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2 hours ago, lowdown said:

Agreed. That's why I enquired earlier as to why it was the worst song. The actual tune is not a stinker, lyrically maybe not a gem, but hook wise it does the job.

 There are a couple of decent covers knocking around as well (IMO of course).

If not the worst, then it's at least his weakest song that has got the most acclaim.  However, it doesn't bother me at all if people like any song by a Beatle more than I do since I've been a Beatles fan for a long time.  If you tried to pick out the worst song any of them did after the band broke up, though, that would be difficult.  Because there have been many lackluster songs to choose from.  But as a band I think they were great.  

1 hour ago, visog said:

What's the correct interpretation?

That she was not speaking with a New York accent.  She was speaking English with a slight Sabra accent.  Something which, by the way, isn't necessarily a bad thing.  I think it sounds cool--somewhat similar, for instance, to what some people sound like when they speak English with a French accent.  You seem to try to be making it look like I'm saying something negative by my statements when I'm not.  For the record, I've just begun trying to learn Hebrew and the last thing I would ever do is say anything negative about anyone who speaks English with the native Hebrew (Sabra) accent.  I have something to learn from them-.  They have nothing to learn from me.  So,, please, whatever negative interpretation you seem to have received from my posts, I'd appreciate it if you would let it go.  To me it feels like you are ringing fire bell alarms when there is no fire.  I'm going to have to chalk this up to an honest misunderstanding.  However, I sincerely hope this is the last time I'm going to have to try to explain myself to you.  

10 hours ago, Rich said:

"Nicks was angry that Buckingham smirked while she delivered a speech...".  Children. They are like bloody children. 

Although TBH I wouldn't mind if they never played another smegging note. I've always detested their music. My idea of hell is being stuck on a desert island where the only available music is Fleetwood Mac and the Stones.

Maybe so.  But for me it would be having to listen to the Dave Matthews Band.  

54 minutes ago, skankdelvar said:

How very true. When he released the execrable Double Fantasy the critics were queuing up to lambast him; the negative reviews were all set to drop when Lennon died whereupon some publishers (inc the NYT, Rolling Stone) either held them back or spiked them out of 'respect'. 

Of Lennon's 11 solo albums perhaps only two are any good, one being the Imagine album and the other being Rock 'n' Roll which was all covers and a sort-of contractual obligation album. The rest are either un-listenable or drab. 

Whether it was the worst or not, it did seem to get an unusual amount of unmerited attention.  Not only are the lyrics ludicrous utopian nonsense but the melody is unusually boring for a John Lennon song.  All the Beatles had trouble being ex-Beatles, though.  However, George Harrison noted that he would rather be an ex-Beatle than an ex-Nazi.  

2 hours ago, Wylie said:

I thought I was alone in thinking "Imagine" wasn't Lennon's "top of the pops" tune.

I have encountered a few people through the years who felt the same way.  

44 minutes ago, skankdelvar said:

 Thanks for the link. A very interesting piece.

You're welcome.  😊

That's a very good interview.  Amusing, too.  

I ran across this article several months ago.  It only has one paragraph about "Imagine," but the whole article is informative.  I may only disagree with the statement which is made about Mark Chapman being forgotten now.  I think he will always be remembered in George Harrison''s "All Those Years Ago" when he is referred to as "the devil's best friend."

What I especially agree with in the article, though, is Yoko Ono's assertion that "Imagine" shouldn't be considered an anthem (if I'm interpreting that correctly.)  I definitely agree with John Lennon when he said about "Imagine" that "It was only a bloody song."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/the-beatles/8179356/I-remember-the-real-John-Lennon-not-the-one-airbrushed-by-history.html

1 minute ago, visog said:

Your post suggested she was being disingenuous describing herself a 'New York bassist'.

That is your interpretation of my post--which is totally inaccurate by the way.  i was suggesting no such thing.  

1 hour ago, visog said:

So living and working in New York, she's supposed to say she's a Tel Aviv based bass player? Right ok - so you can only work where you're from originally?

I never said that people should only work where they are from originally.  I am puzzled why you would think I'm saying that.  

1 hour ago, lowdown said:

In my opinion that OP video is just drivel.

Why is 'Imagine' the worst song Lennon ever wrote? Just curious really. 

I think it's a decent tune, although I prefer performances by a couple of others who have recorded it. 

What bothers me about the song is that it's supposedly some kind of anthem which some people look at something it isn't.  Its importance is blown up all out of proportion, IMO.  Other ex-Beatles had some bad songs, too, of course, but for the most part they weren't hits.  Hardly anybody knows about them.  But everybody has heard of "Imagine."  George Harrison, for instance, had a song called "Save the World" which in a sense has some of the same themes as "Imagine."  It's probably even worse than "Imagine," but almost no one has heard of it (fortunately.)

"Imagine" may be the worst song John Lennon ever wrote.  Yet here we are still talking about it.  It takes attention away from all the other great songs he wrote.  That includes just about any John Lennon song that isn't "Imagine."  The other John Lennon song I can't stand is "You Know My Name (Look Up the Number."  It's probably even worse than "Imagine" if that is even possible.  I'm somewhat of a Beatles fan, but that doesn't mean I'm delusional.  Yes, Paul, George and Ringo also had some awful songs, especially in their solo careers.  I mostly try to focus on the ones I like, though.  

Sometimes that can be a good thing, sometimes not.  I'm not really much of a Fender fan, although Fender has proved itself time and again.  Needless to say, that isn't something that can be said for Moniker now as it turns out.  

