Lo.

What a good question...I love 'em both, so I made this bass:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_iYxbkEYDg"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_iYxbkEYDg[/url]

The 51P pickup takes care of the top and bottom, while the MM lets me get real dirty.

Mine's all passive - to get the classic MM sound I would need the right (2EQ) preamp, I use my amp or outboard preamp and shelf boost the bottom and peak boost the 2.5k - it's surprisingly active-sounding.

[quote name='BurritoBass' timestamp='1372434234' post='2125755']
Breaking news (to me anyway but not seen it elsewhere or on this thread) Wilko Johnson is now able to play live again and there is another album in the making

[url="http://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/wilko-to-play-live-again/"]http://www.classicro...lay-live-again/[/url]
[/quote]

That's great - I saw them in 2011. Norman was godlike.

I bought his new album - some great lines on it. if anyone sees him tell him he should do lots more!!

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deNSpo_5H6E&lc=scvroM9-QONrXJdaEYgW0Q_oWx-3HRNqFJCscfQsmAo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deNSpo_5H6E&lc=scvroM9-QONrXJdaEYgW0Q_oWx-3HRNqFJCscfQsmAo[/url]

If you like the pure sound of the bass you just need a good quality cable, but if you want something for balanced DI'ing, EQ/limiting etc the Phil Jones bass buddy preamp is great - you can even use is as a practice amp head.

I loved my old Hartke 3500 through my SWR 1x18 (with Bag End). No tweeter.

But the Phil Jones Suitcase+4B is simply the best thing I've ever heard to reproduce your sound - your hands and instrument. Most of my youtubes are DI from a preamp but all would sound better using a mic that picks up down to 20hz on my Phil Jones 8x5 "rig".

This....

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZbRXyeRr_I"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZbRXyeRr_I[/url]

....but well worth the humbling....

Hi All

Coincidence is funny - here's one of my recent builds

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhUC-io55GM&lc=62HD4fdOZVTlfbsWSn5fbKS1rWsFIksv1thBlgZl58o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mhUC-io55GM&lc=62HD4fdOZVTlfbsWSn5fbKS1rWsFIksv1thBlgZl58o[/url]

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctkZyoOfxqk&list=UUR3jZ2eiUF4VJhJtz3eI8kQ"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctkZyoOfxqk&list=UUR3jZ2eiUF4VJhJtz3eI8kQ[/url]

It's a babe...

Love the stuff y'all have done. Long live the P.

Thanks for all the info on this thread.

I recorded with Z-Bias the other week. A thoroughly decent chap, and amazing to watch creating stuff from scratch on Cubase - I didn't realise he was one of Dubstep's inventors at the time. I used my 62 CIJ P-Bass straight in to the desk. He loved it (heh - at least he said he did) - if he releases summat I'll post a link.

I should have read this thread first - I didn't take any effects, and assumed he will do some magic with plugins afterwards. I hope he does - I'd like to hear my p-bass dubstepped-up!

Heh - thanks, but I'll go with the majority on this. It's a great bass, with or without the toys.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dRWnJIzgc4&lc=SlXxewHdwmJvwm0-qacFnmZkmaLGNWJQ0x2OJOXjmKY&feature=inbox"]Cheetah ABG[/url]

I recommendz 'em. I'd ask them for an endorsement but it would cost me more in phone calls than buying another. £50, new.


A pain in the ass to tape the neck up to finish the frets, but worth it. The preamp is (obviously) cheap, so I smooth it out with the Phil Jones Bass Buddy preamp and happy days ensue.


Hope it doesn't fall apart when I put heavier gauge flats on it - the fender tapewounds are OK but the rotosound tapewounds or normal flats would be better for me I guess.

[quote name='Captain Bassman' post='1154289' date='Mar 8 2011, 07:08 PM']Been listening to this beautiful song again after many years (guaranteed lay, every time BTW!! ) and the bass line has really caught my ear. It sounds like Chuck Rainey but since I don't have any sleeve notes I can't be sure.

Anyone in the know?

CB[/quote]

It was the utterly unfamous Ed Brown on this album. Good stuff!

