fretmeister Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 What's the cheapest (I know!) way to control 2 SA pedals with access to patches? I've got the Spectrum and the Ultrawave and they are even more fun together. Is it the proper SA Neural hub and their controller or are there other options? ta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ567 Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 The SA pedals can interface with MIDI in two ways: 1) the little control port (3.5mm TRRS jacks) 2) USB To do it the first way, you need the SA Neuro hub, plus any midi controller you like. For the second way, you would need a controller with USB MIDI hosting functionality (e.g. Morningstar), plus an additional USB midi hosting adapter (e.g. Disaster Area Midi ghost) for the second pedal. SA neuro hub + any controller is probably cheaper, unless your controller of choice has USB hosting anyway. NB you can DIY the second midi hosting adapter if you are handy with a soldering iron. This would save you maybe £50 off the Disaster area midi ghost. I posted on the DIY thread about this some time ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jakester Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 On 28/07/2022 at 12:12, AJ567 said: NB you can DIY the second midi hosting adapter if you are handy with a soldering iron. This would save you maybe £50 off the Disaster area midi ghost. I posted on the DIY thread about this some time ago. You don’t even need to DIY it. I bought one of these to us with my C4 and a Disaster area Micro and it works fine: https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00DM6EMQ2/ref=pe_27063361_487055811_TE_3p_dp_1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ567 Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 Yeah that cable/adapter will let you connect the usb ports on the controller and one of the SA pedals. But for the second pedal, you would need another 5-pin midi to usb converter, like this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted August 2, 2022 Share Posted August 2, 2022 Source Audio is about to launch an adapter that obliviates the need for the Hub. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moley6knipe Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 (edited) The TB thread on this states that the forthcoming adaptor will draw power from the control port (so, 1/8” TRRS) on the C4 etc. And there’s talk of 3.3v so I’m guessing the other end is a 5 pin DIN? Cabling wise (because of no thru capability) the pedal attached would need to be end of chain or fed from a midi splitter (especially if using 2 of them i guess). In a MIDI over TRS world, 1/8” or 1/4” as options instead of 5 pin DIN would give flexibility, but maybe not technically possible? I’m kinda assuming it’ll only work for the ‘current gen’ of the smaller One pedals (C4 onwards). I’d guess the older pedals like aftershock don’t have the required smarts. And the larger pedals are just ‘native midi’ so wouldn’t need this. I bit the bullet and bought the Neuro Hub, but for one or two SA pedals the adaptors would seem a good choice. Some thoughts, there 😃 Edited August 15, 2022 by moley6knipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ567 Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Looks like the new adapter has midi thru! So @fretmeister just needs two of them. Perfect solution. https://www.instagram.com/p/CgfSvWXAzt-/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moley6knipe Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Ah! Excellent. I don’t know what instagram is so I’ll take your word for it 😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fretmeister Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 18 minutes ago, moley6knipe said: Ah! Excellent. I don’t know what instagram is so I’ll take your word for it 😬 it seems to be a product advertising system interspaced with scientifically illiterate “wellness” posts and underfed women bending over wearing thongs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moley6knipe Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Really?!? Well, the world’s a twisted place! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quatschmacher Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 In case anyone missed it, two-way USB communication has now been added to Ventris, Nemesis, Collider and Spectrum. You’ll need to download the latest desktop editor to install the new firmware that supports this new feature on the pedals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichaelJR Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 I hope you find the perfect setup to maximize the potential of your Spectrum and Ultrawave pedals, creating even more musical magic together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trepapann Posted September 28, 2023 Share Posted September 28, 2023 (edited) I understand that your thread is a year old, and you're still in search of an economical way to control your two SA pedals, the Spectrum and Ultrawave, for an even more enjoyable musical experience. While your initial inquiry was made in 2022, it's worth considering that advancements in technology and product offerings may have occurred over the past year. I recommend revisiting the Source Audio community forums or exploring websites like lalightingandsound.com for updated information on budget-friendly MIDI control options. Since your original post, new solutions might have emerged that are tailored to your specific needs. Edited September 30, 2023 by Trepapann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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