Steve Spector

Just a quickie on the Aggie 12 cabs. If I were to get 2 DB212 cabs at 8 ohms each then wanted MORE volume, could I also get a 4 ohm DB412 and use all 3? So one lead from the amp to the 412 and one to a 212, then an out from this 212 to the other one?
Steve

[quote name='Alien' post='1090477' date='Jan 15 2011, 02:48 PM']It's not possible for a cab to switch between 4 and 8 Ohms and still have all the speakers working.

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What about this one [url="http://www.epifani.com/products/UUL_210BC.php"]http://www.epifani.com/products/UUL_210BC.php[/url] ?

Thanks for the clarification though guys

Steve

Just wondering, on the Aguilar website it says that the GS410 is 4 or 8 ohm, may be a daft question but does that mean you must order one or the other or will the one cab do both?
Steve

Just picked up a used Aguilar cab and it sounds really distorted on the low notes.
One thing I noticed was that the material inside seems to be hanging down in front of the ports (see pics) - could this have something to do with it?
Steve

[quote name='icastle' post='1087455' date='Jan 13 2011, 12:08 AM']I think the best way to judge it is by using your ears - if you can hear clipping then just back the volume down like we used to do before they started putting warning lights on gear... [/quote]

That's what I have been doing, easy enough, just sounded like this idea was a bit more scientific!
Steve

Just read a tip about setting gain levels, turn the master down to 0, then edge up the gain while plucking quite hard until the clip light comes on then back it off a bit and you're there.
Did this with my Spector Euro - seriously hot output active bass I believe - and even with Gain at max and even with the -6db switch disengaged the clip light never came on.
Should I expect it to?
Steve

[quote name='Lozz196' post='1086880' date='Jan 12 2011, 04:33 PM']Shameless hijack, but I may be selling my Marshall VBC 412 if that is of any interest?[/quote]

Got the 751 today. Was presuming I'd sell my Peavey Tour 450 but actually they look really nice stacked together!
Be interesting to see just the 2 compare over the next few days. At present only have the Peavey 410 cab to put the through the.
Learned something new today - I thought all Speakon connectors could take a 1/4" jack within them (the Peavey's can) but obviously some do and some don't - the Aggie don't so I had to pop out and buy a Speakon/jack cable.
Steve

[quote name='JTUK' post='1086187' date='Jan 11 2011, 10:35 PM']Tell you what, sell me your 750 and buy a LMll or something [/quote]

Thanks guys. I'm looking at a 412 to make good use of the head - just thinking it'd be massive massive overkill in a lot of circumstances and a little handy cab would be nice to have sometimes.
Steve

Would it be disastrous to put an Aguilar DB751 through a single GS112 when travelling light. The DB751 puts out 400W at 8 ohm, while cab is rated 300W at 8 ohm - obviously a slight mis-match, but would that be problematic? It would be for small places and therefore amp not turned up much, so should be safe or not?
Thanks,
Steve

[quote name='chris_b' post='1071664' date='Dec 29 2010, 12:25 PM']You'll also loose most of the punch from the 10's. I'm using my 12's for most gigs these days but deep down I really prefer the 10's.[/quote]

So a 212 and 410 could be a good combo?
Or would the 410 overpower the 212 like it would the 115?
Steve

[quote name='JTUK' post='1071317' date='Dec 28 2010, 10:10 PM']If the amp you are looking at goes down to 2 ohms..you have all this covered adn I would just get the 4ohm 2x12 at first.
You may find you don't need the second 2x12.[/quote]

I freely admit that it's more want than "need". It'd be a Fafner or TD660 so yes it'll give 2 ohms. Other alternative is a 212 and 115 mix. Or a single 810?

Steve

[quote name='pantherairsoft' post='1071268' date='Dec 28 2010, 09:03 PM']The Proline is not in my possession yet... It's on the way. I only need 1 can as it's more than loud enough!
When I have the money I'll sell the incoming Proline and get another Neo because it's lighter...[/quote]

Can I ask you why you got rid of your Fafner and got the TD650?
Steve

[quote name='JTUK' post='1071262' date='Dec 28 2010, 08:55 PM']If you are average sized venue/clubs/pubs, then a 500w amp into an 8ohm cab with give you 350 or so watts..which is more than enough..IF..your gtrs are sensible. If they are not..you are into ear-protection and most pubs couldn't have them in anyway..IMO.[/quote]

Thanks JT, as I also posted about 810s you can probably guess that I'm looking for a new setup and going through all the permutations! Thanks for all the advice - I need it!
Steve

[quote name='pantherairsoft' post='1071246' date='Dec 28 2010, 08:35 PM']I use 212's. I find they do the job of evening the sound better than other cabs. What I have found though is that one good one (like an EBS Neoline that can take 600w) I generally enough and I can't imagine needing to use 2 cabs.