ETA: Don't forget Minnie broke the rules with "Lovin You" - no bass player. Meh.

Here's a list of albums Jamerson played on during the golden era of Motown (to 73):

I'd recommend listening to them all.

1961
Hi We're The Miracles The Miracles
The Soulful Moods of Marvin Gaye Marvin Gaye
Please Mr. Postman The Marvellettes
Twistin' the World Around Twistin' Kings
Bye, Bye Baby/I Don't Want to Take a Chance Mary Wells
Cookin with The Miracles The Miracles

1962
Burnin John Lee Hooker
The Best Of John Lee Hooker John Lee Hooker
Motown Special Various
Eddie Holland Eddie Holland
Tamla Special #1 Various
The Marvelettes Smash Hits of 1962 [aka The Marveletts Sing] The Marvelettes
I'll Try Something New The Miracles
Playboy The Marvelettes
The Jazz Soul Of Little Stevie Little Stevie Wonder
The One Who Really Loves You Mary Wells
Meet The Supremes The Supremes
Do You Love Me? The Contours
Tribute To Uncle Ray Little Stevie Wonder

1963
The Big Soul Of John Lee Hooker John Lee Hooker
Workout Stevie Workout (unreleased) Stevie Wonder
The Supremes Sing Ballads & Blues (unreleased) The Supremes
Two Lovers and Other Great Hits Mary Wells
That Stubborn Kinda' Fella Marvin Gaye
The Marvelous Marvelettes The Marvelettes
Motor Town Revue, Volume 1 Various
The Fabulous Miracles The Miracles
Come and Get These Memories Martha & The Vandellas
Recorded Live On Stage Mary Wells
Heatwave Martha & The Vandellas
Doin' Mickey's Monkey The Miracles
A Package of 16 Big Hits Various
Christmas with the Miracles The Miracles

1964
Meet The Tempations The Temptations
Together Marvin Gaye & Mary Wells
Marvin Gaye's Greatest Hits Marvin Gaye
Mary Wells Sings My Guy Mary Wells
Every Little Bit Hurts Brenda Holloway
A Collection of 16 Big Hits, Volume 2 Various Motown Artists
Where Did Our Love Go? The Supremes
(Just Like) Romeo & Juliet The Reflections

1965
Four Tops The Four Tops
How Sweet It Is To Be Loved By You Marvin Gaye
The Temptations Sing Smokey The Temptations
Hits of the Sixties Choker Campbell and His Orchestra
The Marvelettes' Greatest Hits The Marvelettes
Dance Party Martha & The Vandellas
We Remember Sam Cooke The Supremes
Shot Gun Jr Walker & All Stars
That Motown Sound Earl van Dyke & The Soul Brothers
More Hits By The Supremes The Supremes
The Temptin' Temptations The Temptations
Second Album The Four Tops
The Prime of My Life Billy Eckstine
Going To A Go-Go Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Nowhere To Run Martha & The Vandellas

1966
Greatest Hits The Marvelettes
I Hear a Symphony The Supremes
The Miracles' Greatest Hits from the Beginning Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Soul Session Jr Walker & All Stars
Moods Of Marvin Gaye Marvin Gaye
Uptight Stevie Wonder
Greatest Hits Martha & The Vandellas
The Original Spinners The Spinners
Greatest Hits The Temptations
Gettin' Ready The Temptations
This Old Heart Of Mine The Isley Brothers
The Supremes A Go-Go The Supremes
On Top The Four Tops
Road Runner Jr Walker & All Stars
Take Two Marvin Gaye & Kim Weston
Darling Baby The Elgins
Down To Earth Stevie Wonder
Away We A Go-Go Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Vintage Stock Mary Wells
Here I Am Barbara McNair
Watchout! Martha & The Vandellas
I'll Pick A Rose For My Rose Marv Johnson
Get My Hands On Some Lovin' Artistics
Take Me In Your Arms (unreleased) Kim Weston
Whispers Jackie Wilson

