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I know there's already a thread about the "late 50s" Precision, but it seems that Squier have gone on a full blown tour of Fender bass eras!

 

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From early 50s through to the 70s.  Look at that none more seventies "walnut" job at the end.

 

There are 60s and 70s Jazzes too, but I CBA getting the pics together for those :P  Yes, there's a special colour one too - a 60s Daphne blue/tort/laurel subbing for rosewood.  No matching headstock on that one though.

 

There's a left handed 60s P in sunburst, a lefty 70s J in black and there's a fretless J in 60s sunburst. 

 

I am a sucker for the anodised pickguard of the late 50s model, but I love blocks too and there's something inside me that wants to give that walnut one a home, in spite of its rather grim colour.

 

I will say that I think this is the best lineup I've ever seen Squier put out - a respectful nod to Fender's history.

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On 15/11/2021 at 10:32, neepheid said:

I know there's already a thread about the "late 50s" Precision, but it seems that Squier have gone on a full blown tour of Fender bass eras!

 

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From early 50s through to the 70s.  Look at that none more seventies "walnut" job at the end.

 

There are 60s and 70s Jazzes too, but I CBA getting the pics together for those :P  Yes, there's a special colour one too - a 60s Daphne blue/tort/laurel subbing for rosewood.  No matching headstock on that one though.

 

There's a left handed 60s P in sunburst, a lefty 70s J in black and there's a fretless J in 60s sunburst. 

 

I am a sucker for the anodised pickguard of the late 50s model, but I love blocks too and there's something inside me that wants to give that walnut one a home, in spite of its rather grim colour.

 

I will say that I think this is the best lineup I've ever seen Squier put out - a respectful nod to Fender's history.

I do miss my Fender '51 Precision. These are very tempting!

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2 hours ago, bloke_zero said:

 

This!  And leave it on there for a day or two... made one of my Pau Ferro boards look wonderful!  Remember it's permanent as well... but I wouldn't hesitate to use it on any PF board in future - I don't like the 'dry' looking colour of it either and this was a godsend!

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5 hours ago, Anatonic said:

 

This!  And leave it on there for a day or two... made one of my Pau Ferro boards look wonderful!  Remember it's permanent as well... but I wouldn't hesitate to use it on any PF board in future - I don't like the 'dry' looking colour of it either and this was a godsend!

Liking the look of that!  Will it work if the fretboard has already had some lemon oil on it?

 

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5 hours ago, Anatonic said:

 

This!  And leave it on there for a day or two... made one of my Pau Ferro boards look wonderful!  Remember it's permanent as well... but I wouldn't hesitate to use it on any PF board in future - I don't like the 'dry' looking colour of it either and this was a godsend!

|Nice, I may have to get some of that, any idea if it will darken the back of the neck, I have a bass that has quite a pale maple neck, thinking this may work well for it

 

Also how do you use this? Is it a very light coat rubbed in and then you wipe the neck down a day or two later or do you layer it on a bit thicker ?

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33 minutes ago, shoulderpet said:

|Nice, I may have to get some of that, any idea if it will darken the back of the neck, I have a bass that has quite a pale maple neck, thinking this may work well for it

 

Also how do you use this? Is it a very light coat rubbed in and then you wipe the neck down a day or two later or do you layer it on a bit thicker ?

I imagine you want something amber tinted for that 

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14 hours ago, bloke_zero said:

Just had a look at the video and was reminded of a trick I have used before to spruce up a dry light looking fretboard which is to rub kiwi shoe polish into the fretboard, I am wondering if this something with similar ingredients to kiwi shoe polish

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I saw somebody reply to this thread concerning the quality of Squier's newest CV offerings. While I've only briefly played one of the older models (a Jazz) years ago, all I can say is that I own the late 50's CV P and it is absolutely fantastic. The body and neck are spot on, the glossy neck finish is absolutely gorgeous and the fret job is absolutely top notch. The hardware is typical Fender quality, functional and well made just a little uninspiring if boutique is your bag. The electronics are nice and get you into familiar territory, the pots feel quality too. I'll admit I prefer a slightly hotter P pickup than whatever is in this bass so I've ordered a replacement Seymour Duncan SPB-4, but there is no doubt in my mind you could buy one, go straight to a gig and still sound great.

 

I obviously can't speak for the rest of the lineup, but from my experience the late 50's P is positively outstanding at this price point. Wipes the floor with any Fender I've personally owned, and a healthy few of the nicer ones I've tried out too.

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I have very mixed feelings about these instruments because of my experiences.

