Aidan63 Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 A lot of you will know because you signed the e-petition on the Gov.uk website and have had the email today but for those who haven't the matter will be discussed shortly On Monday 8 February the Petitions Committee will hold a virtual e-petition session to discuss arrangements for UK musicians in the EU. So maybe time to get your views into your MP for presentation to the session. It looks like the government will continue to blame the EU for the situation that has arisen as per the initial response to the e-petition, so I'm not expecting any great change but worth trying to raise the importance of the matter to your MP, there is clearly enough support amongst the population for a solution as the petition gained enough signatures to be debated very very quickly, most e-petitions get nowhere. I was going to add this to the original thread but it has been locked. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 (NOTE: Petitions are debated in the smaller Westminster Hall, not the main Chamber of the HOC. Usually very few attend, they just could not be A###d. The Government usually gives a "Rubber Stamp" reply.This is a politically neutral statement! I'm sorry that's the way it is.) But do contact your MP, this is a serious loss to the economy and to the arts. More details rom the email: "On Monday 8 February the Petitions Committee will hold a virtual e-petition session to discuss arrangements for UK musicians in the EU. MPs will discuss arrangements for UK musicians in the EU in light of the petition you have signed calling for a Europe-wide visa-free work permit for touring professionals and artists. Caroline Dinenage, Minister for Digital and Culture, will respond for the Government." Watch live from 4.30pm on Monday 8 February: https://youtu.be/VsaAKoULWNs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It should be noted that the petition has only run for a little over a month and has already reached 280,000 signatories. This is unusually high, I think only petitions about the B word have reached such numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ambient Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 There’s a useful Facebook post here from Fish, ex-singer from Marillion. It’s rather long, but well worth taking the time to read. It lists the various ways the current situation will impact touring. Bear in mind the guy has years of experience in international touring, what he’s saying is based on his experience, not on what some guy told him down the pub. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157827728953587&id=54830663586 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickD Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, ambient said: There’s a useful Facebook post here from Fish, ex-singer from Marillion. It’s rather long, but well worth taking the time to read. It lists the various ways the current situation will impact touring. Bear in mind the guy has years of experience in international touring, what he’s saying is based on his experience, not on what some guy told him down the pub. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10157827728953587&id=54830663586 Unrelated to the topic in hand, there was (and probably still is) an interesting blog post on Fish's website, maybe 10 years old, about the costs of touring (generally, not a Brexit related thing), costs, who takes what, ways he's found to keep it viable, and how many times he's had to remortgage his home to keep at it, etc. It was a really good read. Related to the topic, my MP is the culture secretary, a typical party line yes man... I shall of course lean on him, but I know from previous dealings with him that I may as well try to nail water to the ceiling. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petebassist Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 It's difficult to be optimistic - the pandemic seems to act as a smoke screen for Brexit and vice versa. I suspect that only when the dust settles on Covid19 and people start travelling & working in the EU will they start to understand the repercussions, and then there's gonna be a sh!tstorm. We should be marching and protesting right outside the House Of Commons. So I think this will get sorted, but not for a while and not without a massive effort, maybe under a new government. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteb Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 24 minutes ago, petebassist said: It's difficult to be optimistic - the pandemic seems to act as a smoke screen for Brexit and vice versa. I suspect that only when the dust settles on Covid19 and people start travelling & working in the EU will they start to understand the repercussions, and then there's gonna be a sh!tstorm. We should be marching and protesting right outside the House Of Commons. So I think this will get sorted, but not for a while and not without a massive effort, maybe under a new government. I think that you are quite right there. Personally, I don't think that the current agreement is going to be at all viable for the UK going forward. It is one thing to appeal to certain sections of the electorate with a hardline stance at the moment, but that’s not going to win elections once the economy starts failing and people are losing jobs. Especially when there is no longer a pandemic to blame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfretrock Posted January 29, 2021 Share Posted January 29, 2021 23 hours ago, NickD said: ... a typical party line yes man... Are there any other sort? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan63 Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 There's a invite to submit views Tell MPs about your views on changes to work and travel rules for UK touring professionals and artists in the EU by completing this short survey: https://www.smartsurvey.co.uk/s/MJY6SU/ Please respond by Wednesday 3 February Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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