1967
The Supremes Sing Holland-Dozier-Holland The Supremes
Jimmy Ruffin Sings Top Ten Jimmy Ruffin
The Marvellettes The Marvelettes
Reach Out The Four Tops
With A Lot O' Soul The Temptations
United Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrill
Soul Sounds Chris Clark
Hungry for Love The San Remo Golden Strings
Make It Happen Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Greatest Hits, Volume 2 Marvin Gaye
I Was Made to Love Her Stevie Wonder
Everybody Needs Love Gladys Knight & Pips
Soul On The Rocks The Isley Brothers
In a Mellow Mood The Temptations
Someday at Christmas Stevie Wonder
Higher & Higher Jackie Wilson
The Detroit Spinners The Detroit Spinners
(unreleased) The Contours Sing It's So Hard Being A Loser The Contours
Hurtin' And Cryin' (unreleased) Brenda Holloway

1968
Greatest Hits, Volume 2 Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Chuck Jackson Arrives! Chuck Jackson
Greatest Hits Stevie Wonder
Reflections The Supremes
Wish It Would Rain The Temptations
Ridin' High Martha & The Vandellas
Feelin' Bluesy Gladys Knight & Pips
Swing The San Remo Golden Strings
Your All I Need To Get By Marvin Gaye And Tammi Terrell
Here Comes The Judge Shorty Long
In The Groove Marvin Gaye
Sophisticated Soul The Marvelettes
Yesterdays Dreams The Four Tops
Soul Master Edwin Starr
Special Occasion Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
In Loving Memory Various artists
Diana Ross/Supremes Join The Tempations DR & S / Temptations
Eivets Rednow...Alfie Stevie Wonder
Love Child Diana Ross & Supremes
Greetings! We're The Monitors The Monitors
For Once in My Life Stevie Wonder
Silk N' Soul Gladys Knight & Pips
Soul Goes On Jerry Butler
I Get the Sweetest Feeling Jackie Wilson
The Articulate Artistics Artistics

1969
Home Cookin' Jr Walker & All Stars
Irresistible Tammi Terrell
Cloud Nine The Temptations
Ruff 'N Ready Jimmy Ruffin
Along Came Jonah Jonah Jones
The Best of the Fantastic Four The Fantastic Four
25 Miles Edwin Starr
Doin' Their Thing The Isley Brothers
M.P.G. Marvin Gaye
The Real Barbara McNair Barbara McNair
My Whole World Ended David Ruffin
Let The Sunshine In Diana Ross & The Supremes
Marvin Gaye & His Girls Marvin Gaye
Going Back To Chuck Jackson Chuck Jackson
Four Tops Now! The Four Tops
Taylor Made Soul Johnny Taylor
Time Out Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Green Grow The Lilacs The Originals
Puzzle People The Temptations
Easy Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
My Cherie Amour Stevie Wonder
Nitty Gritty Gladys Knight & Pips
Sugar N' Spice Martha & The Vandellas
Just We Two Edwin Starr & Blinky
In Full Bloom The Marvelettes
That's The Way Love Is Marvin Gaye
Together The Supremes & The Temptations
The Prime of Shorty Long Shorty Long
Feelin' Good David Ruffin
Gotta Hold on to This Feeling Jr Walker & All Stars
Four In Blue Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Soul Spin The Four Tops
Cream of the Crop Diana Ross & The Supremes
Switched On Blues Various
Diana Ross Presents The Jackson 5 Jackson 5
Movin' On Joe Harnell
C. C. Rides Again Chris Clark
I Heard That! Quincy Jones
Behind the Painted Smile The Isley Brothers
What Happened? Artistics
Rita Wright (unreleased) Rita Wright
Coming Again So Soon Beverly Glenn