Starting from the most relevant to the post, I got a used 2021 50s P bass (single coil model) for a decent price, and after taking it home to set up with my favourite strings I realised that the truss rod turned but had literally no effect on the neck.
After visiting my luthier who told me the neck was shot and not worth repairing, I got a deal on a Fender replacement 51 neck (mexican) and replaced the pretty, yet faulty, squier neck. This got me a bit mad but I'm glad I now have a kinda custom bass (the pickguard is handmade by me):
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Going back in time I also own a '70s Jacck from 2020 and a '60s P from the same year.
The jazz has the truss rod bumping up the fifth fret, making playing on the 4th on any string extremely buzzy unless precisely set with light strings; the '60s P had the neck going up and down on its own and I got used to it.

 

These instruments look great IMHO and sound very well for the price point, but I can't ignore the fact that the necks, apart from being very comfortable and pretty looking, are just rubbish structure-wise...

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4 hours ago, SonnyBassPlayer said:

I have very mixed feelings about these instruments because of my experiences.

Starting from the most relevant to the post, I got a used 2021 50s P bass (single coil model) for a decent price, and after taking it home to set up with my favourite strings I realised that the truss rod turned but had literally no effect on the neck.
After visiting my luthier who told me the neck was shot and not worth repairing, I got a deal on a Fender replacement 51 neck (mexican) and replaced the pretty, yet faulty, squier neck. This got me a bit mad but I'm glad I now have a kinda custom bass (the pickguard is handmade by me):
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Going back in time I also own a '70s Jacck from 2020 and a '60s P from the same year.
The jazz has the truss rod bumping up the fifth fret, making playing on the 4th on any string extremely buzzy unless precisely set with light strings; the '60s P had the neck going up and down on its own and I got used to it.

 

These instruments look great IMHO and sound very well for the price point, but I can't ignore the fact that the necks, apart from being very comfortable and pretty looking, are just rubbish structure-wise...

I have mixed feelings also, I brought a CV Jaguar bass and sent the first one back because the neck was about five different shades of red, it was literally pillar box red around the 12th fret so it went back, shame as it played well.

 

The replacement did not have a day Glo red neck but it had the worst fretwork and fret buzz I ever heard and buzzed on every fret, the people in the factory obviously knew it was a lemon as they cranked the action way high to try and offset the buzz, I briefly thought about having someone look at the frets but then by the time I spend the money to do that I could get a used Mim Fender so I decided against it.

 

There may be some great CV Squiers but I had 2 lemons in a row so unless I can play the bass in person or it is used (and only if on this forum) and the person can vouch that it is not a lemon then I am done with CV Squiers

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1 hour ago, shoulderpet said:

I have mixed feelings also, I brought a CV Jaguar bass and sent the first one back because the neck was about five different shades of red, it was literally pillar box red around the 12th fret so it went back, shame as it played well.

 

The replacement did not have a day Glo red neck but it had the worst fretwork and fret buzz I ever heard and buzzed on every fret, the people in the factory obviously knew it was a lemon as they cranked the action way high to try and offset the buzz, I briefly thought about having someone look at the frets but then by the time I spend the money to do that I could get a used Mim Fender so I decided against it.

 

There may be some great CV Squiers but I had 2 lemons in a row so unless I can play the bass in person or it is used (and only if on this forum) and the person can vouch that it is not a lemon then I am done with CV Squiers

It's always a bummer to hear somebody gets a lemon or two. I've owned a pile of basses and there have been lemons in about all of them. The most surprising of these was a MusicMan Stingray 5. Don't get me wrong it was very nice, but nothing on that bass was indicative of it being worth upwards of £2000. Now, with how many people give Musicmans outstanding reviews it's very possible I just got a bit of a bum deal, but it's nevertheless much more disappointing to spend £2000+ on a lemon than under £400. 

 

I wouldn't discount the CV line because of a couple of bad experiences. Like every mass manufactured bass, there are bound to be one or two that slip through the veil and this is undoubtedly more common on cheaper instruments with less rigourous QC procedures. But speaking from experience, my latest CV Late 50's P is up there with the very best of them. It was a gamble, bought sight unseen but it has paid off hugely. As I've said before the fretwork is absolutely spot on, and there is not one ugly blemish on the entire bass. If I were to be extremely picky, I filed the edges of the nut down a little to smooth it off and the edge of the anodised guard where it meets the neck could have been done ever so slightly cleaner. But on a bass that cost me only £360, plays and looks beautiful and which I vastly prefer to some £2000+ basses I've owned? I'll take that any day!

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