TheGreek Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) https://www.loudersound.com/news/cliff-burton-day-metallica-2021 Edited February 10, 2021 by TheGreek 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noisyjon Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) And why not! Here he is going at it with the fuzz and wah: Edited February 9, 2021 by Noisyjon 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drax Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Stumbled on this the other day - pretty cool, ‘Cliff’ taking the lead line on the intro. Love how much time people have to make these things.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 (edited) I met cliff and co in shades records back in '85. I asked him for some advice for playing bass . "Get a phaser! " Top bloke . It was touch and go if I could meet the band , as the ad in kerrang said 12.30 They didn't show up until after 4pm and I got a frosty reception from my bosses in the office . Long story .. Edited February 9, 2021 by RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bartelby Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Still my number one bass: 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 This will probably get me tarred, feathered and drummed out of the Brownies... ...but... ...I've heard a fair bit of Cliff Burton's playing, but nothing that has ever stood out to me as particularly special. It's all a bit "yeah, so what?". My flameproof pants await. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munurmunuh Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 9 hours ago, Drax said: Stumbled on this the other day - pretty cool, ‘Cliff’ taking the lead line on the intro. Love how much time people have to make these things.. Thank you for that, it led me to go through some of his other videos. Sodding witchcraft. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/rayhburton1/posts/1633429060378664 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christhammer666 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Rich said: This will probably get me tarred, feathered and drummed out of the Brownies... ...but... ...I've heard a fair bit of Cliff Burton's playing, but nothing that has ever stood out to me as particularly special. It's all a bit "yeah, so what?". My flameproof pants await. each to their own mate. I think he was an absolute genius but quite a few people think the same as you 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) 11 hours ago, Rich said: This will probably get me tarred, feathered and drummed out of the Brownies... ...but... ...I've heard a fair bit of Cliff Burton's playing, but nothing that has ever stood out to me as particularly special. It's all a bit "yeah, so what?". My flameproof pants await. Fair point Rich. With cliff, it wasn't just about what he did on record . Having said that you've probably heard by now ( rightly ) , that Cliff plus the other bass players after him had more or less kept metallica going when they were up against it and in trouble.Metallica know how lucky they are/ were with having a great bass player with them always. We all know they treated Jason appallingly bad , and were lucky to get Robert. The difference with cliff, is that he was also a songwriter in metallica ,and wrote killer songs . Live, he was the person who was the focus with his anesthesia solo , which was him using old fashioned basic guitar effects . It was songs like Orion and call of ktula and whom the bell tolls which imho highlighted his talents . I think the big deal with cliff , was that he was the person who was the driving force of metallica and the rest of the band relied a lot on him . He just never got around to fulfill his full potential as he did an awful lot in a short time .. Edited February 10, 2021 by RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 If I don't like an artist much, I won't go into a thread with their name in the title to stomp on their grave. Lately people have been going on about how great Cliff Williams is or Rick Willis. Nothing against them really, but I find their bass arrangement incredibly boring. Sure, they serve the songs. Cliff was avant-garde, I'm reminded of when Terence Butler was the first to record a bass through a Wah. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 "Stomp on their grave" just gave me a proper chuckle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 it's adjacent to dancing, but not as harsh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 And a million miles from anything that has happened on this thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewblack Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Music and those musicians who speak to us. It's such a deeply personal, primal phenomenon. I sincerely believe its impossible to explain to someone who doesn't hear it, who doesn't get what you experience. I gave an example of a favourite part of a song by a bass magician once. The first response was along the lines of, well that's nothing special, it's just such and such a scale over such and such a chord. The bass line touched on something special and inspirational in me. That isn't something I can give to someone else. You feel it or you don't. Cliff Burton clearly had this effect on plenty of musicians and music fans. That's great. You can't measure it, you can't explain it. And that's great too. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 Agreed, that's what's so wonderful about music. Well, one of the things. It talks to us on a personal level, and it says something different to each of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 (edited) I was involved in a several-cornered debate on Farcebook the other day on the subject of musicians' visas and free movement in the EU and so on. One of the participants in the exchange said, and I quote, "frankly, the less music the better". I was astounded, I had to ask him if he was serious. He was. Apparently he doesn't mind anyone else listening to it personally (oooh, that's nice of him!) but he hates "being assaulted by it". I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around such a view. His world wouldn't be worth living in. Edited February 10, 2021 by Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Rich said: And a million miles from anything that has happened on this thread. tribute to Cliff 'So what!' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Killed_by_Death said: tribute to Cliff 'So what!' mild personal opinion on the music, not the man himself "you're stomping on his grave!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rich said: I was involved in a several-cornered debate on Farcebook the other day on the subject of musicians' visas and free movement in the EU and so on. One of the participants in the exchange said, and I quote, "frankly, the less music the better". I was astounded, I had to ask him if he was serious. He was. Apparently he doesn't mind anyone else listening to it personally (oooh, that's nice of him!) but he hates "being assaulted by it". I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around such a view. His world wouldn't be worth living in. I’ve come into contact with people who don’t ‘get’ music. Not a particular style, just music, any music. It just doesn’t interest them. I too find it utterly impossible to comprehend. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killed_by_Death Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I regret commenting, as usual. Have a good day! Cliff's birthday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, 4000 said: I’ve come into contact with people who don’t ‘get’ music. Not a particular style, just music, any music. It just doesn’t interest them. I too find it utterly impossible to comprehend. Astonishing isn't it? I mean, what actually moves these people? Are they deranged puppy-stranglers or just utterly grey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRedX Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 I think there is a good case to protest the "overabundance" of music. I like to listen to music, but mostly when I choose to, and also I value the ability to not have to listen to a load of unnecessary music whose sole purpose appears to be the filling the silence. Maybe this is a subject for a separate thread? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4000 Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 47 minutes ago, Rich said: Astonishing isn't it? I mean, what actually moves these people? Are they deranged puppy-stranglers or just utterly grey? “Deranged puppy stranglers”.😂😂😂 Oh, I’m stealing that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barking Spiders Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 2 hours ago, 4000 said: I’ve come into contact with people who don’t ‘get’ music. Not a particular style, just music, any music. It just doesn’t interest them. I too find it utterly impossible to comprehend. How about people with autism or misophonia? They generally don't connect with music because their brains are wired differently. My dad had aspergers, my good lady's youngest child has it and a friend of our's daughter has misophonia. None of them have/had interest in music of any sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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