1970
Still Waters Run Deep The Four Tops
Gladys Knight & the Pips' Greatest Hits Gladys Knight & Pips
Psychedelic Shack The Temptations
A Little Dis, A Little Dat Jonah Jones
Right On The Supremes
What Love Has….Joined Together Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
Greatest Hits Marvin Gaye & Tammi Terrell
Diana Ross Diana Ross
Portrait of the Originals The Originals
Great Expectations Kiki Dee
War & Peace Edwin Starr
Signed, Sealed & Delivered Stevie Wonder
Changing Times The Four Tops
Third Album Jackson 5
The Magnificent Seven The Supremes and The Four Tops
Natural Resources Martha Reeves & The Vandellas
Everything is Everything Diana Ross
A Gassssssssss Jr. Walker & The All-Stars
Teardrops Keep Falling on My Heart Chuck Jackson
Super Hits Marvin Gaye
A Pocket Full of Miracles Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
The Earl of Funk Earl Van Dyke
The Return of the Marvelettes The Marvelettes
Second Time Round The Spinners
New Ways But Love Stays The Supremes
Strung Out Gordon Staples and the String Thing
I Am My Brother's Keeper Jimmy & David Ruffin
Naturally Together The Originals
Stop The World … We Wanna Get On Hearts Of Stone
Christmas Card The Temptations
Groove Governor Jimmy Ruffin
Forever Jimmy Ruffin
ABC Jackson 5
Express Yourself Charles Wright & the Watts 103rd Street Rhythm Band
Indiana Wants Me R. Dean Taylor

1971
Where I'm Coming From Stevie Wonder
Sky's the Limit The Temptations
All By Myself Eddie Kendricks
Exposed Valerie Simpson
What's Going On Marvin Gaye
Touch The Supremes
The Return of the Magnificent Seven The Supremes and The Four Tops
If I Were You're Woman Gladys Knight & Pips
Involved Edwin Starr
The Undisputed Truth The Undisputed Truth
Rainbow Funk Jr. Walker & The All-Stars
One Dozen Roses Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
Greatest Hits, Volume 2 Stevie Wonder
Dynamite Supremes & Four Tops
Moody Jr. Jr. Walker & The All-Stars
Standing Ovation Gladys Knight & Pips
Rock Gospel, The Key To The Kingdom Various
Heart of the Matter King Floyd

1972
Nature Planned It The Four Tops
Face To Face With The Truth Undisputed Truth
All Directions The Temptations
Together: The Eastbound Jazz Years Various Artists
Floy Joy The Supremes
Def-I-Ni-Tions The Originals
Black Magic Martha Reeves & The Vandellas
Tamla Motown Presents The Isley Brothers
Thelma Houston Thelma Houston
D&B Together Delaney & Bonnie and Friends
Beautiful Day Jackie Wilson
Spice of Life Jerry Butler
Flying High Together Smokey Robinson & the Miracles
Trouble Man Marvin Gaye
Solid Rock The Temptations
Jesus Christ Greatest Hits The God Squad

1973
Last Time I Saw Him Diana Ross
All I Need Is Time Gladys Knight & The Pips
You've Got It Bad, Girl Quincy Jones
Let's Get It On Marvin Gaye
Eddie Kendricks Eddie Kendricks
Neither One Of Us Gladys Knight & Pips
The Power Of Love Jerry Butler
Renaissance The Miracles
Diana and Marvin Diana Ross and Marvin Gaye
1990 The Temptations
The Real Thing Houston Person
Boogie Down Eddie Kendricks
Look Out Artistics
The Best of The Spinners The Spinners
David Ruffin David Ruffin

I have a 2d version - where do I send it for you? It fails as an attachment here... (sorry for ignorance - if there's a way to drop it on here please let me know)

[quote name='gajdosmirci' post='1112370' date='Feb 2 2011, 01:36 PM']Nathan Watts and Verdine White.....should i tell you more about these fantastic bass players????[/quote]

Two of my favourites, for sure.

Don't forget that James Jamerson was the player on the original versions of I Was Made To Love Her and For Once in My Life - he was quite handy, too.

Michael Henderson and Scott Edwards both had short spells in Stevie's band as well, but Nathan bass-god Watts has been the man for over 30 years now.

You two are blessed with the 51 voodoo - please share with us!

[quote name='leroybasslines' post='1114088' date='Feb 3 2011, 04:25 PM']OK...this is where I admit to the true extent of my geekery on Pino.

If you're a spotify user, get involved with my Pino playlist: [url="http://open.spotify.com/user/owen_liam/playlist/4J0KMwu3HUz9u2joumbZ2Z"]http://open.spotify.com/user/owen_liam/pla...3HUz9u2joumbZ2Z[/url]

Feel free to add or contest as you see fit!

