adz Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) I'm just seeing if anyone out there has any idea of how many ohms you get the 500 watts of orange goodness at out of the bass terror heads? Edited May 20, 2009 by adz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stylon Pilson Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 (edited) I thought it would probably be at 4 ohms, but [url="http://www.orange-amps.com/faqs.asp?ID=7"]this is their FAQ page[/url] and I'm not sure if I can entirely decipher it. S.P. Edited May 20, 2009 by Stylon Pilson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubinga5 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Try ther website maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adz Posted May 20, 2009 Author Share Posted May 20, 2009 Tried their site but there isn't anything. Have the head actually been released yet or is it available later on in the summer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted May 20, 2009 Share Posted May 20, 2009 Later this year. Im holding back for a bit...ive seen a cheeky 1000W version with more features is creeping around somewhere. Not sure about the SP cabs they are doing....hmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kongo Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 LOL when an Orange amp came into my band my rig was rendered...no good! The Orange Rockerverb is a quality amp and I wonder how the bass amps stack up? Not my bag though but it's interesting all the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_the_bass Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 I believe (having learned on this forum) that it doesn't matter, so long as you connect the right impedance cabinets to the right output - I'm assuming the amp will have 4, 8 and 16 ohm outputs - you should in theory get max power with any of those but you must connect the right impedance to the matching output. I am prepared to be corrected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 [quote name='john_the_bass' post='493942' date='May 21 2009, 08:47 AM']I believe (having learned on this forum) that it doesn't matter, so long as you connect the right impedance cabinets to the right output - I'm assuming the amp will have 4, 8 and 16 ohm outputs - you should in theory get max power with any of those but you must connect the right impedance to the matching output. I am prepared to be corrected [/quote] Just to confuse you John, the Bass Terror is a hybrid. Although it has a valve pre-amp, the output stage is solid state and so should be regarded as such for output power and speaker impedance. I've searched and been unable to find a proper specification for it anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_the_bass Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Oh flippin heck, it took me ages to learn all that I suppose it would make sense to be a hybrid as to knock out 500w would take what, 10 KT88s? That would be one very large and probably very heavy amp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 [quote name='john_the_bass' post='493960' date='May 21 2009, 09:27 AM']Oh flippin heck, it took me ages to learn all that I suppose it would make sense to be a hybrid as to knock out 500w would take what, 10 KT88s? That would be one very large and probably very heavy amp![/quote] Sorry to spoil your day but life's like that. Just when you get you head around something the goalposts move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kongo Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 [quote name='obbm' post='493953' date='May 21 2009, 09:09 AM']Just to confuse you John, the Bass Terror is a hybrid. Although it has a valve pre-amp, the output stage is solid state and so should be regarded as such for output power and speaker impedance. I've searched and been unable to find a proper specification for it anywhere.[/quote] Oh hell! The new Trace Elliot 12 band heads are like that too! I don't quite understand it so much... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obbm Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 [quote name='Kongo' post='494456' date='May 21 2009, 04:51 PM']Oh hell! The new Trace Elliot 12 band heads are like that too! I don't quite understand it so much... [/quote] There's nothing unusual about that really. It's no different to using a rack-mount valve pre-amp (Ampeg,Alembic, etc.) and a rack-mount solid-state power amp (QSC, Yamaha, etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Itll be interesting to see what it sounds like cf to the AD200b. If it was 500W all tube it would destroy everyone at 1/4 volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Just found out that the Terror bass has a switch on the side to allow 500 watts output at either 4 and 8 ohms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kongo Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='sk8' post='500044' date='May 28 2009, 05:04 PM']Just found out that the Terror bass has a switch on the side to allow 500 watts output at either 4 and 8 ohms.[/quote] Omg! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexclaber Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='sk8' post='500044' date='May 28 2009, 05:04 PM']Just found out that the Terror bass has a switch on the side to allow 500 watts output at either 4 and 8 ohms.