Barking Spiders Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, SteveXFR said: I'm with you on the Sex Pistols. They were just a bit cheesy. Ramones were OK but once you've heard one of their songs you've heard them all For me, the greats of 70's punk were The Clash, The Damned, The Ruts and The Stranglers. I'm also a big fan of Dead Kennedys and Misfits but I think they're 80's With you all the way there but no Buzzcocks or SLF?. Been a long time of the DK's and was playing Give Me Convenience or Give me Death in the car today I just can't get into prog at all, not the 70s bands big time or cult, nor anything since. That said when some of the 70s UK proggers changed tack that's another matter. Up to the Belew-Levin era I can't take King Crimson but Discipline is a cracker. Edited June 2, 2021 by Barking Spiders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, Barking Spiders said: With you all the way there but no Buzzcocks or SLF?. Been a long time of the DK's and was playing Give Me Convenience or Give me Death in the car today I just can't get into prog at all, not the 70s bands big time or cult, nor anything since. That said when some of the 70s UK proggers changed tack that's another matter. Up to the Belew-Levin era I can't take King Crimson but Discipline is a cracker. As far as I can tell, prog is complicated for the sake of being complicated. I dislike Joe Satriani, Joe Bonamassa and Jaco Pistorious for the same reason. I guess punk is the absolute opposite. Simple, to the point and effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, SteveXFR said: As far as I can tell, prog is complicated for the sake of being complicated. I dislike Joe Satriani, Joe Bonamassa and Jaco Pistorious for the same reason. I guess punk is the absolute opposite. Simple, to the point and effective. Maybe it's a function of whether one enjoys jumping up and down or sitting quietly and listening..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dad3353 said: Maybe it's a function of whether one enjoys jumping up and down or sitting quietly and listening..? I don't think so. I listen to music a lot while sat at my desk working or while just sat doing nothing and I still think it's just pointless, fancy rubbish and half the tapping and fancy stuff isn't really adding to it as a piece of music. To me a ot of it just feels crowbared in. I feel the same about YouTube slappers playing a million notes a minute while sounding like a filing cabinet falling down a fire escape. I enjoy punks simplicity and brutality and its honesty. It's just not trying to be fancy. I do enjoy some more complex music such as Tool, Gojira and Rush but I enjoy them as complete pieces of music rather than just a series of solos which never go anywhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dad3353 Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 5 minutes ago, SteveXFR said: ...I enjoy punks simplicity and brutality and its honesty. It's just not trying to be fancy... Are you saying that you actually sit down and listen quietly to punk's simplicity and brutality..? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted June 2, 2021 Author Share Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, SteveXFR said: I don't think so. I listen to music a lot while sat at my desk working or while just sat doing nothing and I still think it's just pointless, fancy rubbish and half the tapping and fancy stuff isn't really adding to it as a piece of music. To me a ot of it just feels crowbared in. I feel the same about YouTube slappers playing a million notes a minute while sounding like a filing cabinet falling down a fire escape. I enjoy punks simplicity and brutality and its honesty. It's just not trying to be fancy. I do enjoy some more complex music such as Tool, Gojira and Rush but I enjoy them as complete pieces of music rather than just a series of solos which never go anywhere. Yep, for me listening to/playing music is visceral. I prefer stuff where the music's generally visceral (trance, downtempo, metal, funk, grunge, drum n' bass, punk/new wave/post punk, hip hop) and the lyrics can be sardonic, satirical, acerbic, darkly humourous, anti-establishment or pro environment (Clash, Public Enemy, Dead Kennedys, Gojira, Lamb of God, Rage Against the Machine) Edited June 2, 2021 by Barking Spiders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casapete Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, SteveXFR said: I enjoy punks simplicity and brutality and its honesty. It's just not trying to be fancy. I get this - that's why I also like blues, country and soul music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveXFR Posted June 2, 2021 Share Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Dad3353 said: Are you saying that you actually sit down and listen quietly to punk's simplicity and brutality..? ... Sounds odd but yes. I can sit down with a nice whisky and the dog on my lap (she's a bit of a lump but she insists) and enjoy a lovely bit of New York hardcore or some good old fashioned Oi. I've got some Wisdom In Chains on now. Cap City to be precise, great song and based on real events 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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