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As over the years there has been so much press about Ampeg PF amps failing or cutting out I’ve started an owners club post for people who are using and enjoying their PF350, PF500 or PF800

Recently purchased ( 2021 model ) I’m liking the growl and warmth this PF500 gives. It sounds very nice with my Ashdown Pro Neo cabs too 

Under Yamaha ownership I’m hoping Ampeg have sorted their QC issues and the PF range become loved again 7EB9BD5A-F34F-45BC-B7DE-E988BA05456B.thumb.jpeg.6002af4f89e916625304c02cca6cdc35.jpeg

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Love Ampeg! The huge gain in quality control will ultimately mean a loss in character. Yamaha are so precise in their quality control and are second to no one! However, Yamaha manufacture their equipment to the nth degree of perfection and unfortunately for Ampeg in my opinion, will lose that ingrained character Ampeg has so readily on offer when you switch on an amp. Ampeg will though, through Yamaha, become an international powerhouse again.

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I owned a couple of PF500s and they were my main amp for years. I am now back to Orange but still have the PF50t (which although not mentioned should make the club!) gathering dust in a gig bag. All brilliant heads.

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6 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

Are newly built ones reliable now?

It was only the first batch that were iffy... and to be fair they were shocking. Ampeg rectified the fault inside of about 6 months but they really shouldn't have gone out like that in the first place. I started using them around 2014 and they were all fine from there on in. I owned two and used a fair few in studios with no problems ever.

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I was hesitant buying one, but it’s now 2021 and if you get a new one I’m confident it will be totally as reliable as any Class D amp

Sadly the past issues still plague this line of great amps and maybe that’s why Ampeg keep the prices affordable for the PF line 

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27 minutes ago, Cat Burrito said:

It was only the first batch that were iffy... and to be fair they were shocking. Ampeg rectified the fault inside of about 6 months but they really shouldn't have gone out like that in the first place. I started using them around 2014 and they were all fine from there on in. I owned two and used a fair few in studios with no problems ever.

I think some of the failures were folk running the input gain very high ( distorted input ) which I think most amps would suffer if ran like that for hours 

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I still have mine, bought new 9 years ago. Went wrong and was replaced and has been fine ever since. I love the sound but have since moved to Ashdown as I wanted to support a British company

But I still have the Ampeg in my practice room. It has done a lot of gigs under my ownership

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Yep 2012 seems to be the era where many fell over and of course people sold them so the issues moved along for a few years later

The current ones have a new serial number format as part of the Yamaha QC changes 

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3 hours ago, andy67 said:

The huge gain in quality control will ultimately mean a loss in character. Yamaha are so precise in their quality control and are second to no one! However, Yamaha manufacture their equipment to the nth degree of perfection and unfortunately for Ampeg in my opinion, will lose that ingrained character Ampeg has so readily on offer when you switch on an amp.

the new Ampeg Rocket Bass combos launched under Yamaha ownership and (at least over on TB) seem to be fairly well received, with "the Ampeg sound" intact.   Yamaha must surely be aware that that's a big part of why people buy their gear and wouldn't want to mess with that. 

also, please may i join your club!

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4 hours ago, andy67 said:

Love Ampeg! The huge gain in quality control will ultimately mean a loss in character. Yamaha are so precise in their quality control and are second to no one! However, Yamaha manufacture their equipment to the nth degree of perfection and unfortunately for Ampeg in my opinion, will lose that ingrained character Ampeg has so readily on offer when you switch on an amp.

Sorry, I keep re-reading this, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't make sense. Design and quality control are two different things.

Making sure that the manufacture of Ampeg products is as reliable as possible won't change the sound. Altering the designs would, but buying out a classic and well loved brand to remove that which makes it valuable would be very poor business. Doesn't mean they won't do that- stranger things have happened- but making sure that as few faulty products leave the factory as possible won't damage the character of the designs.

If they're going to change anything, the Ampeg website could do with a spruce up! 😄

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2 hours ago, Jus Lukin said:

Sorry, I keep re-reading this, but I'm pretty sure it doesn't make sense. Design and quality control are two different things.

Making sure that the manufacture of Ampeg products is as reliable as possible won't change the sound. Altering the designs would, but buying out a classic and well loved brand to remove that which makes it valuable would be very poor business. Doesn't mean they won't do that- stranger things have happened- but making sure that as few faulty products leave the factory as possible won't damage the character of the designs.

If they're going to change anything, the Ampeg website could do with a spruce up! 😄

I’ve played Yamaha and Ampeg for around 35 years but to illustrate my point. In the 80s when I was growing up as a bass player, i played around 20 fender basses before choosing the right fit for me. This was because some were crap, some were mediocre and some were brilliant - in my view - this to me was individual character. Ampeg are exactly the same. As a 6 time owner of SVT 3pros, each had its own character from, US to Korean to Vietnamese to Chinese. However, of all the Yamaha basses I’ve owned, BB1600, BB424/425, BB714, BBG5, BB604, TRBX5, TRB5, Yamaha Attitude Se, LTD mk1 & mk2, they have all been exactly as specified and perfectly manufactured right down to the point where each lacked the individual character of old Fender basses of which, Yamaha copied beautifully. 😎🥳 And now that Yamaha own Ampeg, Ampeg equipment will be meticulously reproduced to ensure they are all of the same quality. I own my now 7th SVT-3pro and it’s perfect. The warranty supplied by Yamaha ensures my satisfaction. 

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21 minutes ago, andy67 said:

I’ve played Yamaha and Ampeg for around 35 years but to illustrate my point. In the 80s when I was growing up as a bass player, i played around 20 fender basses before choosing the right fit for me. This was because some were crap, some were mediocre and some were brilliant - in my view - this to me was individual character. Ampeg are exactly the same. As a 6 time owner of SVT 3pros, each had its own character from, US to Korean to Vietnamese to Chinese. However, of all the Yamaha basses I’ve owned, BB1600, BB424/425, BB714, BBG5, BB04, TRBX5, TRB5, Yamaha Attitude Se, LTD mk1 & mk2, they have all been exactly as specified and perfectly manufactured right down to the point where each lacked the individual character of old Fender basses of which, Yamaha copied beautifully. 😎🥳

Ah, gotcha! That's what I wasn't putting together!

I hadn't really considered that side of it.

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On 07/07/2021 at 15:07, Witch Hazel said:

the new Ampeg Rocket Bass combos launched under Yamaha ownership and (at least over on TB) seem to be fairly well received, with "the Ampeg sound" intact.   Yamaha must surely be aware that that's a big part of why people buy their gear and wouldn't want to mess with that. 

also, please may i join your club!

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Perfect fit for a vertical BF210?? Oh man, I almost made it out of the thread GAS-free!

 

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19 hours ago, andy67 said:

Does my PF50T allow me access to the group? 🙏

Really want to try these, but keep feeling like I want the preamp of the PF-20 and the power section of the PF-50.

 

What cab are you running with it?

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2 hours ago, tayste_2000 said:

Really want to try these, but keep feeling like I want the preamp of the PF-20 and the power section of the PF-50.

 

What cab are you running with it?

I love my PF-50T. I did think about the 20T but decided I wanted the flexibility and eq options of the 50. I run for small gigs, my Hartke HD112 and for larger gigs, my Hartke AK410. Although, the HD112 is plenty for both. 👍

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