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A Woollies special, starting at a whopping £485! Think I'll pass http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Arbiter-SG-bass-guitar-sixties-made-in-Japan-/302222042160?hash=item465dd66430:g:MDUAAOSw2gxYn4vj

This is more like it - never seen one like this before, anyone know what it is? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1973-Japanese-Made-Bass-Guitar-/192126398553?hash=item2cbba03059:g:u5UAAOSwTA9X3WL9

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I was about to say Ms Priscilla Snake is insane but viewing her other items, Wilson bass £650 :o , I better up my insurance pronto :lol:

Perhaps I should offer her my services to aid buying this "Weltron" ?

https://www.gumtree.com/p/guitar-instrument/vintage-1960-s-weltron-bass-/1223072656

Given her asking prices, a fee of £250 would suffice.

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That's some mental money for the "Arbiter". These are pretty common & often go for sub £100. What's mildly amusing is that it's a copy of Gibson's budget Kalamazoo KB bass, which would probably sell for a fair bit less than £485.

The Ideal-branded thing appears to be a 2-pickup version of a [url="http://markcolemusic.com/teisco/Images/literature/ad1-64_66.jpg"]mid-60s Teisco EB-18[/url]. That's got to be about 3 times what it's worth, in a sane world anyway.

Never heard of a "Weltron" but Ebay's full of people making up crap. These are common early 70s starter basses, and oddly the exact same design was manufactured in Korea some years later.

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[quote name='pete.young' timestamp='1501862509' post='3347894']
A 'Luxor' jazz copy, looks very Matsumoku . Slightly optimistic BIN I feel.

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1972-Luxor-Jazz-Bass-Lawsuit-MIJ-Matsumoku-/322595387244?hash=item4b1c2ef76c:g:s-sAAOSwxxdZa2cV"]http://www.ebay.co.u...-sAAOSwxxdZa2cV[/url]
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Quite nice, 100% a Mat build. Not 1972, looks like '75 or later to me - most 70s Mat serials were random numbers.

Bit dear considering it's pretty beat-up and has non-original parts. I think Luxor's a German importer brand, so it's travelled a bit.

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Starforce bass £50 bin - cheap, no? Pickup only and 'a little buzzy' but I seem to remember reading on here they are half decent?

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Starforce-7008-Bass-Guitar-/263174708541?hash=item3d466f5d3d:g:I8IAAOSwjuBZpXru"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Starforce-7008-Bass-Guitar-/263174708541?hash=item3d466f5d3d:g:I8IAAOSwjuBZpXru[/url]

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Cheapo Korean, but I'd probably dump £50 on that for the star inlays, if it was near me!

Always thought "Starforce" gets confused with "Starfield" - which was made by Fujigen for Hoshino. Starfield apparently being pretty much a translation of Hoshino.

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Now here's an interesting one - 1986 Ibanez Proline PL5050:

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ibanez-PL5050-Bass-Guitar-86-Jap-FujiGen-Made/122661478487"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ibanez-PL5050-Bass-Guitar-86-Jap-FujiGen-Made/122661478487[/url]

Essentially the debut of what would go on to be the SoundGear series. Very reasonable price for such a rarity, and in great condition by the looks. Shame (or lucky escape?) he won't post.

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Washburn - Force 8 or Force B? - I think these are quite nice. £129.99 start, collect only from Slough.
[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Washburn-Bass-Guitar-Made-in-Japan-/132317078999?hash=item1eceb665d7:g:z6EAAOSwZcZZrFzq"]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Washburn-Bass-Guitar-Made-in-Japan-/132317078999?hash=item1eceb665d7:g:z6EAAOSwZcZZrFzq [/url]

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You have to wonder who will pay decent money for one of those old lumps of plywood toot; they were utter crap when they were new and they're not going to have improved with age.

Couldn't agree more, with the exception of the Vantage (which is both well-made and rare in the UK) this is a sh!tshow of horrible, borderline-unplayable throwaway trash.

The Grant J-type thing is the exact bass I started with - if I hadn't got something slightly better after a couple of months, there's no way I would have carried on playing.

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His descriptions are very well thought through mind.

His  verdict on the Satellite bass: "1970's Vintage Short Scale Satellite Bass, Well preserved & Fully Functional.."

To which I could only add ".....and still sh*t."

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I think it's basically one of these but with a few detail/hardware differences:

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Cimar was Ibanez' parent company's budget brand & shared some crossover in styling. I think most of them came from a different factory, who presumably sold slightly differently specced versions under the Seiwa brand. I've encountered Seiwa before but never seen one of these. Interesting. :)

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