As far as I'm aware, Pino played on everyone of these tracks, from Sugababes to Manu Katche, Gary Numan to Daniel Bedingfield!

My fave at the moment though are his contributions to Roy Hargrove's Hard Groove. Awesome playing![/quote]

Great playlist. Thanks!

[quote name='Pete Academy' post='1114391' date='Feb 3 2011, 07:44 PM']My favourite band. Unequalled.[/quote]

Very difficult to argue with. Have you had this one on the thread yet?

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9z3vqPVz04"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9z3vqPVz04[/url]

Verdine's solo (a bit of it anyway):

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWV0_r6K_hc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWV0_r6K_hc[/url]

And....nuff said:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttWmskh9w_o"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttWmskh9w_o[/url]

Leo Fender gave us the wonderful p-bass, we all know that, but look who was born that year:

2/2 Alphonso Johnson
15/2 Norman Watt-Roy
7/3 Francis Rocco Prestia
30/6 Stanley Clarke
7/7 Michael Henderson
26/10 Bootsy Collins
1/12 Jaco Pastorius

I ain't superstitious, but that's a hell of a year!

There may be more - I only did a quick search.

Great thread. Gonna slow it right down for a minute....

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU-dhBYoS_g"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU-dhBYoS_g[/url]

You have a bold spirit, sir.

3 humble suggestions from me:


The Gap Band
The Meters
Lots more Earth Wind & Fire

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1113242' date='Feb 2 2011, 11:29 PM']I was expecting this
[/quote]


Nice one, I'd hit it, but I'd rather have Jim's.

Thanks for the great photos Jim. Can't wait to hear it recorded, maybe later this year?

Who's Michael Henderson? A quick primer for you lucky people who haven't discovered him yet:

In the 60's he started recording for Motown when he was 13. He became a Motown road bassist while James Jamerson was locked away in the studio - at 16/17 he was one of the only ones good enough to learn some of the incredible lines Jamerson was creating. The kind of kids that came to see him play Motown shows at that time were Jaco Pastorius, Stanley Clarke, Miroslav Vitous....he later joined Stevie Wonder's band and toured with him (he was a ripe old age of 19 then), until Betty Davis saw them in NY and told Miles Davis he should go see Michael play. Miles took one look at him and told Stevie Wonder after the show "I'm taking your F***in' bass player". He then became the longest ever serving bassman for Miles Davis (and Stevie spent the next few years playing his own keyboard bass). That's the early years anyway.

Two Michael Henderson masterpieces posted - (Johnnie Taylor & Miles Davis). Good to hear that Jaco track again....pity we can't put a comment on there to name the players.

Nice one! 3 of Jamerson's lesser known gems added.

I thought I'd post a quick note to say I was lucky enough to meet Michael Henderson in Blackpool at the weekend, and got to play a little on a bass made for him by Jim Fleetwood. It's a beautiful instrument he's called The Starship bass.

I think it's wonderful that Jim paid this tribute to MH - he's simply one of the most important bassists ever and it's about time he had a signature bass. Most of his recorded work was with a Jazz bass, but the Starship has a J/M pickup set up. I'll try to get a few pictures and post eventually, but heads up, the Starship is landing in 2011.

A few comments:

The finish is satin to look at but it's only a sealer coat as far as I can tell - easy to overspray though. This neck is for a 51 type bass I'm building so I'll be ambering it up. (is that a real word?)

The neck was just stuck in there with a small shim at the end - took me 10 minutes including getting in tune. I didn't do it but the neck pocket of the squier body needs a little bit extra depth and contouring to the right shape of whatever neck your using - this neck's end shoulders are a tighter radius than the body so theres a small gap - the bridge saddles on this are raised to compensate for the shallower neck pocket.

Nut width? Nah - I have big hands and don't even think about it. I love 'em all.

The tuners are Allparts fender vintage repro's - really nice but a pain in the ass to fit as the headstock has to be routed (not neatly, so easy to do!) to accept the protruding steel "strap ends" for the tuner to sit flush with the back of the neck.

Here's a quick disco-stu number on it:

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYk5ZLvZdfo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYk5ZLvZdfo[/url]

Cheers