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NBD Hofner 185 (resto thread)

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34 minutes ago, Grahambythesea said:

It certainly different. Perhaps a little more Italian than German?

I know what you mean, it's got that Eko kind of vibe. But it's definitely a Hofner thing. Hofner weren't being shy with some of their solid bodies at this time, all sorts of patterned vinyl coverings and pearl or sparkle plates. Even these fret inlays must have been pretty radical at the time, white pearl/tort/white pearl stripes. 

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It's OK not to like it though. 

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I agree. 

The odd thing is, I don't really like pearloid at all. I think it's a bit tacky. I never had pearloid on any bass up until last year, even removing the factory fitted pearloid plates and making plain ones. 

I'd always said the only bass that pearloid suits is a Hofner, then bought a Club, removed the pearloid plate and made a plain one. 

I don't like red or pearloid, so then put a bitsa together last year, painted it red and made a cream pearloid plate for it. 

Now look where I am. I actually like that this is a bit tacky, kind of kitsch. 

It's a funny old place, my head. 😁

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Well, I just can't decide on pickup placement so let's hear some thoughts. I know ultimately it's up to me but where's the fun in that discussion?

I've got a choice of three places essentially, obviously anywhere inbetween these is fine but let's narrow it down to three for ease. 

The background, this bass' pickups should be at both extremes between neck and bridge. I have a 4005 and a Club with this pickup arrangement, the Club fully hollow, the 4005 has a centre block so let's say more like a solid, on both the bridge pickup solo'd is too thin sounding for my liking.

We all know for sitting in the mix a P is king. I also do like to use a pickup as a thumb rest to pluck roughly in the centre of this area, edging towards the bridge for a touch more tension. 

Given that info, I've taken three pictures of the bridge pickup placed in roughly the P, MM and Hofner positions, the neck one will be where it should be. 

My dilemma is that I feel the pickup should go in the Hofner position, but I have that on two other basses and it's not ideal. Should I put it in the P position so hopefully I'll get that kind of mid punch (also a little like the violin 'cavern' placement), or compromise with it in the middle of those two choices in the MM position.

As so much of this bass isn't original I don't feel bad about moving the placement as it's not a proper restoration that'll be worth anything, but should I just keep it as it should at the expense of possibly sounding better? 

Bored yet? 😁

Here's the pictures. 

 

Hofner position. 

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Musicman position. 

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Precision position. 

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Definitely MM position - looks the best, will give better sound than the original position while retaining enough of a difference to the P.

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I concur. MM definitely the way to go. I know exactly what you mean about the stock bridge position being thin and weedy, my Artist bass is the same. It may as well not be there.

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@Pea Turgh @Rich, thanks for your thoughts. I'll see if there's any other views before I offer mine so as not to sway it one way or another. 🙂👍

 

What, who's over thinking this? 😄

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Put three pickups on it. Then you get the classic Höfner arrangement as well as one in the P-bass position

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49 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

Put three pickups on it. Then you get the classic Höfner arrangement as well as one in the P-bass position

I did consider that but it was partly about whether to keep the look as it should be, as well as how it sounds.

If I put a middle pickup in, then as I'd have already changed the look I wouldn't bother with the bridge pickup, as it's not ideal sound wise and it just over complicates things. As it stands with two pickups I'll have 24 different combinations, not including the tone controls and volume blending. A third pickup is too much and the tones will just overlap, kind off. A humbucker right at the bridge might give a similar depth tone to a single coil in the MM position. Obviously not the same but a thin sounding humbucker vs a fatter sounding single coil.

 

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