[/quote] I wonder how they're doing that - lower rail voltage and higher current limiting for 4 ohms? GB and Mesa do something similar for 4/2 ohms on some of their heads so it's certainly possible but require a bespoke power stage. Alex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='Kongo' post='500045' date='May 28 2009, 05:06 PM']Omg![/quote] i know [quote name='alexclaber' post='500053' date='May 28 2009, 05:11 PM']I wonder how they're doing that - lower rail voltage and higher current limiting for 4 ohms? GB and Mesa do something similar for 4/2 ohms on some of their heads so it's certainly possible but require a bespoke power stage. Alex[/quote]Wonder how 500 watts of terror would sound going through a Compact.................... They also hinted that a 1000 watt terror would make an appearance soon ish but he could have been talking rollox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kongo Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='sk8' post='500066' date='May 28 2009, 05:19 PM']i know Wonder how 500 watts of terror would sound going through a Compact.................... They also hinted that a 1000 watt terror would make an appearance soon ish but he could have been talking rollox [/quote] Bloody hell...Need a whole lot of life savings for that! Never been to keen on Orange for bass but I love the sound of my mates Orange Rockerverb for guitar. And that's £1500 for 50 watts!!! (As a bassist that sounds so weedy lol!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 Agreed, but the Orange idea of watts always 'seems' MUCH louder than you think. I love all the Orange gear, whether it be Bass or Guitar. Mostly made in UK, nearly all tube gear, awesome colour and style. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kongo Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='Musicman20' post='500083' date='May 28 2009, 05:34 PM']Agreed, but the Orange idea of watts always 'seems' MUCH louder than you think. I love all the Orange gear, whether it be Bass or Guitar. Mostly made in UK, nearly all tube gear, awesome colour and style. [/quote] +1 TBH, volume is not all Watts. From an old forum I was told once that doubling your watts from 300 to 600 only increases volume by 3db...That's nothing! There's so much more than watts to volume...Tonight I was using an Ampeg SVT-3...not my choice...and it was quieter than my Laney home head!!! Had to push it so damn hard to get any level...and I tried everything I'd normally do. Same goes with Peavey...I'm not a great fan but they have some serious volume!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicman20 Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 [quote name='Kongo' post='500467' date='May 29 2009, 12:18 AM']+1 TBH, volume is not all Watts. From an old forum I was told once that doubling your watts from 300 to 600 only increases volume by 3db...That's nothing! There's so much more than watts to volume...Tonight I was using an Ampeg SVT-3...not my choice...and it was quieter than my Laney home head!!! Had to push it so damn hard to get any level...and I tried everything I'd normally do. Same goes with Peavey...I'm not a great fan but they have some serious volume!!![/quote] +1 on the SVT-3....could not get it to sound like it was cutting through without the vol being really high. Orange amps 'sounds' so loud. It must be just in the design...the cabs and the voicing perhaps? i did a lot of research on the RV heads, and the 100watt version is just insanely loud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kongo Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Musicman20' post='500481' date='May 29 2009, 12:43 AM']+1 on the SVT-3....could not get it to sound like it was cutting through without the vol being really high. Orange amps 'sounds' so loud. It must be just in the design...the cabs and the voicing perhaps? i did a lot of research on the RV heads, and the 100watt version is just insanely loud![/quote] Yeah I had the output at 3/4 way (yikes) and the input no more than 1/2 way as it would clip...and I ran it through my Trace Elliot 1048H cab...the cab was just laughing at how piss weak this "Profession" head was...Turning the volume dial a little bit did nothing...it felt like a trickle! And these are the amps so many bassists I like use!? Also the tone I got from either using the graphic or parametric mids was just a fart box smush...My bass sounded like cardboard! No way of getting clear highs or tight lows or punchy mids...just cardboard! I spose that's why Orange are so expensive...you don't get as much wattage as with other companies BUT you get the volume and tone. From the heads I've been using I've gotten used to A LOT of wattage...Like the Markbass SD800...now THAT'S power. But getting volume from low wattage...Peavey did this with the old amps and I think they still do now (Not tried the Tour Series yet) yet at a low price. But yeah, high wattage does not mean high volume...it's just an indication of headroom to me. Edited May 29, 2009 by Kongo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ficelles Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 [quote name='alexclaber' post='500053' date='May 28 2009, 05:11 PM']I wonder how they're doing that - lower rail voltage and higher current limiting for 4 ohms? GB and Mesa do something similar for 4/2 ohms on some of their heads so it's certainly possible but require a bespoke power stage. Alex[/quote] Different taps on the output transformer? ficelles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ficelles Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Just wondering on the Bass Terror, is it really overdrive only or is there a reasonable amount of clean headroom? ficelles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bankai Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 [quote name='sk8' post='500066' date='May 28 2009, 05:19 PM']They also hinted that a 1000 watt terror would make an appearance soon ish but he could have been talking rollox [/quote] It's real, and already in stores! We've got them at GuitarGuitar. Unsurprisingly, they are very loud! As for the original question, the amp has selectable impedance meaning you can get a full 500W out of it at either 4 or 8 Ohms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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