from perhaps the FW card to the new firewire 800 (IE1394a) to allow for the extra bandwidth.)

Drum-mic-wise, I tried using regular mic's, and, well, don't. The nicest kits can end up sounding like pots and pans. Ideally you're looking for a large diaphragm kick mic, one for between the snare and hats, two overheads and in an ideal world one for each tom. You can get everything you need for around 150 quid. (sans cables perhaps) Ebay is the most convenient place to find them, although you do have to be a bit careful with your selection when it comes to the bass drum mic. I know many people who have bought a capable set but have had to upgrade the kick mic for one reason or another. (Harmony Central is a wonderful resource for this kind of info!)

In both the mic sense and interface, you very much get what you pay for. I'd love to have a spare grand to throw at my setup, but as with many things it's difficult to know when to stop!

Regarding taking the vocals from an out on the PA, I'd reccomend you don't unless it's only ever going to be for band reference purpouses - the bleed will be huge and the singer won't preform well. By all means have him coming out of the pa while you record the rest of the band, (I do find it surprisingly difficult to remember my cues when I can't hear our singer) but you'll be much happier laying the vocal track(s) down afterwards. You also free up another channel this way.

I know I've rambled on for ages but I've only touched the tip of the iceberg. It's well worth reading up on if it's something you enjoy and there are loads of websites as reference. I don't know if anyone's mentioned it already, but Tweakhedz would be a great place to start: [url="http://www.tweakheadz.com/guide.htm"]http://www.tweakheadz.com/guide.htm[/url]

Blimey, longest post ever!!

A belated welcome!

Good luck on the lefty Jazz hunt.

I still have your screwdriver!

I found the amplification of Hartke to be excellent. Especially good if you can find an older Mofset model. The aluminium cones in my cab weren't wonderful but I've heard much worse. I'm sure VX series would be better.
My old head was a 10 year old (or so) HA3500 which just felt like it would last forever. The tone was warm, punchy and 'modern' - only slightly coloured by the tube pre depending on how you set it.

I've only heard Ashdown's and never used one, so my opinion of them isn't entirely valid.