cris the man Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Zita says hi ive been recommended to get a little big muff pedal but im not sure if electro harmonix are any good. My friend you see has a holy grail reverb pedal and i didn't think it was any good :S are electro harmonix any good? w/b cheers x from zita you lucky devil :S lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Fly Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 [quote name='cris the man' post='103718' date='Dec 13 2007, 09:28 AM'](...) are electro harmonix any good? (...)[/quote] It depends what you mean by "good" - can you be a little bit more specific? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris the man Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 [quote name='Silent Fly' post='103749' date='Dec 13 2007, 10:36 AM']It depends what you mean by "good" - can you be a little bit more specific?[/quote] ah yeah , sorry lol is the little big muff pedal ok its a distortion/fuzz pedal the probs i get with distortion is that the fuzz takes all the bass away does this pedal keep the sound bassy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 get a danelectro french toast IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris the man Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 [quote name='cheddatom' post='103753' date='Dec 13 2007, 10:40 AM']get a danelectro french toast IMO[/quote] what effect is that? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 it's a similar distortion sound, deffinitely no loss of low end, with an octave up option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris the man Posted December 13, 2007 Author Share Posted December 13, 2007 [quote name='cheddatom' post='103758' date='Dec 13 2007, 10:48 AM']it's a similar distortion sound, deffinitely no loss of low end, with an octave up option.[/quote] oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo nice! thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudewheresmybass Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 the LBM has a better low end than most of the other muffs. another option if you want a muff sound is to try the Metal muff (with top boost - rather than any of the smaller ones!) as it has an eq section on it. from other forums, i see that the english muffn is a opopular choice among bass players as it uses valves for the distortion. for another option, contact our very own Dave Hall (DHA) who makes his own popular line of valve-based effects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_the_bass Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 i've got an LBM - is very good. Preferable to my ears on the bass than it is on my guitar, probably because of the low end. it will be a permanent addition on my post christmas board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Just a thought, but if you're using the Dean with a fuzz you're not going to get good results. Active electronics and fuzz don't mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_the_bass Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 [quote name='Musky' post='103772' date='Dec 13 2007, 11:17 AM']Just a thought, but if you're using the Dean with a fuzz you're not going to get good results. Active electronics and fuzz don't mix.[/quote] works grand with my stingray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 [quote name='john_the_bass' post='103774' date='Dec 13 2007, 11:24 AM']works grand with my stingray[/quote] Yeah, I think it's a case of what kind of sound you're looking for. There's a sticky about an impedance buffer Tayste is having made to overcome the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 [quote name='Musky' post='103772' date='Dec 13 2007, 11:17 AM']Just a thought, but if you're using the Dean with a fuzz you're not going to get good results. Active electronics and fuzz don't mix.[/quote] That's not necessarily the case - It depends on the pedal and the bass and what sound you like/want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_the_bass Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 [quote name='Musky' post='103776' date='Dec 13 2007, 11:30 AM']Yeah, I think it's a case of what kind of sound you're looking for. There's a sticky about an impedance buffer Tayste is having made to overcome the problem.[/quote] i was under the impression it also depended on whether you were using a fuzz with a silicon or germanium circuit. One works alright and apparently another one doesn't This thing about high/low impedance and fuzz pedals. If you run a fuzz after a buffered pedal, are you not getting a low impedance signal anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 [quote name='john_the_bass' post='103789' date='Dec 13 2007, 11:46 AM']i was under the impression it also depended on whether you were using a fuzz with a silicon or germanium circuit. One works alright and apparently another one doesn't This thing about high/low impedance and fuzz pedals. If you run a fuzz after a buffered pedal, are you not getting a low impedance signal anyway?[/quote] I don't really know - the first I knew about this whole issue was Tayste's posts. But the way he explains it, fuzz pedals need a [i]high[/i] impedance signal to work at their best, regardless of type. Just like an active circuit, other pedals put out a low impedance signal - hence the reason he's getting some buffers made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 [quote name='cheddatom' post='103780' date='Dec 13 2007, 11:33 AM']That's not necessarily the case - It depends on the pedal and the bass and what sound you like/want.[/quote] totally in agreement - i use both active and passive basses and use overdrives all the time. i don't think you can say that active basses don't work well with overdrives...i get good sounds with both. ymmv of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Fly Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I looked at the diagrams of some circuits and I don't think silicon vs germanium is really the issue. Some circuits (as far as I know Zvex WM is one of them) use a passive filter at the beginning of the circuit. This filter changes the current that flows in the pickup with the frequency. As a result, with high impedance pickups (usualy passive), when the frequency changes, the current changes, the voltage drops in the internal resistance of the pickup and output of the pickup changes. In other terms, with some pedals, active pickups keep the output constant, passive pickups change their output with the frequency. I have never tried but in theory, this should be easy to resolve. There are at least two ways to do it (again, in theory): 1. With a resistor in series to the circuit. It will not trasform an active pickup in a passive pickup because passive pickups have also a inductance component but it should do the trick. 2. A simple resistor unfortunately have two disadvantages. Different active pickups can have different impedances so it may be necessary change resistence value for every bass. The second problem is that if you use a passive bass in the same circuit, the resistor need to be removed. To avoid this, it is possibile build a buffer and place the resistor after be buffer. In this way, the pedal will always see the same impedance regardless of the bass/pickup. The same can be achieved placing the resistor after another (non true-bypass) pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 [quote name='ahpook' post='104784' date='Dec 15 2007, 10:06 PM']totally in agreement - i use both active and passive basses and use overdrives all the time. i don't think you can say that active basses don't work well with overdrives...i get good sounds with both. ymmv of course[/quote] I think this issue is specific to fuzz pedals rather than overdrives or distortions. Though like cheddatom says, you might like the sound - in his post tayste described it as kind of synthy or gated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 big muffs all models work equally well with passive or active basses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahpook Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 [quote name='BassManKev' post='104943' date='Dec 16 2007, 03:30 PM']big muffs all models work equally well with passive or active basses[/quote] my lbm certainly does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris the man Posted December 18, 2007 Author Share Posted December 18, 2007 [quote name='ahpook' post='104963' date='Dec 16 2007, 04:48 PM']my lbm certainly does [/quote] thank goodness thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twentyhertz Posted January 9, 2008 Share Posted January 9, 2008 I use a Little Big Muff, and I love it. I did use a Russian Muff for a long time before it, but the LBM has now almost totally replaced it. My particular Russian Muff is very bottom-heavy, and certainly a lot thicker sounding than the LBM, but the LBM wins out purely on grounds of practicality due to the side-mount jacks and proper boss-type power supply input. I just got a USA Small Stone at Christmas as well though, so I'll be intrigued to see how it works out for me in terms of reliability etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kev Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 im still to try a lbm, i might give one a go......so what if i already have 6 distortions! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EskimoBassist Posted January 12, 2008 Share Posted January 12, 2008 I use two fuzzes, a USA Big Muff Pi and one on my Korg AX3000B, both of which i actually really like and neither of which lose any lowend. The sustain does get a tad stupid on the USABM but even so i have a rather nice tone using an Epiphone Thunderbird (like yours ) and a USA Fender Jazz, both passive ofcourse. However i am bidding on a russian muff atm, considering the aclaim which it has amoungst bass players (check pedal boards on this site!). I would love an MXR Blowtorch though and/or a Depth Charge. Can't go wrong with a nice big Muff though, can you?! Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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