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This thread inspired me to do a ridiculous mash-up. 

It depends on the part.  And what kind of attack you want. 

I'm still having silly fun here. 

Yeah, yeah, I know -- it doesn't fit.  I did it anyway. 

That may be true but  the comparison holds true , all things being equal, except that one is bolt on and the other neck through.  I recently did that with a Ibanez Prestige.  With no prejudice, was ready to get the neck though, but when I played the slightly less expensive bolt on version,  (same wood, same shape, same pups) it  simply had more punch. 

Aesthetics are subjective. Personally, I find the Fodera shape looks a little awkward, or in the least, not "sleek."  I would also think for my money I'd get a finish on the body.   As it is, the body will start to show wear quickly, and not in the cool way like a nitro finish Precision.

As for neck-throughs -- I don't see what makes there's any more special than bolt-ons because, in general, neck-throughs sound and feel inferior.  Yes, I know, they require more work and therefore cost more and therefore should be better. But it's been my experience that neck-throughs play stiffer, have too much sustain (to the point where the notes run into each other) and lack punch.  As to why that is and to what degree can be debated, but it seems rather consistent.  

So maybe the fact that they have to pay someone to screw the necks on by hand is the reason they cost six thousand dollars more than they should. 

Quote:   If Talkbass was as relaxed as here this place probably wouldn't have existed in the first place.

There's a proper community spirit here.

Interesting perspective. 

6 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

It usually takes longer than three months for that to sink in.

Ah, going with the cryptic tactic I see.  Not interested. 

Talk Bass seems like a clique of kids and mods who want to impose their authority.  I'm not sure what that has to do with this post. 

22 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

You do know this isn’t Talkbass right?

And the difference is...? 

1 hour ago, fretmeister said:

Deleted the vid?

 

Blimey. All the comments were against the idea, not the OP!

The idea was the joke -- which apparently a lot of people didn't get. And some were insulting to the effort, so...why bother. 

18 minutes ago, Muzz said:

Awful. Thank the Lord for Cliff... 😁

LOL

26 minutes ago, discreet said:

Hats off to AC - firstly for resisting the idea that good bass lines are complex bass lines (simplest is often best) and secondly for putting up with Bonio, who must surely be right up there as one of the most hypocricital, hubristic and monumental bell-ends of the twentieth and twenty-first centuries.

 

52 minutes ago, wateroftyne said:

Quite.

27 minutes ago, discreet said:

Hats off to AC - firstly for resisting the idea that good bass lines are complex bass lines (simplest is often best) and secondly for putting up with Bonio, who must surely be right up there as one of the most hypocricital, hubristic and monumental bell-ends of the twentieth and twenty-first centuries.

 

I guess the concept "irony" isn't too big in these here parts.  :  ) 

Admittedly absurd. 

Never Mind.  LOL 

43 minutes ago, The59Sound said:

Fodera's - for people with more money than sense.

If I drive a Ferrari, does that make me Schumacher? Thought not! 

That's the equivalency, but it isn't analogous.  A Fodera really isn't that much better than any high end  ($1200 + ) bass.  It's  not a piano. 80% of the sound is the pickups and fancy wood doesn't necessarily sound or play better than ash or alder or even basswood. 

6 hours ago, gary mac said:

Well I think it's a fun idea and one we should embrace and try with some other bands/bassists.

 

You asked for it.  :  ) 

Tough crowd.

The best tone Anthony ever got was on the Al Dimaola Casino album -- which I believe was a Gibson Ripper played with a pick. 

7 hours ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

Which model was it out of interest?

The Emperor.  

6 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

While the extra business of Mr Squire isn't too distracting, this new arrangement is seriously lacking bottom end so they'd need some other instrument to fill in down there. Maybe a bass guitar? 😉

Out of interest and because I haven't listened to any Yes since 1975 which Yes song does the bassline come from for this mash up?

It's not a direct mash-up. I'm playing bass in what I thought would be Squires style. (And quoting a signiture lick here and there).  It's meant to be a parody. 

I'll add my two cents.  I used to own a Fodera.  The overall assessment is "meh."  

I think the appeal is that they're "specialty " instruments , which really means they can only make so many a month so they need to charge more to maintain business. Use fancy wood and call it "hand made "  (even though all basses are a combination of hand made and machine made) and people will think its something special.

Of course, if you like them and can afford them, then great.  It's worth it.  I just have never done a session, a gig or a recording where someone wanted a "Fodera" sound.   And I think mine was especially dull, so, I sold it. I hope the new owner is appreciating it more than I. 

Just having a little fun here. 

I like Elixers on fretless and Acoustic guitar. Other than that, I feel they lack crunch.  

Well, Jaco is Jaco, but it seems to me he's playing mostly blues, but in the upper register whereas Paul seemed more comfortable in the "bass range." And ya gotta love his attitude.  Both solos are fine.  

A good understand ing of good bass movement and voice leading in the bass register can only help in playing the bass guitar better. 

5 hours ago, Frank Blank said:

There might be huge technical ‘evidence’ as to why one ‘thing’ (wood, pedal, make, mode, bass) but in the end 8 think the majority of people make their decisions according to something far more mysterious, the vibe or the feeling they get from whatever ‘thing’ it is. There are endless threads on here (extremely helpful threads I hasten to add) on the merits of all sorts of ‘things’ that go into huge technical detail but I still remain to be convinced that the final decisions we make about what equipment we choose isn’t based, usually, upon highly subjective and nebulous criteria that it’s even difficult to name let alone define.

Exactly. 

Just having some goofy fun here.