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Hi,

did anyone buy one of these from sound control at the huge reduction in price? How are people getting on with them? How do they sound? How do they compare to other similar spec heads?

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Yes I did and am very pleased with it too. After reading the manual (ahem!) dialled in a nice sound last night, even got positive comments from our vocalist/rhythym guitarist.

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At the mo am going through a MAG 410. Volume was loud enough at a loud reheasal and we have good foh at gigs. I am however in the process of building a couple of BFD omni 10.5's which will give me two 8 ohm 1x10 250W cabs

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[quote name='Funkydunc' post='5177' date='May 23 2007, 04:16 PM']At the mo am going through a MAG 410. Volume was loud enough at a loud reheasal and we have good foh at gigs. I am however in the process of building a couple of BFD omni 10.5's which will give me two 8 ohm 1x10 250W cabs

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Dont you mean 4 ohm? You will need 4ohm load each channel to get full capability IIRC.

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Are these like a hifi amp?

If they're quoted as 2x250 into 4 ohms, they'll be 2x125 (ish) into an 8 ohm speaker?

Is the 2 x 250 so it can be connected into 2 cabs? If yes, can it be bridged for single cab use?

Or are most bass speakers 4ohm and I'm talking crap?

Edited by mhuk

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[quote name='neilb' post='5411' date='May 23 2007, 11:23 PM']Yes, each "amp" needs a 4 ohm load to work at full power.
Cant be bridged.[/quote]

Yeah and I think that's the reason why no-one bought them! You need two cabinets to squeeze what isn't even that great an output, which then raises the issue of 'what's the point in having a lightweight head if you need to lug around two cabinets to get a reasonable volume out of it?'

I think there's a 1000 watt version of it now though?

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[quote name='neilb' post='5255' date='May 23 2007, 06:29 PM']Dont you mean 4 ohm? You will need 4ohm load each channel to get full capability IIRC.[/quote]
No and yes !! :) The cabs will be 8 ohms (not sure that suitable 10" drivers are available as 4 ohm) so yes full power isnt available. It will be more like a total of 300W. This should be loud enough though the BFD cabs are typically 3db more sensitive anyway!

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[quote name='Waldo' post='5441' date='May 23 2007, 10:58 PM']'what's the point in having a lightweight head if you need to lug around two cabinets to get a reasonable volume out of it?'[/quote]

No lugging 'round these parts!! :)



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hmmm yeah must admit that i keep being tempted by these - theres a couple of places selling em on the bay for £269 which is a pretty good price, but yeah the 250 watts/4ohms a side thing puts me off as i've only got 2x 8ohm cabs....(well..and a single 4 ohm too). the 1000 watt one would be more tempting but not seen them at el cheapo price anywhere ..as yet

peace

c

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[quote name='deksawyer' post='5831' date='May 24 2007, 03:46 PM']No lugging 'round these parts!! :)



D.[/quote]

Aye, fair point! That is a very cool rig, I have to say.

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MB1. :)

Ashdown have discontinued the superfly 500 and sound control have bought all there stock.this is why they can offer them at £199.as far as ive been able to find out ashdown will be doing a 1000 superfly and this will be taking the place of the old one.you wont be seeing the new 1000 for £199 though.

MB1.

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so can you run one cab from one output and leave the other channel unconnected?

and can you mix two different rated cabs, i.e. 4ohm one channel and 8ohm the other

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[quote name='Funkydunc' post='5446' date='May 23 2007, 11:00 PM']No and yes !! :) The cabs will be 8 ohms (not sure that suitable 10" drivers are available as 4 ohm) so yes full power isnt available. It will be more like a total of 300W. This should be loud enough though the BFD cabs are typically 3db more sensitive anyway!

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If the drivers are 8ohm, could you wire two in parallel (or is it series?) to give a 4ohm load? and use the superfly to drive two omni10's?

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[quote name='BB2000' post='7274' date='May 26 2007, 07:29 PM']10.5's only have one speaker ..[/quote]

yeah, but the 10's have two, the 10.5 is a 10 (almost) cut in half

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Sorry, I thought you were talking about Funkydunc's cabs. Yes, most people go for 4ohm omni 10's, so a pair would receive the full 500W.

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I picked up one of these at Soundcontrol during lunchbreak for £199. Almost bought more to flog on ebay following the Crate Powerblock earner!

Hamster

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[quote name='Hamster' post='10559' date='Jun 1 2007, 02:18 PM']I picked up one of these at Soundcontrol during lunchbreak for £199. Almost bought more to flog on ebay following the Crate Powerblock earner!

Hamster[/quote]

You'll be pretty sorted for a lightweight rig with that head and the Secos.

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[quote name='bassbloke' post='10561' date='Jun 1 2007, 01:20 PM']You'll be pretty sorted for a lightweight rig with that head and the Secos.[/quote]

I've just spent a month experimenting with different combinations of cabinet lining in the Secos. After several bad sounding combinations, they now both sound better than ever, especially the 1x15 - much more low-end punch. I'm going to experiment with the Ashdown and it's programming, although I'm pretty happy with the Eden WT550.

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