My EBS Neo 212 does the job perfect!

Shep[/quote]

I see you have a Proline 212 and Neoline 212, do you ever use them together? It's EBS gear I'm looking at - a Fafner II with possibly 1 of each 212 cab.

Steve

What would be the better choice in general? I hear various suggestions that mixing a 410 and 115 gives an uneven combination. What would I lose with 2 212s instead?
Cheers,
Steve

[quote name='JTUK' post='1069432' date='Dec 26 2010, 02:07 AM']Ampeg 8x10 is 800watts so that should handle most amps. And they are low powered drivers for 10"
You aren't going to get a 15" anywhere near that output and nominaly half that. In order to get a power spread on the two cabs the 15" would need to be double the impedance of the 8x10 given those ratings..that is besides anything esle.
Why would you bother to do this when the 8x10 is such a big lift into the gig and would cover 99% of the time. The 15" would add nothing to the set-up...it isn't balanced in any way and you don't need the extra cab/speaker. There are other cab configs I'd consider and if you had a very large stage area and a concert rig then 2 8x10', but this 15" and and 8x10 is nothing but putting extra cabs on stage to no good effrect, IV/IME..therefore a useless idea.

Vanity gone wrong, I'd say.

I don't rate Ampeg 8x10's of old..... not sure this is an Ampeg you have, though.. and that is because I have played through too many tired hammered versions and the power was very low but I would fully expect them in decent nick to outperform a single 15" every day of the week and twice on sundays.

Certainly, Aguilar, Boogie, Orange and even Ashdown are all rated no less than 1200watts per cab..[/quote]

Brilliant, thank you very much.
All the best,
Steve

[quote name='AndyMartin' post='1069408' date='Dec 26 2010, 12:08 AM']Hey, it's Christmas day We're just fitting it in around all the other stuff we have to do today. You'll usually find JTUK to be one of the better informed posters on here[/quote]

No hard feelings, but if time's short it'd be better not to say anything. Saying "usless idea" really doesn't help at all, but I'll be genuinely interested in the follow up reasoning when JTUK has a bit more time. I am a bit of a novice and admit it, that's why I'm here!

Steve

[quote name='JTUK' post='1069321' date='Dec 25 2010, 08:15 PM']Useless idea....[/quote]

Thanks for the reply, but to be honest any reply that's not backed up by some sort of reason is not of any interest to me - I'm here to learn after all. If you carry on with "Useless idea ... because..." that would be great.
Thanks
Steve

[quote name='ahpook' post='1069232' date='Dec 25 2010, 01:00 PM']if you're wondering this on xmas morning i can only think that santa brought you a pretty darn sizeable present !!

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Pure coincidence! I've been looking at a new setup for a while. Was looking at a 410 and 115, but saw an 810 for a decent price and got me thinking. Sounds like it'd be pretty pointless.
On the other hand I'm not that keen on the idea of just an 810 as I like quite a deep boomy sound and wonder if I'd miss the 15".

Steve

I know this may sound a bit daft, but apart from the weight issue is there any reason not to hook up an 810 and 115 cab together? Would it be pointless or even not work?
Steve

Very little info about EBS gear anywhere, trying to get an idea of the difference between Neoline and Proline EBS cabs - apart from weight of course. Very different tone? Any reliability issues?
Cheers,
Steve

[quote name='LukeFRC' post='1063803' date='Dec 19 2010, 06:12 PM']why not see what the guys you mention play?[/quote]

I have been looking and continue to - but none of them play Spectors!

Why the Fafner JR? I know it's said to have this extra warmth, but would the TD660 not be able to give a warm punchy sound too with the right settings and bearing in mind it has a tube? I'm just aware that the Spector has it's own tone and characteristics and want to get something that'll work well with it.

The others I had on my list were a Markbass LMKIII and the Ampeg SVT (either SVT4 Pro or SVT VR).

Thanks both for the replies.

Steve

Been looking at the TD660, but heard lots about the clear "hi fi" sound that is so favoured by slap guys. I play rocky/punky/indie stuff like U2, Smashing Pumpkins, Cure, Elastica, Papa Roach and many others - what it isn't is funky, but it's not thrash metal either. What I'm looking for is traditional thumping and warmth I suppose. I've got a Spector Euro 4 and 5.

Now I know advice #1 would be try it myself, and I might well, but looking for any opinions/exeprience of this amp and especially with the Spectors.

Many thanks,

Steve