SteveXFR Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Are there any compressor pedals other than the Cali 76 that are based on the 1176 studio compressor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyt Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Isn’t the FET setting on the Hyper Luminal based on the 1176? Check out Amos Hellers review on YouTube, is pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 @garyt Thanks, I'll take a look at that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 The hyper luminal looks cool! arn't the different compressor modes digitally modelled? It does have an Analog signal path, but I'd be curious to see If the FET model, is a match for my Cali76CB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witch Hazel Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 i've got the Hyper Luminal and i really like it (which is good, given what i paid for it!). yes, the compressor sidechain is digital - which is handy since you can connect it to a computer with a USB cable and adjust some of the parameters, like the behaviour of the 'time' knob (which is a combined attack+release control). you can also switch it to 'guitar' mode if you play one of those. i haven't used the Cali 76, so i can't compare it to that, but i find all three modes have a different and interesting character. FET sounds most transparent to my ear, so i normally use it in that mode, and sometimes switch to SYM for the nice dark tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted July 20, 2021 Author Share Posted July 20, 2021 It would be the FET mode that would interest me since that'll be closest to the 1176. I didn't think the 1176 was overly transparent with my Stingray, it had a fair effect on the tone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 MXR M87 Bass Compressor and M76 Studio Compressor (same pedal, different paint job) are apparently both 1176-inspired 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51m0n Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) A huge part of an 1176 is the saturation it adds. The original big Cali had some of that, and they did a Lundahl transformer version that would have some different flavoured saturation from the original. I would like to know if any of the other pedal based FET 76 'clones' actually do this too, given how rare it is to find a rack 76 clone that manages to do so. Edited July 21, 2021 by 51m0n 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, MartinB said: MXR M87 Bass Compressor and M76 Studio Compressor (same pedal, different paint job) are apparently both 1176-inspired I had the M87 I couldn't get rid of it fast enough. Very transparent, attack/release controls seemed to have very little effect and by far the noisiest comp I've ever had. All purely IMO of course as the pedal has its fans. It sounded nothing like the Cali76 which adds a nice subtle sheen to your tone, (as described in ovnilab like adding a high quality preamp) its just light years ahead of the MXR in every way. I think the MXRS control set is similar to the 1176 and that's it. Edited July 21, 2021 by lee650 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, 51m0n said: A huge part of an 1176 is the saturation it adds. The original big Cali had some of that, and they did a Lundahl transformer version that would have some different flavoured saturation from the original. I would like to know if any of the other pedal based FET 76 'clones' actually do this too, given how rare it is to find a rack 76 clone that manages to do so. Yeah i wish they could impart some of that in the Compact bass. One chap on here added a Hudson Broadcast to get nearer that sound,great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ped Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 41 minutes ago, lee650 said: I had the M87 I couldn't get rid of it fast enough. Very transparent, attack/release controls seemed to have very little effect and by far the noisiest comp I've ever had. All purely IMO of course as the pedal has its fans. It sounded nothing like the Cali76 which adds a nice subtle sheen to your tone, (as described in ovnilab like adding a high quality preamp) its just light years ahead of the MXR in every way. I think the MXRS control set is similar to the 1176 and that's it. Interesting!! I got rid of my FEA Opti-comp in favour of the MXR, which I found worked ten times better as a limiter and found quieter than the FEA. It's got the lowest noise floor of any pedal based comp I've tried (on battery) You're right though, the MXR is similar to the 1176 in the set of controls only. As far as I know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiMarco Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 I owned both Darkglass compressors but chose to keep the Cali76cb as it adds some lovely texture the DG pedals seemed to lack. My tone gets more grippy in the mix with it without sounding obviously different. For some extra gravy in the mix I can use the EHX Black Finger, combining it with the Cali gets me the Punch from 1176 plus the warmth from LA-2A like compression. I seldomly require both compressors though. The Finger works especially well with Pbass like tone, the Cali with just about everything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinB Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 1 hour ago, ped said: Interesting!! I got rid of my FEA Opti-comp in favour of the MXR, which I found worked ten times better as a limiter and found quieter than the FEA. It's got the lowest noise floor of any pedal based comp I've tried (on battery) You're right though, the MXR is similar to the 1176 in the set of controls only. As far as I know. Yeah - I did qualify it as "apparently" "inspired by", because there looks to have been a lot of assumptions about it (which are not in MXR's interest to correct!). Ovnilabs describes it like this: "People who want minimal coloration will be pleased, but people who want "tone magic" will be disappointed. Because of the claims about the M87 being "based on" the Urei 1176, consumers may assume or wish that the M87 will give them a famous vintage tone quality. It will not. It's a great-sounding pedal, it's better than a good percentage of the other pedals out there, but it is not a magic vintage recording-studio tone box. It's just a good, clean compressor with some useful features, that happens to use a circuit and control layout similar to the basic concept of the Urei." -- http://www.ovnilab.com/reviews/mxrbass.shtml How important is "magic" to you, @SteveXFR? 🎩 DryBell Unit67 is another option btw. They describe it as an "an 1176 type of compressor" - interpret that as you will! 🙂 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 35 minutes ago, MartinB said: How important is "magic" to you, @SteveXFR? 🎩 Basically I played my Stingray through an 1176 in a studio and it sounded amazing isolated and in a mix. I'd like to get as close to that as possible for under £300. I appreciate I'll never get exactly the same sound because I don't own a vintage Ampeg SVT although I played through the SVT with and without the compressor and it was with the 1167 that it really come alive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 2 hours ago, MartinB said: Yeah - I did qualify it as "apparently" "inspired by", because there looks to have been a lot of assumptions about it (which are not in MXR's interest to correct!). Ovnilabs describes it like this: "People who want minimal coloration will be pleased, but people who want "tone magic" will be disappointed. Because of the claims about the M87 being "based on" the Urei 1176, consumers may assume or wish that the M87 will give them a famous vintage tone quality. It will not. It's a great-sounding pedal, it's better than a good percentage of the other pedals out there, but it is not a magic vintage recording-studio tone box. It's just a good, clean compressor with some useful features, that happens to use a circuit and control layout similar to the basic concept of the Urei." -- http://www.ovnilab.com/reviews/mxrbass.shtml How important is "magic" to you, @SteveXFR? 🎩 DryBell Unit67 is another option btw. They describe it as an "an 1176 type of compressor" - interpret that as you will! 🙂 Absolutely spot on!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee650 Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 4 hours ago, ped said: Interesting!! I got rid of my FEA Opti-comp in favour of the MXR, which I found worked ten times better as a limiter and found quieter than the FEA. It's got the lowest noise floor of any pedal based comp I've tried (on battery) You're right though, the MXR is similar to the 1176 in the set of controls only. As far as I know. That's funny as I've been thinking of selling my cali76 CB to buy an optifet 😂 Depends what you want from a comp, I want gentle softening of the sound,maybe level out string pops when slapping, but mostly a magical little box,that just gives the sound a little lift ( like the Diamond,3 leaf Pwnzor,cali76 etc) if you want a hard clean limiter then I'd imagine the MXR will work well for you 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) - Edited March 15, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jus Lukin said: If you're not entirely wedded to pedals there is the Klark Teknik 76-KT for just upwards of £200. Is that any good? The only review I've seen of Klark Teknik kit ended with a sledge hammer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jus Lukin Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 (edited) - Edited March 15, 2022 by Jus Lukin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted July 21, 2021 Author Share Posted July 21, 2021 Warning, contains an angry Canadian and some naughty words 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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