12 minutes ago, fleabag said:

Yep, that would explain it.

It's too bad, too.  Those seemed to be nice basses.  

4 hours ago, fleabag said:

Moniker bass, but their website seems to be utter shyte

Based on what I've been able to gather from sketchy info, it appears that Moniker itself must have gone out of business several months ago.  

9 minutes ago, Hellzero said:

She clearly says that it's intended for intermediate players... 

It has been months since I first saw the video.  I can't remember everything on it.  All I can say is that as someone probably a little closer to intermediate than advanced, whatever she was saying wasn't for me.  I got nothing out of it.  

I could tell from her accent she wasn't actually from New York or even anywhere else in the U.S., either.  I looked her up and she is originally from Tel Aviv.  It appears she lived in Los Angeles a while before moving to NYC.  I agree with the analysis that her videos must be for beginners.  I happened to encounter her a few months ago on You Tube and was immediately puzzled by what she was saying.  

"White Room" by Cream.  

On 30/08/2018 at 07:18, drTStingray said:

The P bass can be very muddy live dependent on how it's played and also EQd - in the case of the first point, from my observation and experience over the last 50 odd years, those who do sound good on them, even exceptional, whack the strings pretty hard - that has also been my experience - in the exceptional cases I'm thinking of the players were exceptional also. 

The second point regarding EQ is also important - and too important to be left to sound engineers who won't necessarily know the intricacies and vagaries of individual bass guitars, let alone their players, and should be given the bassist's bass sound to amplify/enhance rather than a pre EQd/pre modified sound - as described by Guy Pratt, whose entirely delay reliant part of a song was bypassed by the sound engineers, diverting his out of the bass sound to house DI prior to effects/EQ, thus screwing up part of his performance  - in fact I'm concluding that this is a major contributor to inaudible bass guitar in some music these days. 

For those who think BGM etc are a waste of space, they've missed two of the most seminal bassists of now talking about these issues - and an interview by Silvia as well!!

I don't buy the 67 years bit either - there was only a very gradual take up for the first ten, the 60s certainly wasn't an era where the P was ubiquitous, certainly in UK pop maybe it was in the US, the early 70s was surely shared with the J and Ric, whilst many of the best players moved to Wal or Musicman at the end of the era. 80s was shared with synth bass, 90s with 5 strings - and then it becomes v popular again.

When I first started taking notice of these things (the later 60s), there were one or two high profile top rate players on P bass but more importantly the whole concept of bass guitar was still on an uphill struggle beyond pop/rock music to be accepted even as a serious instrument - against double bass!! 

Rather like Jools, those who chuck the BGM, BG baby out with the bath water miss some great moments - in fact the whole concept of a magazine is surely to create passing interest with one or two nuggets otherwise there wouldn't be such a plethora of them - from women's magazines to Ideal Home to OK - they appeal to broad taste in their subject area rather than individual's focus - even something as focussed as prog magazine is guaranteed a decent percentage of stuff which will only appeal to a percentage of readers. It's the nature of the beast!!

Although it was very much making its presence known, the P bass wasn't ubiquitous in the U.S. during the 60s, either.  

^^^

I like my Contemporary more, too.  But I think Ignitions are good, too, especially at that low price.  I also might be interested in an Epiphone Viola some day.  

I would love to watch that if I could get that channel. Jack Bruce was one of a kind.  My favorite bassist, actually.  

I have both the Hofner Ignition and Contemporary violin basses.  I like them both.  As for a review of the Ignition, I think this guy's review is about as thorough as it gets.  I discovered this when I was getting interested in the Ignition bass.

On 07/09/2018 at 14:34, alexa3020 said:

I see someone mention jimi Hendrix bass players Noel redding and billy cox.

my favourite bass playing on any Hendrix track is have you ever been to electric lady land. I love the playing on that track and I think that was Hendrix playing bass

Jack Casady played on "Voodoo Chile."  Noel Redding played on five tracks.  Jimi Hendrix played on all the rest of the album, including "Have You Ever Been to Electric Ladyland."  My favorite Hendrix bass-playing track, though, is probably "All Along the Watchtower."  

The SG basses are called SG Standard basses at this point.  I wouldn't mind having one since I like short scales and the sound of Gibson basses.  But they're overpriced for me and although it may seem like a minor point, I really dislike trapezoid inlays.  

49 minutes ago, josie said:

I understand why people love them. My son, when I offered him up to $750 towards any bass in Nashville, went halves on a new MIA Fender P, and I appreciate that it's right for the music he plays. But not for me.

My first bass, a GMR5, has what I now realise is exceptional sustain, so that's how I learned to play and how I naturally develop all my basslines. I can play staccato when it works in the band, or I can let a note ring clearly for a whole bar. But I find even on a really good P that the notes just die too soon. It's frustrating. Imho, ymmv 🙂 

If it's history you want, my 1966 EB2 has decent sustain too 🙂 

I'd love to have an EB-2 some day.  

2 hours ago, Newfoundfreedom said:

I think I'd pay to have someone take it away. 😂

I know they don't get a lot of love, but some people do like them.  In Rinus's case, the one that got stolen was probably one of his custom-made basses which had a Fender and Danelectro neck.  I'm not sure, though.  However, on the Golden Earring albums the best sound he got was with a Yamaha BB-3000 in the late 1990s/early 2000s.  Strictly, of course, IMO.